144. Never Laugh at Live Dragons – The Hobbit #29

Join our Free Discord Channel! When Tolkien set out to rewrite The Hobbit in 1960, much was lost, but much was gained… Do the gains outweigh the losses? We review his rewritten 1st chapter of The Hobbit, newly title “A Well-Planned Party”. We discuss: * Fairy Rabbit’s are NOT Hobbits… but AI can still imagine them. * Fairy Rabbit #1 * Fairy Rabbit #2 * Fairy Rabbit #3 * Fairy Rabbit #4 * Fairy Rabbit #5 * Fairy Rabbit #6 * Tolkien’s grammatical error that created an entirely new word. * The overall tonal and stylistic changes in the 1960 rewrite. * The specific passages that were changes for the worse. * The specifics and details Tolkien added to bring it closer to Lord of the Rings. * Our final thoughts on whether we prefer the original Hobbit or Tolkien’s 1960 rewrite. In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about: * What did Peter Jackson add to The Hobbit movie that was actually GOOD. * Dragons with 2 legs vs dragons with 4 legs. * Beorn in the battle of the 5 armies and a certain unnecessary scene. BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links The Annotated Hobbit The History of The Hobbit Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The History of The Hobbit The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

23 Jul 20241h 1min

Join our Free Discord Channel! Bilbo loses the comfort of his home and finds that the Tookish side of his mind is starting to overcome the Baggins side We discuss: * The three things that pushed Bilbo over onto the Took side of his personality. * How the Dwarven song of the Misty Mountain helps us glimpse the greater world of Middle-earth that Tolkien hadn’t integrated into The Hobbit yet. * Golf! (and Tolkien’s philological jest) * How Tolkien took the 3 things that defined him and created the Hobbit from it. In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about: * Did Tolkien explicitly establish Middle-earth as part of our own Earth’s past anywhere outside of The Hobbit? * How little Tolkien changed The Hobbit from the earliest manuscript he wrote (that we know of). BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Michael Drout’s Discussion on The Hobbit The Annotated Hobbit The History of The Hobbit Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The History of The Hobbit The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

16 Jul 202453min

Join our Free Discord Channel! As we get into the first chapter of The Hobbit, we discuss how coming at The Hobbit from a how does this fit into the Middle-earth cosmology perspective is probably not the best start. We discuss: * How The Hobbit wasn’t really in Middle-earth in the beginning. * How “Good Morning” is used so expertly by tolkien * How Bilbo’s Tookish side is starting to take over * The BEST cover art for any edition of The Hobbit (see link below) In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about: * Why Gimli doesn’t have an instrument. * How Tolkien described Hobbit ears. BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links The Annotated Hobbit The BEST Hobbit Cover EVER The History of The Hobbit Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The History of The Hobbit The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

9 Jul 202455min

Join our Free Discord Channel! This week we begin our read through of The Hobbit–but we’re focusing first on how Tolkien actually evolved the Hobbit from his first edition in 1937 to a revised edition that’s more in line with The Lord of the Rings in 1951 to an abandoned rewrite in 1960. We discuss: * The History of The Hobbit — based on his recollection, and how it differs from what his children remember. * The style differences in the 3 versions. * The story differences (particularly with Gollum) * How Tolkien’s creative processes and approach might have shifted in the 15 years between publishing the Hobbit and publishing The Lord of the Rings. In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about: * Parallels between The Hobbit and The King of Elfland * Gollums entire personality changed in the 1951 rewrite * Was Tolkien thinking about the themes and values he wanted in the hobbit when he was just telling it to his kids. * Is it better to read The Hobbit 1st, or The Lord of the Rings 1st? * Do you feel like less of a Tolkien fan if you just can’t get into all the notes and details in books like The Histories of Middle-earth? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links The History of The Hobbit Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The History of The Hobbit The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

25 Jun 202449min

Join our Free Discord Channel! You know that the film The War of the Rohirrim will be released later this year, right?  Well, here is Tolkien’s story of Helm Hammerhand, as HE told it.  Michael and Jonathan look at the history of Rohan and the true story of Helm Hammerhand, not the story retold for Modern Audiences we’ll be getting later this year In our extended episode (available for our members) we talk about: * Why the name “Hera” is important? * Why Shieldmaidens are NOT Tolkien-inspired. * Why Peter Jackson SHOULDN’T be involved in Tolkien anymore. * Our upcoming read-through of The Hobbit! BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

18 Jun 202450min

Join our Discord Channel! Join our Discord Community (for free)! 👉 https://discord.gg/fRATdAqEFr On what I just realized was our 2 year anniversary, we brought our original amigo, Dan Coats, back to talk about Tom Bombadil, The Rings of Power, The Hunt for Gollum, and more! In our extended episode (available for our members — but this week everybody gets it!) we talk about: * Does Dan miss the podcast? * The Silmarillion or On Fairy Stories — which did he get more out of? * The Hobbit and The Children of Hurin are next! * Will Dan join us for reviewing The Rings of Power? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

4 Jun 20240s

Join our Discord Channel! Here’s one more episode in our series of interviews from the December 2, 2003 roundtable discussions (check them all out at https://www.theonering.com/interviews-with-the-cast-and-crew-of-lord-of-the-rings). In addition to the interview we discuss the upcoming film “Fellowship: Tolkien and Lewis” now in production at Angel Studios. This time we sat with Pippin and Merry, and found out: What their relationship was like wth Peter Jackson What did it take to get through all those years of moviemaking? Where is THEIR shire? 🙄 How did working on Lord of the Rings change them? Become a member at https://theonering.com/members to hear us: Examine AI manipulated images of Tom Bombadil (thanks to our member Fra for those!) BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. Click here! 🔗 Episode Links Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

29 Mai 202433min

Join our Discord Channel! The films brought us a dark and evil Bree — but Tolkien calls it “friendly” and “familiar”! And Barliman Butterbur has a simple cameo. And then nearly the entire “Strider” chapter is removed–we have no real information on him by the time the Hobbits leave Bree with him in the films! Become a member at https://theonering.com/members or https://theonering.com/patreon to hear our thoughts on: * The missed opportunity of Barliman Butterbur’s Brewery * Nob’s a Hobbit… but is Bob?! * Merry survived the black breath in Bree WITHOUT athelas… how? * What’s Celebrimbor’s fate in The Rings of Power? BECOME A MEMBER! Get access to the extended edition of this podcast, our private Discord chat, and live chats. You can also join for $5 a month on Patreon 🔗 Episode Links Glass Hammer’s Middle-earth Album Join our Discord Community (for free) Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Get the Extended Podcast Become a Patreon Member Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Fall of Gondolin The Children of Hurin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat

21 Mai 202446min