Win-Win with Liv Boeree18 Apr 2025

#40 - Lewis Bollard - How to End Factory Farming

Factory farming is one of the most universally loathed industries on Earth —so why is it still growing?

Today I chat with Lewis Bollard, a leading researcher in farm animal welfare and global food policy, to understand the true scale and impact of industrial animal agriculture, and what we can do to improve it.

We hear how corporate lobbying and political corruption have allowed the normalization of practices so harmful to both human and animal health they will take your breath away… including irresponsibility towards deadly pathogens like H5N1, intentional animal torture, massive antibiotic overuse and environmental contamination of large areas downstream of these giant intensive farms.

On the more positive side, we explore the growing bipartisan support for animal welfare among voters, and how simple ballot measures could radically shift the future of our food back onto a healthier, more win-win path. So strap in for an intense episode—but one that’s packed with practical solutions and reasons for hope.

0:00 - Intro & Lewis's life story

4:20 - What Qualifies as a Factory Farm?

14:20 - The Human Cost Of Factory Farming

20:33 - U.S. Labeling Standards

25:11 - Pandemic Risks from Factory Farming

31:45 - Environmental Impacts

36:28 - Mental Health Of Farm Workers

43:13 - Undercover Reporting

48:14 - Political Corruption and Incentives

53:14 - EATS Act & the Farm Bill

1:00:32 - Ag-gag Laws

1:04:32 - Improvements & Solutions

1:17:29 - Government Subsidies

1:24:02 - Technological Solutions

1:31:08 - Cultivated Meat

1:39:52 - What YOU can do!

1:45:38 - Finding a Win-Win Future of Farming

Links :

♾️ US Statistics on Factory Farming: https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/almost-all-livestock-in-the-united-states-is-factory-farmed

♾️ Global Statistics on Factory Farming https://ourworldindata.org/how-many-animals-are-factory-farmed

♾️Voters Demand Farm Animal Protections : https://www.dataforprogress.org/blog/2022/8/2/voters-demand-farm-animal-protections-from-both-politicians-and-companies

♾️ Take Action to Oppose the EATS act / anti Prop 12 addition to the Farm Bill: https://animalequality.org/stop-eats-act/

♾️ Follow Lewis on Twitter: https://twitter.com/Lewis_Bollard

♾️ Follow Lewis on Substack: https://substack.com/@farmanimalwelfare

Credits

♾️ Hosted by Liv Boeree

♾️ Edited and Mixed by Jackson Page

♾️ Produced by Luca de Vico

The Win-Win Podcast

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