Agile Pricing: Why it Matters, Solving Usage-Based Pricing Challenges with Griff Parry
Impact Pricing20 Mar 2023

Agile Pricing: Why it Matters, Solving Usage-Based Pricing Challenges with Griff Parry

Griff Parry is the Founder and CEO of m3ter where he helps make it easy for SaaS companies to intelligently deploy and manage usage-based pricing. He's led AWS’ go-to market strategy for games and gambling in EMEA, and his background includes entertainment at Sky TV and accounting at Ernst & Young. Griff was an extra in the movie “First Night” around 1993.

In this episode, Griff shares the work that they do at m3ter in helping customers deploy and manage usage-based pricing. He also discusses common pricing challenges, especially on doing a price change, emphasizing the importance of agility and transformation.

Why you have to checkout today’s podcast:

  • Understand the importance of having the agility to change pricing models quickly and in different situations, especially as to why pricing is not a one-and-done thing
  • Discover how m3ter helps SaaS companies make it easy to deploy and manage usage-based pricing
  • Find out in which circumstance usage-based pricing works best as you learn about different pricing philosophies

“Particularly in these market conditions, I would suggest that you set yourself up so that you can customize pricing by customer, or do more of that. There is a lot of money you'll be leaving on the table if you have a one-size-fits-all pricing strategy.”

– Griff Parry

Topics Covered:

01:49 – How Griff got into pricing

03:05 – What m3ter aims to solve in relation to usage-based pricing

05:06 – Delivering agility to the customers (why pricing is not a one-and-done thing)

08:57 – How m3ter helps customers find the right pricing model for the right situation

11:30 – Circumstances wherein you’d want to use usage-based pricing

14:45 – Pricing is an exchange of value between you and your customers

16:09 – Bill for overage over cap vs. renegotiate next year (tips on do’s and don’ts)

20:02 – Platform versus solution pricing (pricing philosophy of AWS and m3ter)

30:59 – Griff’s pricing advice

33:05 – Connect with Griff

Key Takeaways:

“Pricing is complicated; it involves lots of people. You need to bring them together so that they can plan and deploy those changes.” – Griff Parry

“Pricing is very definitely not one-and-done.” – Griff Parry

“To work out what you want to price, you have to look at what's going on at the moment. You have to have ready access to data about what people are consuming and how they respond to pricing changes.” – Griff Parry

“Pricing is an exchange of value between you and your customers. If they understand that they should pay more because they're using more or getting more value, that's fantastic; that's great for both parties.” – Griff Parry

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Robbie Kellman Baxter is an Advisor to the world's leading subscription-based companies, a Keynote Speaker and Author of The Membership Economy and The Forever Transaction. She is also the Host of Subscription Stories Podcast. In this episode, Robbie discusses the significance of upholding ethical standards when implementing a subscription business model, as it greatly affects the company's long-term viability.   Why you have to check out today’s podcast: Learn about the unethical practices in subscription pricing and their long-term implications for your business Find out effective price segmentation strategies that can be applied to your subscription-based business model Know why these companies are the best models when it comes to subscription pricing   “Have a rationale for your pricing structure that you would be comfortable showing to a loved one who is a customer.” - Robbie Kellman Baxter   Topics Covered: 01:49 - What drove her entry into Pricing 04:28 - Why some companies make it hard for subscribers to cancel and what is it's negative implication in the long run 08:12 - Bad karma as a consequence of hiding a cancellation button  09:20 - Discussion around an advancing legislation on making it easier to cancel subscriptions anytime 11:11 - Understanding price segmentation in a subscription pricing 17:20 - How she negotiates when buying a car, for instance, knowing someone else paid a different price for that 19:20 - Price segmentation discussion around Everyday-Low Price[EDLP] versus High-low Price 21:09 - Discussing pricing segmentation used by Netflix and news organizations 23:25 - Another price segmentation point of discussion [based on where you live and how busy these areas are] 26:06 - Case in point at Macy’s on price differential as the topic of discussion 27:51 - What makes her price sensitive even when she’s non-price sensitive 29:20 - Robbie’s best pricing advice   Key Takeaways: "I tried to explain to them how [putting some friction into your cancellation process] in the short-term does work, in the long term, it kills your business. It kills your reputation, it ruins the trust." - Robbie Kellman Baxter “Whatever it took to get you in there, it should take you out. If you can sign up any day of the week, any time of day, you shouldn't be required to cancel Tuesdays between two and four.” - Robbie Kellman Baxter “Where I come down on differentiated pricing or segmented pricing is if you can explain it to somebody. If your mother would be okay with being on the high end of that pricing and understanding why you're doing it, then I'm okay with it.” - Robbie Kellman Baxter   People / Resources Mentioned: SiriusXM: https://www.siriusxm.com/ Wells Fargo: https://www.wellsfargo.com/ Suzi Watford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/suzi-watford-18547817/ Dow Jones Wall Street Journal: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dow_Jones_%26_Company Booz Allen: https://www.boozallen.com/ Macy’s:https://www.macys.com JCPenney: https://www.jcpenney.com/ Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/   Connect with Robbie Kellman Baxter: Website: https://robbiekellmanbaxter.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbiekellmanbaxter/ Email: rbaxter@peninsulastrategies.com   Connect with Mark Stiving: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/ Email: mark@impactpricing.com

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This one is the 6 of Clubs from the Selling Value card deck. First, let's talk about an analytical journey. These are those people who, once they realize they have a problem that they might want to go solve, they spend a bunch of time doing their own research, probably on the internet, figuring out what are the different options, where they might buy it, what are the price points? These are the most price sensitive buyers we can deal with. And yet, if we get an opportunity to talk to them as a salesperson would talk to a potential client, we could be sitting there saying, Hey, here's why our product is better than our competitor's product. But my recommendation would be to make sure we have the value conversation about the inherent value of solving the problem. If we have that conversation, it may be that the buyer didn't realize that there were a lot of other opportunities or a lot of other places where there's value if they buy a product like this. The person might begin to trust the salesperson more and say, Hey, this person's really looking out for my best interest. The buyer is more likely to buy because we're showing them more and more value. So, for a lot of different reasons, it makes sense for us to make sure that we're going back to, let's call it "first principles". We're going back to help our buyers understand what's the value of solving the problem. And in the meantime, we also need to talk about how we are differentiated and possibly better than competitive alternatives. We hope you enjoyed this example of Pricing Table Topics. What you just heard was done without a script. If you want to get better at speaking about pricing and value, grab a deck of our cards, pick a card, read the saying, and then talk for one to two minutes about what that card says. You'll become a better speaker and expert. If you have any questions or feedback, please email me, mark@impactpricing.com. Now, go make an impact.   Connect with Mark Stiving: Email: mark@impactpricing.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiving/

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Pricing Table Topics: 6 of Hearts – Maintain a Comprehensive Value Table

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