Pricing Table Topics: 9 of Clubs – Buyers on a Relationship Journey want to Learn from You

Possibly my single favorite KPI in the world of pricing is average selling price. Are we managing average selling price per product, average selling price overall across the portfolio. If you have a single product that has a price on it and you can monitor that average selling price, that gives you a great indication of what's going on in your marketplace, how well we're selling value. If you can monitor average selling price by salesperson, now we're getting a great indicator of which salespeople do a good job at selling value and which ones don't. If you can't manage average selling price, maybe you're going to have an average deal size. How big are the opportunities that we're facing, that we're being able to bid on? And which ones of those are we winning or not? But my recommendation, find some KPI, maybe two or three, that are a great indicator of how well our customers are perceiving our value, which means their willingness to pay and how well our salespeople are selling value. Track them over time. Watch for the anomalies. Watch for the changes. And use those as indicators to see if you can figure out what's going on in your marketplace. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from the book, Selling Value, which I wrote to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me mark@impactpricing.com. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving:  Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

17 Aug 20222min

Gabriel Dabi-Schwebel is the Founder and CEO of SalesDeck, an online sales communication tool. He is also the Founder and CEO of 1min30, a French inbound marketing agency. He is an entrepreneur, speaker, and author of eight marketing and sales methodologies books. Gab hosts the Virtual Selling podcast. In this episode, Gabriel talks about service packaging as he shares how they do it in his marketing company, 1min30.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Find out how to get your product packaging and pricing right Learn good, better, best service packaging through the way a marketing company does it Understand why pricing is at the heart of entrepreneurship   “If you are in service, the idea of packaging what you sell is very important.” – Gabriel Dabi-Schwebel   Topics Covered: 01:29 – Growing up with French fonctionnaire parents while wanting to become an entrepreneur 02:19 – How Gabriel got into pricing; Gabriel realizes how important pricing is 04:36 – Talking about service packaging in line with his marketing company, 1min30 08:34 – The difference between the three price points 09:54 – Where he got the idea of his good, better, best strategy 10:36 – Did Gab learn how to have value conversations with clients? 12:06 – Gabriel’s pricing advice 14:51 – Pricing table topics: “Be strategic. Focus on lifetime value.”   Key Takeaways: “I think pricing is really at the heart of entrepreneurship, because at one time, you need to price what you do, what you sell, what you create, and it’s really a marketing aspect that is very interesting, because with pricing, you can make your revenue even bigger without working too much.” – Gabriel Dabi-Schwebel “It's really important to find the right price and to be sure that the price you choose is really the closest to what a customer is ready to pay and the ones that make you the more value and the more money in your pocket.” – Gabriel Dabi-Schwebel “Really thinking about lifetime value is really thinking about what is the price being acceptable by your customer and the value you bring him, and also the fact that you keep bringing value and keep in loyal to your product.” – Gabriel Dabi-Schwebel   People / Resources Mentioned: SalesDeck: https://salesdeck.io/ 1min30: https://www.1min30.com/ Acquisition Strategy Design: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/2377740324/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2 Blair Enns’ The Win Without Pitching Manifesto: https://www.winwithoutpitching.com/the-manifesto/   Connect with Gabriel Dabi-Schwebel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrields/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabriel-dabi-schwebel/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

15 Aug 202217min

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on July 6, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/a-good-case-for-cost-plus-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

12 Aug 20223min

Pricing decisions can always help us achieve our goals. We need to make sure we understand what those goals are. I would start with understanding what the corporate objectives are. Oftentimes those are things like we need to raise our average selling price. We need to gain more market share. We need to have more margin. Typically, these goals, these corporate goals, are established by our CEO and our executive team, and they're there to drive increased market capitalization. However, your product may have a different set of goals than what your corporate goal is. So, what is the goal of your product? The goal of your product may be to bring more people into the platform so that we then have more people we can sell upgrades to. That's a great goal. We need to understand that as we're setting our pricing. Your goal may be we need to generate more revenue, more profit, so that we can fund other projects. That's a great goal. We just need to know what our goals are. As we're making these pricing decisions. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from the book, Selling Value, which I wrote to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me mark@impactpricing.com. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

10 Aug 20221min

John Chisholm was a US lawyer. For 15 years, he's been in law firms, using value-based pricing, and now subscription pricing. John swims in the ocean every morning with his Speedo around his neck. Pricing for law firms or even major consultancy firms is not easy. Price your final client contracts too high, and you’ll lose some of your most high-value clients. Price them too low, and you’ll be forced to work too few staff to the bone to cut costs. In this episode, John shares how law firm should approach their pricing strategy.     Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover how to create a pricing revenue model that funds a thriving firm while generating real value for clients Learn how to make your law firm and consultancy clients understand the value of your service and the risks they are avoiding by hiring you compared to your competitors by communicating the value you provide Discover why a pricing expert is essential to the profitability of any law firm   “Just don't price your own work.” – John Chisholm    Topics Covered: 01:06 – How John got into pricing: His late father’s story in relation to legal service fees 03:06 – Doing timesheet free billing as a law firm in the 1970s to ‘80s 05:25 – The old law business model of billing by the hour 06:38 – How things led him to his aha moment in relation to the practice of pricing 10:37 – Changing the mindset around pricing: Possible or not? 15:48 – “The true indication of a really good professional is not so much the answers they give; it's the questions they ask” 19:24 – Having a value conversation around $500 vs. $270’s worth 22:15 – John’s pricing advice 23:31 – Pricing table topics: “Sunk costs don't matter to pricing or any business decision”   Key Takeaways: “Now it's very, very ingrained – the whole profession, I'm afraid. There has been a lot of movement, but they've been mainly in smaller, innovative firms. But the large firms, despite what they say, when you peel back the onion, the measurements, their rewards, their whole internal systems still work around time, and it's hard to change, and they're very successful.” – John Chisholm “I know I’ll get into trouble for saying this, but lawyers buying and selling to each other is not a great recipe for innovation or change or taking risk.” – John Chisholm “Those that perceive they have the most to lose will be the last to change, and that will be the big end of town worldwide.” – John Chisholm “I try and get the lawyers that I work with my clients to stop thinking like lawyers, because often, the solution is not a legal solution; it really isn't, or the objectives are not a legal solution. It may be that what we're going to do has legal input, and that's the skills that the lawyers have that someone else doesn't have. But it's turning the conversation on its head. It's asking the right questions. And I think the true indication of a really good professional is not so much the answers they give; it's the questions they ask.” – John Chisholm “I work more with my client lawyers focusing on what additional benefits can you give to clients, many of which don't cost anything to the law firm but add value to the client; the price just follows. I think also, if you can focus on increasing the client's profit, our profit will follow as a profession.” – John Chisholm “I think even though it might be for short term profitability, there's just so many good lawyers that just do underestimate the value that they're providing to their clients, and that's their fault, not their client's fault.” – John Chisholm   People / Resources Mentioned: Ron Baker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronbaker1/ VeraSage Institute: https://www.verasage.com/ John Chisholm Consulting: https://www.chisconsult.com/   Connect with John Chisholm: Email: john@chisconsult.com Website: https://www.chisconsult.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chisholmjohn/   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

8 Aug 202227min

This is an Impact Pricing Blog published on June 29, 2022, turned into an audio podcast so you can listen on the go. Read Full Article Here: https://impactpricing.com/blog/how-i-think-about-pricing/ If you have any feedback, definitely send it. You can reach us at mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact. Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

5 Aug 20223min

This one's really targeted at marketing people, product management. It turns out that we make fun of salespeople a lot because they offer discounts, they don't know how to sell value. But the question that I would ask is, what have you given them in terms of tools and knowledge and confidence that they can win deals at the prices that we think they should be winning at? We may have gone out and done a ton of analysis in the marketplace, we understand the value of our product, we understand how we compare to the competition, but have we shared that well with our salespeople? In my newest book, Selling Value, I describe something called a value table. And if you've created a value table, it simply documents where the value of your product really comes from. And if you can share that information with your salespeople, it gives them the ability to go look for places where there really is value in the marketplace. And it gives them the ability to have value conversations with their customers and potentially close more deals at the prices that we think they should be winning at. We hope you enjoyed this memecast. This impactful insight came from the book, Selling Value, which I wrote to help salespeople win more deals at higher prices. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me mark@impactpricing.com. Now go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

3 Aug 20221min

Colin Jasper has a Bachelor of Science in Statistics. He's been in consulting since 1997 and is currently a Principal at Positive Pricing in Melbourne, Australia. Colin is a competitive bridge player, and was a speaker at the Professional Pricing Society (PPS) this year. In this episode, Colin debunks three pricing myths and explains why these are the complete opposite of what people should be doing in pricing.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Discover three common myths people practice when doing pricing Understand why these false myths and are the complete opposites of what people should be doing in pricing Find out why we shouldn’t compete on price and not behave like a commodity   “Let's not behave like a commodity. Let's avoid competing on price.” – Colin Jasper   Topics Covered: 01:29 – How Colin got into pricing 02:31 – Creating huge impact on companies through pricing 03:31 – Billable hours in professional services firms: Perspectives of clients and firms 07:32 – Fixed $500/month vs. hourly fee for bookkeeping 09:31 – Good, better, best in fixed fee vs. hourly + the ultimate purpose of hourly rates 13:02 – Dealing with the uncertainty of projects 14:37 – Competitor pricing as a pricing myth 16:17 – “Aspire to be the most expensive and not be scared of that” 18:04 – Myth: Losing on price means their pricing strategy is wrong 20:26 – Colin’s pricing advice 23:13 – Pricing table topics: “Value-based pricing is never perfect. You can't read your customers’ mind.”   Key Takeaways: “From a client perspective, if a client doesn't want hourly rates, that's fine. They've got that. However, from a firm perspective, I think if the firm is going to be client-oriented, they should give the client the fee structure that they want.” – Colin Jasper “If your firm is going to put their interests ahead of yours, then you're probably working with the wrong firm in the first place. Because again, if the firm is putting their interests ahead of yours, they don't particularly care. I think the client ultimately chooses fee structure. It's our job to give them the fee structure they want, provided the fee level is high enough.” – Colin Jasper “Ultimately, when I come to what I think is we're trying to achieve with pricing, it’s coming up with a price that we regard as fair to the firm but is also fair to the client. And I think there are times where the best way to achieve that is through hourly rates.” – Colin Jasper “If you honestly aim to be the best firm in the market, your price has to send that message. You should aspire to be the most expensive and not be scared of that. You should own it.” – Colin Jasper “If you never lose work based on price, your pricing strategy is flawed. If you never lose work based on price, you're leaving money on the table.” – Colin Jasper   People / Resources Mentioned: Positive Pricing: https://positivepricing.com/ Ron Baker: https://www.verasage.com/ronald-j-baker/   Connect with Colin Jasper: Website: https://positivepricing.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/colin-jasper-7a401213/   Connect with Mark Stiving:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

1 Aug 202226min