With The Perrys29 Sep 2025

Neither Blue Nor Red: Being a Disciple in a Culture War

Social media has been a contentious place after the murder of Charlie Kirk, and the public mourning of his death has felt confusing and concerning for many people. How should we as Christ followers respond in such a polarizing time? In this honest conversation, Jackie and Preston sit down with Justin Giboney, cofounder and president of the AND Campaign, to process through what happens in our hearts – and in the church – when tragedy plays out in the public square. Why do we turn to social media to have our feelings validated? Are we experiencing a true gospel revival or a reawakening of ideological conservatism? And how can we move out of this culture war to have constructive and edifying conversations, not as members of one political party or another but as Christ followers? Connect with JustinInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/justinegiboney/ and https://www.instagram.com/andcampaign/ Resources: The AND Campaign: https://www.andcampaign.org/ Justin’s new book – Don't Let Nobody Turn You Around How the Black Church's Public Witness Leads Us out of the Culture War https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Let-Nobody-Turn-Around/dp/1514008424 Theologian Luigi Giussani Subscribe to the Perrys' newsletter: https://withtheperrys.myflodesk.com/zhfus4jx1s Join Preston's discipleship community for men: https://www.patreon.com/PrestonPerry/membership To support the work of the Perrys, donate via PayPal: https://paypal.me/withtheperrys Shop BOLD Apparel: boldapparel.shop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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