The A.I. Data Center Push That Wasn't
What Next3 Aug 2025

The A.I. Data Center Push That Wasn't

OpenAI’s Sam Altman, flanked by President Trump and Softbank’s Masayoshi Son, announced a hugely ambitious investment in data centers across America to support all the artificial intelligence we’re going to be using. Months in, the project has been scaled back to a single, power-hungry data center in Ohio.


Guest: Berber Jin, reporter covering A.I. for the Wall Street Journal


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Why Tech Lays Women Off First

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