The Discourse | TikTok Ban: The Final Loop?
What Next19 Sep 2025

The Discourse | TikTok Ban: The Final Loop?

TikTok—which was supposed to be banned again on Wednesday but, again, isn’t—may be legal once more. The Trump administration says it’s meeting with Xi Jinping Friday to finalize the agreement, which may involve—get this—a wealthy Trump-supporting tech mogul.


Guest: Nitish Pahwa, staff writer for business and tech at Slate.


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