593: Phoebe Gates: Building an AI Fashion Startup Backed by Kris Jenner & Sara Blakely

593: Phoebe Gates: Building an AI Fashion Startup Backed by Kris Jenner & Sara Blakely

Phoebe Gates went from failed prototypes in her Stanford dorm room to building one of the fastest growing fashion-tech startups in the world. In this interview, the co-founder of AI shopping app Phia shares how she and her co-founder Sophia Kianni scaled from 200 early users to half a million downloads, raised $9M from investors like Kleiner Perkins, Kris Jenner, and Sara Blakely, and turned their vision into a personal AI shopping assistant trusted by a new generation of consumers. From building in public and hacking growth with feedback loops to pitching high-profile investors and navigating privilege, Phoebe breaks down the exact strategies that fueled her rapid rise as a young founder. What you’ll learn from this interview: • How Phoebe went from 50+ failed ideas to finding product-market fit in fashion-tech • The grassroots tactics she used to get her first 200 users • Why feedback loops and “pizza nights” became their biggest growth hack • How she pitched and secured investors like Kleiner Perkins, Kris Jenner, and Sara Blakely • The mindset shift that helped her see failure as experimentation • Why building in public became an unfair advantage for distribution and community • How to leverage AI and automation as a young founder to scale faster By the end of this interview, you’ll walk away with a playbook for finding your idea, validating it with real users, and scaling it into a fast-growth business—so you can apply the same principles to your own entrepreneurial journey. You can download the Phia app here SAVE 50% ON OMNISEND FOR 3 MONTHS Get 50% off your first 3 months of email and SMS marketing with Omnisend with the code FOUNDR50. Just head to https://your.omnisend.com/foundr to get started. HOW WE CAN HELP YOU SCALE YOUR BUSINESS FASTER Learn directly from 7, 8 & 9-figure founders inside Foundr+ Start your $1 trial → https://www.foundr.com/startdollartrial PREFER A CUSTOM ROADMAP AND 1-ON-1 COACHING? → Starting from scratch? Apply here → https://foundr.com/pages/coaching-start-application → Already have a store? Apply here → https://foundr.com/pages/coaching-growth-application CONNECT WITH NATHAN CHAN Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/nathanchan LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanhchan/ CONNECT WITH PHOEBE GATES Website → https://phia.com/ Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/phoebegates/ LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/phoebe-gates-82a60b296/ FOLLOW FOUNDR FOR MORE BUSINESS GROWTH STRATEGIES YouTube → https://bit.ly/2uyvzdt Website → https://www.foundr.com Instagram → https://www.instagram.com/foundr/ Facebook → https://www.facebook.com/foundr Twitter → https://www.twitter.com/foundr LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/company/foundr/ Podcast → https://www.foundr.com/podcast

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639: From $60K in Debt to ICONIC $100M Fashion Label | Rebecca Minkoff

639: From $60K in Debt to ICONIC $100M Fashion Label | Rebecca Minkoff

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638: (Solo) How I'd Launch an Ecom Brand in 2026 with $10K and Zero Followers

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637: How One Decision Separates a $1 Million Business From a $250 Million One | Leila Hormozi

637: How One Decision Separates a $1 Million Business From a $250 Million One | Leila Hormozi

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636: (Solo) The Facebook Ads Metrics That Actually Matter When Scaling

636: (Solo) The Facebook Ads Metrics That Actually Matter When Scaling

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635: The Meta Ads System Working in 2026 | Nick Shackelford

635: The Meta Ads System Working in 2026 | Nick Shackelford

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634: (Solo) My Current AI Stack (and How It’s Helping Us Move 10x Faster at Foundr)

634: (Solo) My Current AI Stack (and How It’s Helping Us Move 10x Faster at Foundr)

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