220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

220. Theory of Enchantment | Chloé Valdary

As an alternative for those who would rather listen ad-free, sign up for a premium subscription to receive the following: *All JBP Podcast episodes ad-free *Monthly Ask-Me-Anything episodes (and the ability to ask questions) *Presale access to events *Premium, detailed show notes for future episodes Sign up here: https://jordanbpeterson.supercast.com This episode was recorded on September 15th, 2021. Chloé Valdary and I discuss The Theory of Enchantment, her personal brand of compassionate anti-racism. Chloé has been featured in Psychology Today and the NY Times. Her work with Theory of Enchantment attempts to bring compassion to diversity training and fight bigotry with love. We covered a range of topics surrounding her practice, structural racism in the US, the civil rights movement, the best way to criticize one another, the power of Truth, white fragility, and what one could expect from her (rather unique) diversity seminars. Find more from Chloé @cvaldary https://twitter.com/cvaldary & check out her program at https://theoryofenchantment.com -- Get started with a 10% discount at magbreakthrough.com/jbp when using promo code "jbp10." If it's not for you, there's a one-year money-back guarantee. _______________ Timestamps _______________ [00:00] Intro [00:30] Chloé’s background [01:52] Why did Chloé want to talk? [02:53] Reading Dr. Peterson’s Maps of Meaning in a lockdown [03:38] What is the goal or focus behind Valdary's work? [04:05] “Supremacist thinking occurs when a human being experiences... some type of deep insecurity within themselves" - Chloé Valdary [05:08] Jordan’s list of questions through Chloé's looking glass [05:49] Sources of racism [12:36] “There are problems money doesn't solve. It would be lovely if [that] produced full security in every aspect, but it doesn't" - Jordan Peterson [12:57] Working with corporations on DEIS [16:55] Debating the validity of lived experience [17:11] “Are you an unquestionable authority on the nature of your lived experience? The answer is yes and no" - JP [21:23] “[Race] certainly isn’t the best way to conceptualize diversity” - JP [23:46] Examining the pathos behind two great leaders in the civil rights movement: Dr. Martin Luther King & Malcolm X [27:34] Chloé’s experience as a teacher [33:06] Learning to appreciate complexity in both the individual and the diverse [36:17] “Raising everyone’s material standards… is ultimately insufficient" - JP [36:34] Seeing people as political abstractions [38:14] Alienation, diversity training, and rural America [44:28] “There are arbitrary pre-conditions to our existence that we didn't choose to deal with" - JP [48:25] How to uplift (never destructive) criticism [51:07] Variance in coping mechanisms [54:44] Everyone is starving for (words of) encouragement [57:07] Rooting everything in love and compassion. Where do those guidelines come from? [01:03:45] Wonder Woman, Power, & Truth [01:04:52] The human capacity to destroy the planet [01:09:29] I'm convinced that there is nothing more powerful than truth in the word." - JP [01:17:31] “Part of the problem in the West is this false understanding of meaning as derived from propositions when it is, in fact, participatory ways of knowing that give rise to propositions in the first place" - Chloé Valdary [01:18:48] The meaning of the word ‘enchantment’ [01:26:23] “The objective of ToE is to bring people back to this relational way of being and to be in balance with their own complexity" - Chloé Valdary [01:26:59] What Chloé does at a ToE seminar [01:32:16] “People have access to the truth… [regardless of] socioeconomic standing" - JP Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Adam and Eve: Self-Consciousness, Evil, and Death

Adam and Eve: Self-Consciousness, Evil, and Death

Lecture 4 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories lecture series I turned my attention in this lecture to the older of the two creation accounts in Genesis: the story of Adam and Eve. In its few short paragraphs, it covers: the emergence of human self-consciousness; mankind's attendant realization of vulnerability, mortality, and death; the origin of the capacity for willful evil, as the ability to exploit that newly-realized vulnerability. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1 Jul 20172h 41min

God and the Hierarchy of Authority

God and the Hierarchy of Authority

Lecture 3 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series at the Isabel Bader Theatre in Toronto. Although I thought I might get to Genesis II in this third lecture, and begin talking about Adam & Eve, it didn't turn out that way. There was more to be said about the idea of God as creator (with the Word as the process underlying the act of creation). I didn't mind, because it is very important to get God and the Creation of the Universe right before moving on :) . Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Jun 20172h 49min

Ideology, Logos & Belief

Ideology, Logos & Belief

Two-part interview with Transliminal Media's Jordan Levine, April 2017, in Vancouver, Canada. Sequel to the hit 2015 interview 'Religion, Myth, Science, Truth': https://youtu.be/07Ys4tQPRis Please support Transliminal Media on Patreon** | https://www.patreon.com/transliminal Links Transliminal Media Patreon Transliminal Media YouTube Channel Self Authoring Programs Dr Peterson's Patreon Support Page Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

7 Jun 20172h 54min

Genesis - Chaos and Order

Genesis - Chaos and Order

Lecture 2 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories. In this lecture, I present Genesis 1, which presents the idea that a pre-existent cognitive structure (God the Father) uses the Logos, the Christian Word, the second Person of the Trinity, to generate habitable order out of precosmogonic chaos at the beginning of time. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

29 Mai 20172h 39min

Introduction to the Idea of God

Introduction to the Idea of God

Lecture 1 in my Psychological Significance of the Biblical Stories series from May 16th at Isabel Bader Theatre in Toronto. In this lecture, I describe what I consider to be the idea of God, which is at least partly the notion of sovereignty and power, divorced from any concrete sovereign or particular, individual person of power. I also suggest that God, as Father, is something akin to the spirit or pattern inherent in the human hierarchy of authority, which is based in turn on the dominance hierarchies Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

23 Mai 20172h 46min

Dr Martin Daly

Dr Martin Daly

I'm speaking with Dr. Martin Daly, a professor at McMaster University in Hamilton, Ontario, a pioneer in the field of evolutionary psychology, and author of Killing the Competition . Dr. Daly has determined that economic inequality and male on male homicide rates are strongly linked, and makes a causal argument for why this is the case, attributing it to status competition under stressful conditions. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

11 Mai 20172h 6min

An Incendiary Discussion

An Incendiary Discussion

A few weeks ago, Dr. Oren Amitay, who has been defending me in online discussions hosted by the Ontario Psychological Association, invited me to address his psychology class (to which other students were invited). We discussed freedom of speech, ideological possession, unconscious bias and the Implicit Association test, and other issues germane to psychology and the modern world. Apologies for the audio quality, it was cleaned up as best we could, it gets better throughout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

1 Mai 20171h 56min

How To Change The World

How To Change The World

A Message to Millenials: How to Change the World -- Properly. Young people want, rightly, to change the world. But how might this be properly done? Dr Jonathan Haidt recently contrasted Truth University with Social Justice University. Social Justice U has as its advantage the call to social transformation. In this video, I outline why Truth is the proper route to societal improvement -- and why that starts with the individual. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

20 Apr 201756min

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