Factually! with Adam Conover10 Sep 2025

Genocide Scholar: I Know It When I See It, with Omer Bartov

The Palestinian people are being killed en masse, they are being starved, and many are dying of preventable disease. More and more people are beginning to understand that it’s Israel’s intention to eliminate the entire Palestinian population of Gaza. Yet as untold thousands are dying, there are still people who insist that this is not “genocide” despite every bit of evidence to the contrary. This week, Adam speaks with Omer Bartov, a professor of holocaust and genocide studies at Brown University, about the genocide in Gaza, why so many people are reticent to label it as such, and how the world is looking at this moment.

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