The C.D.C.’s Vaccine Chief on Why Quitting Was His Only Option
The Daily29 Aug

The C.D.C.’s Vaccine Chief on Why Quitting Was His Only Option

Over the past 24 hours, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has been plunged into turmoil.

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. tried to fire the agency’s director, Susan Monarez, igniting a standoff that prompted three other senior officials to resign.

One of those officials, Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, explains why he chose to take a stand.

Guest: Dr. Demetre Daskalakis, a former director at the C.D.C.

Background reading:

  • The Covid-19 pandemic made the C.D.C. a frequent target of lawmakers and segments of the general public.
  • Mr. Kennedy’s move to dismiss Dr. Monarez came after she declined to fire agency leaders or to accept all recommendations from a vaccine advisory panel, according to people with knowledge of the events.

For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.

Photo: Alyssa Pointer/Reuters

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Friday, Apr. 6, 2018

Friday, Apr. 6, 2018

On local TV stations across the United States, news anchors have been delivering the exact same message to their viewers. “Our greatest responsibility,” they begin by saying, “is to serve our communities.” But what they are being forced to say next has left many questioning whom those stations are really being asked to serve. Guests: Sydney Ember, a New York Times business reporter who covers print and digital media; Aaron Weiss, who worked several years ago as a news director for Sinclair in Sioux City, Iowa. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

6 Apr 201824min

Thursday, Apr. 5, 2018

Thursday, Apr. 5, 2018

Many farmers across the Midwest voted for Donald J. Trump in the 2016 election but hoped he would never follow through on his threats to impose tariffs on China. They feared that they would suffer if China imposed its own tariffs as payback. Now, Beijing has done just that, proposing tariffs on 106 types of American goods — including soybeans, corn and pork — in retaliation for President Trump’s plans to penalize Chinese trade practices. Guest: Eldon Gould, a farmer in Illinois who voted for President Trump. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

5 Apr 201818min

Wednesday, Apr. 4, 2018

Wednesday, Apr. 4, 2018

It started with a report on Fox News, and ended with calls for United States troops at the border with Mexico. We look at how President Trump’s approach to immigration transformed over just 72 hours. Guest: Julie Hirschfeld Davis, who covers the White House for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

4 Apr 201821min

Tuesday, Apr. 3, 2018

Tuesday, Apr. 3, 2018

The Second Amendment is just 27 words long. But those 27 words are among the most cryptic and divisive in the United States Constitution — and they are at the heart of one of the most contentious debates in American politics. Why is the Supreme Court so reluctant to clarify them? Guest: Adam Liptak, who covers the Supreme Court for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

3 Apr 201822min

Monday, Apr. 2, 2018

Monday, Apr. 2, 2018

President Trump’s son-in-law wants to overhaul the prison system. The president’s attorney general bitterly opposes such a move. That has set the scene for a highly personal battle inside the White House. Guest: Matt Apuzzo, a New York Times reporter based in Washington. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

2 Apr 201819min

Friday, March 30, 2018

Friday, March 30, 2018

Behind the landmark Supreme Court ruling of Brown v. Board of Education was a girl named Linda Brown, whose story led to states being ordered to desegregate schools, mostly against their will. Ms. Brown died on Sunday. Who was she, and what has changed in the 64 years since the case was decided? Guest: Nikole Hannah-Jones, an investigative reporter covering race and civil rights for The New York Times Magazine. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

30 Mar 201827min

Thursday, March 29, 2018

Thursday, March 29, 2018

As the special counsel built his case against Michael T. Flynn and Paul Manafort, pressure was mounting for the men to to cooperate with the Russia inquiry. Then a lawyer for President Trump came to them with an idea: What if the president were to pardon his former advisers? Guest: Michael S. Schmidt, who has been covering the Russia investigation for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

29 Mar 201819min

Wednesday, March 28, 2018

Wednesday, March 28, 2018

President Trump has chosen John R. Bolton to be his new national security adviser. In 2005, a Republican-controlled Senate committee refused to confirm Mr. Bolton as President George W. Bush’s ambassador to the United Nations. We look back at those confirmation hearings, which portrayed Mr. Bolton as a threat to national security. Guest: Elizabeth Williamson, who writes about Washington in the Trump era for The New York Times. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

28 Mar 201823min

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