The Winston Marshall Show20 Sep 2025

Batya Ungar-Sargon - “Everything they predicted was 100% wrong!” The Tariff Revolution

Journalist and author Batya Ungar-Sargon joins The Winston Marshall Show for a hard-hitting conversation on Trump’s second term, America’s working class, and the fight to rebuild the middle of the country.

Ungar-Sargon breaks down Trump’s economic revolution — from tariffs and immigration controls to reindustrialisation and the push to restore American manufacturing. She explains how these policies are shifting the balance of power away from the elites and back towards ordinary workers, while corporate media and political insiders try to discredit them.

They discuss the fentanyl crisis, China’s role in hollowing out American industry, and why Trump’s fight over tariffs in the Supreme Court could redefine U.S. economic sovereignty. Batya warns that without bold changes, the American dream risks collapsing for an entire generation.

All this — tariffs, Trump’s revolution, the fentanyl epidemic, immigration, and the battle to save America’s working class…

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Chapters

0:00 Introduction

02:21 Trump’s Second Term And His Tariffs

04:58 Economic Elites' Predictions vs. Reality

06:32 Trump's Multifaceted Goals with Tariffs

11:40 Impact of Tariffs on Illegal Immigration and Wages

12:36 Reindustrialization and Economic Policy

49:14 AI and Robotics in the Workforce

53:08 Intel and State Ownership

55:54 Musk and the MAGA Right Divergence

1:00:45 Final Thoughts

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