Episode 319: The Shadow of the Object (Freud's "Mourning and Melancholia")
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Episode 319: The Shadow of the Object (Freud's "Mourning and Melancholia")

David and Tamler transfer their libidinal energy to Freud's 1917 article "Mourning and Melancholia," in which he tries to understand what's going on with depression, attempts to distinguish it from normal grief, and arrives at some ideas that laid the groundwork for his later theory of normal human development. Plus, another blind ranking segment--this time Tamler gives David a list of rappers to rank blindly. Finally, in between segments we make an announcement about the topic of our next bonus series (it's gonna be epic).

Freud's "Mourning and Melancholia" [wikipedia.org]

The Odyssey (translated by Emily Wilson) [amazon.com affiliate link]

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