Chess Master And CEO Gives His Take On The Skills Gap, The Future Of Leadership, Universal Basic Income And Much More

Chess Master And CEO Gives His Take On The Skills Gap, The Future Of Leadership, Universal Basic Income And Much More

Alan Trefler founded Pegasystems and as CEO has built the company into a $750 million provider of customer engagement solutions with 4,000+ employees based in Boston with 30 global offices, growing about 20 percent annually.

Trefler's life's work has been to design a platform for living applications that businesspeople can evolve to manage the constant disruption and change in today's customer-centric economy. Trefler's book, Build for Change, describes a new generation of customers with unprecedented power to make or break brands and changes businesses must embrace to succeed.

Pegasystems (aka Pega) is the leader in cloud software for customer engagement and operational excellence. If you've driven a car, used a credit card, called a company for service, opened an account, flown on a plane, submitted a claim, or performed countless other everyday tasks, chances are you've interacted with Pega. For the past 30 years, their technology – CRM, digital process automation, robotics, AI, and more – has empowered the world's leading companies to achieve breakthrough results.

Trefler's interest in computers originates from collegiate involvement in tournament chess, where he achieved a Master rating and was co-champion of the 1975 World Open Chess Championship.

What is it like to work at Pega?

It's changed over the years as technology has evolved. They have offices in 31 countries around the world. They have created collections of collaboration rooms so they can share with distributed teams. They are guided by their own software, designed to manage various tasks. They focus on being able to do case/work management to make sure people are aligned. They focus on trying to manage work around customer service.

Trefler believes that although there was a time when you would hear 'silicon valley' and think of innovation, today when you think of it, most people would think of 'entitlement'. They've been so successful they have begun to 'read their own press clippings' - which is a very dangerous thing.

When asked to define leadership, Trefler says, leadership is defined by character and leadership by the ability to show a level of reliability. Ultimately, it involves people choosing to follow. We have moved past the era of coercion. The elements include being highly informed and knowledgeable - and being able to describe the sensibility.

What you will learn in this episode:

  • The connections between chess and business
  • Thoughts on universal income
  • Skills of leaders in 2025
  • Alan's thoughts on the skills gap
  • What Alan would do differently if he had to create his company from scratch today
  • Alan's view of Silicon Valley

Episoder(1178)

Claude Mythos Leaked, AI Agents Done Wrong, JPMorgan's New Performance Rules, and the Gen Z Reality Check

Claude Mythos Leaked, AI Agents Done Wrong, JPMorgan's New Performance Rules, and the Gen Z Reality Check

March 27, 2026: Anthropic accidentally leaked Claude Mythos — its most powerful model ever — and the implications for cybersecurity and enterprise AI go far beyond a product announcement. America's to...

27 Mar 43min

The AI Liability Era Begins, Salesforce Freezes Pay, and Why 95% of Job Postings Still Don't Mention AI

The AI Liability Era Begins, Salesforce Freezes Pay, and Why 95% of Job Postings Still Don't Mention AI

March 26, 2026: A California jury found Meta and YouTube liable for deliberately addictive platform design — and the legal framework they used is headed straight for enterprise AI. Salesforce freezes ...

26 Mar 37min

863 Applications Per Hire, 78% of Workers Scared, and Microsoft Blows Up HR

863 Applications Per Hire, 78% of Workers Scared, and Microsoft Blows Up HR

March 25, 2026: Fortune reports that the job market has gotten so broken that people are paying $1,500 a month just to have someone apply to jobs on their behalf — and on average it takes 863 applicat...

25 Mar 52min

CFOs Say AI Barely Touched Jobs, College Grads Still Worried, Anthropic Releases Economic Index Report

CFOs Say AI Barely Touched Jobs, College Grads Still Worried, Anthropic Releases Economic Index Report

March 24, 2026: Three major research reports dropped today with a combined picture of where AI and work actually stand right now. A landmark NBER working paper of nearly 750 CFOs finds AI had zero mea...

24 Mar 45min

Microsoft's Chief People Officer Reveals the Playbook on Scaling AI Without Losing Trust

Microsoft's Chief People Officer Reveals the Playbook on Scaling AI Without Losing Trust

The real bottleneck to AI isn't the code; it's our own ego. We're so hooked on being the "expert" that we've forgotten how to be beginners again, and in a world changing this fast, that's a dangerous ...

23 Mar 52min

Trump's AI Framework Is Here, Your Retirement Is at Risk, and Engineers Are Quitting for Tokens

Trump's AI Framework Is Here, Your Retirement Is at Risk, and Engineers Are Quitting for Tokens

March 20, 2026:  The White House dropped its national AI legislative framework today — I go through the whole thing, because there's a provision about preempting state AI laws that is one of the most...

20 Mar 49min

NVIDIA CEO Says Leaders Lack Imagination, Cognizant's $4.5T Warning, & The Case Against the AI Apocalypse

NVIDIA CEO Says Leaders Lack Imagination, Cognizant's $4.5T Warning, & The Case Against the AI Apocalypse

March 19, 2026: Jensen Huang had one of the biggest weeks in tech at Nvidia's GTC — but his sharpest line wasn't about chips. When asked why companies are laying off workers, he said simply: because t...

19 Mar 44min

Liberal Arts Makes A Comeback, CEOs Freeze Hiring, & GDP Sees Ghosts

Liberal Arts Makes A Comeback, CEOs Freeze Hiring, & GDP Sees Ghosts

March 18, 2026: Two-thirds of CEOs are freezing hiring while betting billions on AI — and a gender economist argues they're cutting the very people needed to make those bets pay off. A 7,000-word Subs...

18 Mar 41min

Populært innen Business og økonomi

stopp-verden
dine-penger-pengeradet
lydartikler-fra-aftenposten
e24-podden
rss-penger-polser-og-politikk
rss-borsmorgen-okonominyhetene
pengepodden-2
finansredaksjonen
tid-er-penger-en-podcast-med-peter-warren
livet-pa-veien-med-jan-erik-larssen
utbytte
morgenkaffen-med-finansavisen
rss-markedspuls-2
lederpodden
pengesnakk
rss-pa-konto
liberal-halvtime
rss-fa-makro
rss-investering-gjort-enkelt
boligbobla