Ayahuasca Podcast with Sam Believ25 Sep 2025

Nazis on Drugs, CIA LSD & The Psychedelic Liberation — with Norman Ohler

In this episode of Ayahuasca Podcast host Sam Believ (founder of www.lawayra.com) has a conversation with Norman Ohler, investigative author and storyteller known for his bestselling books Blitzed and Tripped. Norman’s work explores the hidden influence of drugs in history — from methamphetamine use in Nazi Germany to the political suppression of psychedelics — and challenges how we think about drugs and society.

We touch upon topics of:

00:36 – Norman’s personal journey into investigating drugs and hidden histories
01:28 – Nazi Germany’s use of methamphetamine and Hitler’s daily drug injections
07:30 – Could Hitler on ayahuasca have changed history?
09:36 – The untold origins of LSD and Nazi/CIA “truth drug” experiments
18:17 – Norman’s book Tripped, dementia research, and microdosing LSD with his parents
22:01 – Brain mapping studies with ayahuasca and early results from Sam’s retreat
25:08 – Capitalism, government control, and why psychedelics remain illegal
29:01 – Vision for an egalitarian, borderless, AI-supported global society
36:21 – Capitalism vs. spirituality and building new economic models with blockchain/AI
42:01 – How psychedelics foster empathy, healing, and potential planetary change
49:18 – Norman’s political vision and plan to run for German Chancellor
53:39 – Ancient ritual use of psychoactive plants and why prohibition is anti-human

If you would like to attend one of our Ayahuasca retreats go to www.lawayra.com.

Find more about Norman Ohler at substack

https://stonedsapiens.substack.com/

And check out his books Blitzed and Tripped.

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