Completely Conspicuous 664: Time Stand Still

Completely Conspicuous 664: Time Stand Still

This week, I'm joined by fellow podcast pioneer Brian Salvatore as we discuss the first 20 years of podcasting.

Show notes:

  • Brian: First heard about podcasts in 2004
  • Started making the FrankBlack.net Podcast in 2006
  • Jay: Got my first iPod in 2004 and then learned about podcasts
  • Brian: The internet was so much better 20 years ago
  • Great for digging into niche interests
  • Jay and Brian met through the Frank Black podcast in 2010 and realized that Brian lived near Jay's brother-in-law
  • Jay: The start of CompCon in 2006
  • Always loved radio but never worked at the college station
  • First few years were just me talking about pop culture
  • Eventually started bringing on guests after a few years
  • Podcasting got an early boost when Apple started a podcast directory
  • Early podcasts I listened to were by Adam Curry, Ricky Gervais
  • Marc Maron started his podcast in 2009 and is airing his last episode next week
  • Now everybody's got a podcast
  • Brian: Before podcasts, blogging was a thing
  • Brian produces podcasts for other people in addition to his own
  • Podcasting never became a career for us, just a hobby
  • But some people have made lots of money from them
  • Brian: Not much innovation in the podcast space lately
  • Music podcasts were hampered by copyright issues
  • Podcast networks started popping up
  • Conan O'Brien created a great podcast after his TV talk show went away
  • Podcasting is much more interesting than commercial radio these days
  • Brian: Grew up loving radio, especially WFMU
  • Jay: College radio is still good, but commercial radio blows
  • DJs used to be dependable arbiters of taste
  • Now everything's heavily formatted
  • Jay: Been doing my own radio show on BFF.fm for the last 12 years
  • Brian co-owns a sports podcast company
  • People have trouble committing to a show once they start it
  • Listening habits have changed
  • Jay: Currently listen to WTF, The Best Show, sports shows about Toronto teams, The Lonely Island and Seth Meyers
  • Brian: Election Profitmakers, Song Exploder, Never Not Funny, Conan, Indiecast, Who Cares About the Rock Hall?, Mets podcasts
  • So much content to wade through
  • Just like with music; it's much easier to release an album now but there's so much out there
  • Tough to make it as a musician now
  • Podcasts have gone beyond a niche thing
  • Jay: I love listening to audio
  • The value of playing songs people haven't heard a zillion times
  • Every celebrity has a podcast
  • Will podcasts go back to the indie days at some point?
  • Jay: I do two podcasts for work
  • The bubble will burst at some point
  • AI could have a strange, negative effect
  • Connections formed via podcasting
  • Brian: Start a podcast, people

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The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

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Completely Conspicuous 529: Cheat to Win

Completely Conspicuous 529: Cheat to Win

I talk to Phil Stacey and Dave Olson about baseball's cheating scandal while we drive to a rock concert. Show notes: - Recorded on the way to see the Drive-By Truckers in Somerville, MA - Not the first cheating scandal in MLB, but this has a different feel - Houston Astros accused of stealing signs on the way to 2017 World Series - Every team cheats in some way or another - "If you're not cheating, you're not trying" - Corked bats, scuffed pitches - Baseballs were juiced last year to generate interest - The sport is fading in popularity - Too slow for short attention spans of today's society - Steroids in the late '90s were ignored in favor of home run records - Did the punishment fit the crime? - Astros were fined and lost draft picks, but could have been worse - MLB didn't expect this to blow up; former Astro revealed it in an interview - Public reaction has been loud - Two other teams have fired their managers who had connections to Astros that season - Did MLB and the teams coordinate these actions? - MLB wants this to go away and it's not - Other teams and players are upset about it - A pitcher sued because Astros lit him up and he was out of the majors - Astros are going to be booed mercilessly all season on the road - We don't know how much the sign stealing helped them - Houston will get some big TV ratings this season - Brought to you by Google Maps - Altuve was a heroic figure, now tarnished - MMA and pro wrestling are resonating with a younger generation - A lot of baseball teams struggle to fill the seats - Young kids would rather watch eSports, where other people play video games - Easier to cheat in baseball or basketball - Astros intern figured out how to steal signs and convinced management to adopt it - Astros players should expect to get hit by a lot of pitches this season Completely Conspicuous is available through Apple Podcasts and anywhere else you get podcasts. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

4 Mar 202034min

Completely Conspicuous 528: Burn and Shine

Completely Conspicuous 528: Burn and Shine

Part 2 of my conversation with guest Brian Salvatore as we discuss rock stars and aging. Show notes: - Recorded via Skype - '90s butt rock is alive and well in New Hampshire - Marlins will soar, according to Scott Stapp - Commercial rock radio is dying - In the mid-80s, rock radio was thriving in the Boston area - Brian has satellite radio - GNR/Smashing Pumpkins touring this summer - The evolution of Sugar Ray's sound - Mark McGrath is always working - The Cameo economy - Talking to musicians - The ubiquity of Henry Rollins - The musician deaths have always been plentiful - 10 years ago, we lost Jay Reatard, Teddy Pendergrass, Doug Fieger, Mark Linkous, Alex Chilton, Malcolm McLaren, Dio - So many big names in rock are getting older - Eagles have continued to tour without Glenn Frey - Surviving members of Nirvana have reunited for charity shows - Rush will never play another show - R.E.M. has never performed together since their breakup - More fun with Cameo - Don't wait to see a band you like - Jay: Trying to see bands I haven't seen before - Making up for lost time with some bands - Some bands sound better than ever: Dino Jr., Ween - Ozzy's looking pretty rough these days - Some artists you don't want to see anymore Completely Conspicuous is available through Apple Podcasts and anywhere else you get podcasts. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

26 Feb 202041min

Completely Conspicuous 527: Magic and Loss

Completely Conspicuous 527: Magic and Loss

I'm joined by guest Brian Salvatore as we discuss rock stars and aging. Show notes: - Recorded via Skype - Brian's first appearance on the show in two years - The rock deaths keep on hitting us hard - Neil Peart's recent death was surprising and shocking - Brian: Not a big Rush fan, but respected them - A couple of really good documentaries about the band - Rush followed their own path - Andy Gill of Gang of Four kept touring and recording right until he died - Big deaths that impacted us - Jay: Peart, Gord Downie, Bowie, Prince, Tom Petty - As a kid, remember Randy Rhoads, Bonham, Bon Scott, Keith Moon - Later, Cobain and Layne Staley - Tortured artist syndrome - Meanwhile, the Stones keep chugging along - Brian: McCartney is still amazing live into his 70s - Neither of us has seen the Stones live - Brian: Regret not seeing classic acts at least once - Prince played crazy long shows - Getting harder to stay out super late - "Farewell tours" tend to often be false alarms - A little more urgency to see certain artists who are older - A lot of reunion tours these days: Jawbreaker, Hot Snakes, Jawbox, Hoodoo Gurus - Will young artists today have the same longevity as the older artists now? - Touring's the only way to make money these days - Not even worth it for older acts to release new material now - Radio won't play new music from legendary acts - Classic rock fans don't want to hear new music, they just want the hits - You know what you're getting from a new AC/DC record - Many bands continue on after members die - Replacing iconic singers with unknowns - Alice in Chains has recharged their career somewhat post-Staley - Sublime's singer/leader died before their big album came out - To be continued Completely Conspicuous is available through Apple Podcasts and anywhere else you get podcasts. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

19 Feb 202045min

Completely Conspicuous 526: Go to Heaven

Completely Conspicuous 526: Go to Heaven

I'm joined by guest Phil Stacey as we discuss the Grateful Dead album Go to Heaven. Show notes: - Recorded at CompCon world HQ - The Dead transitioning into a new decade, the '80s - Cover may have given fans the wrong idea - Short outing at only 38 minutes - One of the least favorite studio albums among Dead fans - Phil: A real mish-mash - Contractual obligation: Third studio album in four years - AOR was getting big - The Godchauxs were gone - Brent Mydland brings a smooth Michael McDonald vibe that is off-putting - Grateful Dead keyboard players : Spinal Tap drummers - Some Dead classics on this album: Alabama Getaway, Althea - Didn't make another studio album for seven years - Jay might go see Dead & Co. with Phil at some point - Phil: This is their second-worst album - Lost Sailor doesn't work - Three straight Weir/Barlow songs - Saint of Circumstance could be an '80s sitcom theme song - Bob Weir loves the short shorts - Hey, we used to wear them, too - Mickey Hart eventually got into world music - Mydland's Easy to Love You could have been a pop hit - Album ends with a rave-up cover of Don't Ease Me In - Phil: In defense of U2's Zooropa - When we next convene, we'll talk about late '80s Dead Completely Conspicuous is available through Apple Podcasts and anywhere else you get podcasts. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

12 Feb 202051min

Completely Conspicuous 525: Shakedown Street

Completely Conspicuous 525: Shakedown Street

I'm joined by guest Phil Stacey as we discuss the Grateful Dead album Shakedown Street. Show notes: - Recorded at CompCon world HQ - First ep of the new decade - Shakedown Street came out in '78 - Lots of musical stuff happening: Disco, punk, new wave, hard rock - Disco wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be - Jay: No guilty pleasures: If you like it, you like it - The Dead were coming off a triumphant '77 - This was a contractually obligated studio album - Lots of influences thrown in: Funk, disco, African jazz, rock - Met with savage reviews - The version of "Good Lovin'" here pales in comparison to the live version, especially when Pigpen sang it - The last album with Donna and Keith Godchaux - Title track gets slagged as bad disco, but we dig it - Shakedown Street is now the name of the merch area at Dead & Co. shows - Pressure was on from Clive Davis for them to have hits - This album was produced by Lowell George of Little Feat - Seen as a disco album, but it's pretty diverse musically - The Dead weren't a great studio band - Mickey Hart stepped up with three songs - Phil: "I Need a Miracle" might be the best song on the album - "Stagger Lee" has an interesting history; versions were covered by many different artists - Jay: The Nick Cave version is the best, and the most profane - Album was scattered because of different influences plus substances - "All New Minglewood Blues" is a pretty rockin' cover - Dead appeared on SNL that year - Ends with a Garcia-Hunter love ballad that works - Jay: Liked about half the songs on the album - Next: 1980's Go to Heaven Completely Conspicuous is available through Apple Podcasts and anywhere else you get podcasts. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

5 Feb 202048min

Completely Conspicuous 524: Your Favorite Thing

Completely Conspicuous 524: Your Favorite Thing

It's part 3 of my conversation with guest Jay Breitling as we count down our favorite albums of 2019. Show notes: - Recorded at Clicky Clicky world HQ - Breitling's #4 - Former Boston act now relocated to Nashville - Perfecting her sound - Kumar's #4 - Introspective album that topped my midyear list - Sweeping, synth-driven songs - Breitling's #3 - Worthy follow-up to classic mid-'90s indie pop release - Expansive and experimental - Kumar's #3 - Return to rocking from for NJ punk stalwarts, produced by Bob Mould - Surprisingly succinct from a band known for 8-minute epics - Breitling's #2 and Kumar's #6 - Majestic final release from artist who tragically took his own life right after it came out - Backed by the band Woods - Kumar's #2 - Third release from Toronto punk-pop act - Writing about frustrations of getting older - Breitling's #1 - Recently released instant classic from Boston indie rock act - Frontman Ryan Walsh wrote album after dealing with struggles writing his book about Astral Weeks - Kumar's #1 - Veteran Canadian power pop act with another great release - All-star team of musicians - Darker feel than some of their other albums Completely Conspicuous is available through the iTunes podcast directory. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

31 Des 201950min

Completely Conspicuous 523: 10/10, Would Count Down Again

Completely Conspicuous 523: 10/10, Would Count Down Again

It's part 2 of my conversation with guest Jay Breitling as we count down our favorite albums of 2019. Show notes: - Recorded at Clicky Clicky world HQ - The top 10 - Breitling's #10 - A surprising solo debut from a veteran rock legend - Kumar's #9 - Raw shoegaze effort from Brooklyn act changing its sound - Breitling's #9 - Electronic album with an analog feel released late in the year - "Crust ambient" - Kumar's #8 - Power pop-punk album about the aftermath of broken relationship - Great album cover - Breitling's #8 and Kumar's #10 - Strong release from shoegaze pioneers - Trying some different things - Breitling's #7 - Shoegaze duo from California that likes to take its time - All killer, no filler - Berniece's sleep aggression - Kumar's #7 - Second release from indie legend's latest band - Embracing '80s hard rock sound - Breitling's #6 - Used to call this band the Steve Miller of indie rock - Opinion has changed, especially with the latest release - Sound is augmented by female singers - Kumar and Breitling's #5 - Latest in an strong stretch of releases from this punk/alt-rock legend - Sounds as good as he ever has - Unusually upbeat - Next: Our top 4 albums Completely Conspicuous is available through the iTunes podcast directory. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

24 Des 201948min

Completely Conspicuous 522: Hey Nineteen

Completely Conspicuous 522: Hey Nineteen

It's part 1 of my conversation with guest Jay Breitling as we discuss our favorite music of 2019. Show notes: - Recorded at Clicky Clicky world HQ - This program is not affiliated with Moviefone - A decade of talking rock - Near - Breitling: Had time to listen to a lot more music this year - The Billie Eilish vs. VH debate has been raging for a while - Kids don't know or care about music from 10 years ago, let alone 35 - A lot of butthurt older music fans getting worked up for no reason - Most kids have zero interest in classic rock - Listen to what you want - The "OK Boomer" phenomenon - When music becomes something on in the background - Breitling needs to see Idiocracy - The albums that didn't make our top 10 lists - Breitling: Floating Points, Rroxy More, Top Down Dialectic, Katie Dey, Max Richter - Kumar: Mikal Cronin, Ty Segall, Mark Lanegan, Trinary System - Mission of Burma's second act may be done - Breitling: Juana Molina, Bedroom Eyes, Lubec, DIIV, Tullycraft, She Sir, Snowball II - Kumar: Sleater-Kinney with a controversial new album; Janet Weiss pushed out of the band - Breitling: Would have been better received under a different band name like Unicorn Butt - Kumar: Pixies, Palehound, Kim Gordon, Pile, Black Mountain, Sebadoh, Fontaines DC, Telekinesis, Hold Steady, Desert Sessions, GBV, Wilco, Plague Vendor, Oh Sees, Nick Cave - Breitling: Better Oblivion Community Center, Florist, Big Thief - Next: Our top 10 albums Completely Conspicuous is available through the iTunes podcast directory. Subscribe and write a review! The opening and closing theme of Completely Conspicuous is "Theme to Big F'in Pants" by Jay Breitling. Voiceover work is courtesy of James Gralian.

17 Des 201947min

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