What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Discourse | TikTok Ban: The Final Loop?
What Next19 Sep 2025

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Discourse | TikTok Ban: The Final Loop?

TikTok—which was supposed to be banned again on Wednesday but, again, isn’t—may be legal once more. The Trump administration says it’s meeting with Xi Jinping Friday to finalize the agreement, which may involve—get this—a wealthy Trump-supporting tech mogul.


Guest: Nitish Pahwa, staff writer for business and tech at Slate.


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What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - So ... Is TikTok Banned?

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - So ... Is TikTok Banned?

The TikTok ban that has been floating around Washington since the last administration has been signed into law. What does that mean for users, creators and the court battles ahead?Guest: Louise Matsakis, reporter covering tech and China.Dillon White, TikToker under the handle @dadchatsWant more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

26 Apr 202419min

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - How Trump Found His Lawyer

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - How Trump Found His Lawyer

Who is Todd Blanche, Donald Trump’s attorney in the hush-money trial, and how did he end up representing the former president? Guest: Andrew Rice, features writer for New York Magazine. He’s also the author of The Year That Broke America. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

25 Apr 202424min

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Columbia Calls the Cops

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Columbia Calls the Cops

Protests at Columbia University have become a talking point across national media, but does the situation on campus actually resemble the one in the press? Guest: Aymann Ismail, Slate staff writer.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

24 Apr 202426min

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Your Right to Protest? Not the Supreme Court’s Problem.

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Your Right to Protest? Not the Supreme Court’s Problem.

The constitutional right to protest is right there in the First Amendment. So when the Fifth Circuit Court threatened this right across three states, why didn’t the Supreme Court take up the case?Guest: Ian Milhiser, senior correspondent for Vox.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

23 Apr 202419min

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - What the WNBA Salary Debate Misses

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - What the WNBA Salary Debate Misses

With all eyes on the WNBA as Caitlin Clark was drafted, many were surprised at the star player’s new salary, and how it paled in comparison to that of an NBA rookie. What would it take to address this disparity? Guest: Lindsay Gibbs, author and founder of Power Plays, “a no-BS newsletter about women’s sports” and co-host of the Burn It All Down podcast.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

22 Apr 202424min

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Internet Archive Endangered

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - The Internet Archive Endangered

From the Wayback Machine to the mass-digitization of the history of Aruba, the Internet Archive is a non-profit doing valuable work. But some of its other projects—a pandemic-era lending library and the ongoing digitalization of 78 rpm records—have led to lawsuits now threatening the future of this repository of the past. Guest: Kate Knibbs, senior writer at Wired.Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

21 Apr 202419min

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - What’s Driving Tesla’s Layoffs?

What Next: TBD | Tech, power, and the future - What’s Driving Tesla’s Layoffs?

Tesla’s market cap has dropped. The company had its biggest round of layoffs ever. The Cybertruck doesn’t seem to be taking off. And Elon’s posting through it. Is Tesla in serious trouble?Guest: Dana Hull, Bloomberg reporter and contributor to the podcast Elon, Inc.  Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

19 Apr 202419min

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Is It Too Late to Escape “Forever Chemicals”?

What Next | Daily News and Analysis - Is It Too Late to Escape “Forever Chemicals”?

Man-made per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, known as PFAS, are found in all sorts of industrial and consumer products, including carpets, rain jackets, and makeup. They’re also in our drinking water—and in our blood.The EPA has recently announced plans to regulate the amount of certain PFAS in our water supply. But will these rules do enough to control chemicals for which there is no safe level of exposure?Guest: Esmé E. Deprez, independent investigative journalist.Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen.Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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