The Smerconish Podcast18 Aug 2025

Reading Trump & Putin Like a Book – A Body Language Deep Dive

In this eye-opening episode, Michael Smerconish sits down with body language expert Chris Ulrich, founder of CU in the Moment, to analyze the high-stakes optics of the recent Trump-Putin meeting in Anchorage. What did the red carpet, the handshake, the subtle smirks, and even the way the leaders stood and sat reveal about power, control, and unspoken dynamics?

Ulrich, a seasoned consultant in nonverbal communication and behavioral dynamics, breaks down the symbolism and stagecraft that played out between the two leaders. He explains why Trump’s shoulder pat, Putin’s quickened pace, and Trump’s open-palm gesture weren't just random choices—they were calculated or habitual moves loaded with meaning.

From the arrival choreography to the final moments of the press conference, Ulrich reads into every gesture, clap, steeple, and foot position, revealing how physical behavior can either project dominance or deference—and how both Trump and Putin used those tools to their advantage.

Michael and Chris also explore whether these behaviors are intentional or instinctive, what Trump might have done differently had he sought expert coaching beforehand, and how viewers at home can sharpen their own observation skills to spot influence, tension, and strategy through body language alone.

Whether you're politically engaged, fascinated by leadership dynamics, or curious about the unspoken psychology behind international relations, this episode offers a rare decoding of political theater at the highest level.

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