E160: How North Korea’s Dictatorship Endures: Historian Fyodor Tertitskiy Explains
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E160: How North Korea’s Dictatorship Endures: Historian Fyodor Tertitskiy Explains

A deep dive with historian Dr. Fyodor Tertitskiy on how North Korea’s dynasty survives—through isolation, terror, and nukes—and why collapse or unification is far from inevitable.

Guest bio:
Fyodor Tertitskiy, PhD, is a Russian-born historian of North Korea and a senior research fellow at Kookmin University (Seoul). A naturalized South Korean based in Seoul, he is the author of Accidental Tyrant: The Life of Kim Il-sung. He speaks Russian, Korean, and English, has visited North Korea (2014, 2017), and researches using Soviet, North Korean, and Korean-language sources.

Topics discussed:

  • Daily life under extreme authoritarianism (no open internet, monitored communications, mandatory leader portraits)
  • Kim Il-sung’s rise via Soviet backing; historical fabrications in official narratives
  • 1990s famine, loss of sponsors, rise of black markets and bribery
  • Nukes/missiles as regime-survival tools; dynasty continuity vs. unification
  • Why German-style unification is unlikely (costs, politics, identity; waning support in the South)
  • Regime control stack: isolation, propaganda “white list,” terror, collective punishment
  • Reliability of defectors’ accounts; sensationalism vs. fabrication
  • Research methods: multilingual archives, leaks, captured docs, propaganda close-reading
  • Elite wealth vs. citizen poverty; renewed patronage via Russia
  • Coups/assassination plots, succession uncertainty
  • North Korean cyber ops and crypto theft
  • “Authoritarian drift” debates vs. media hyperbole in democracies
  • Life in Seoul: safety, civility, culture

Main points:

  • North Korea bans information by default and enforces obedience through fear.
  • Elites have everything to lose from change; nukes deter regime-ending threats.
  • Unification would be socially and fiscally seismic; absent a Northern revolution, it’s improbable.
  • Markets and graft sustain daily life while strategic sectors get resources.
  • Collapse predictions are guesses; stable yet brittle systems can still break from shocks.
  • Defector claims need case-by-case verification; mass CIA scripting is unlikely.
  • Archival evidence shows key “facts” were retrofitted to build the Kim myth.
  • Democracy’s victory isn’t automatic—citizens and institutions must defend it.

Top 3 quotes:

  • “There is no internet unless the Supreme Leader permits it—and even then, someone from the secret police may sit next to you taking notes.”
  • “They will never surrender nuclear weapons—nukes are the guarantee of the regime’s survival.”
  • “The triumph of democracy is not automatic; there is no fate—evil can prevail.”

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