E133: The secrets of shadow banking
The Laundry4 Sep 2025

E133: The secrets of shadow banking

Are you ready to step into a parallel world?


It’s a bizarre world where no money moves – but currency changes hands between criminals, state-backed hackers, and drug cartels.


It’s one of the biggest threats in financial crime today – and yet remains massively under–researched and misunderstood.


Our expert host, Marit Rødevand, is joined by Ari Redbord, Global Head of Policy at TRM Labs, to reveals: the secrets of shadow banking!


The pair discuss: the size and scale of shadow banking today, the consequences of this parallel financial system, and what can be done to shut it down.


Producer: Matthew Dunne-Miles

Editor: Dominic Delargy

Engineer: Nicholas Thon


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The Laundry podcast explores the complex world of financial crime, anti-money laundering (AML), compliance, sanctions, and global financial regulation.


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E171: How do we put the "human" back into AI processes in fincrime?

E171: How do we put the "human" back into AI processes in fincrime?

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E170: What does the board need to know about AML?

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E169: Is AMLA *really* on track?

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