Dr. Katherine Ramsland Talks About the Connection Between Serial Killers and Suicide
Can the act of suicide among serial killers be seen as a final assertion of control or an ultimate act of remorse? This intriguing question forms the crux of a riveting conversation between Tony Brueski, host of the podcast "Hidden Killers," and renowned forensic psychologist Dr. Katherine Ramsland. In a thought-provoking exchange, Dr. Ramsland delves into the psychological complexities of serial killers who commit suicide. Contrary to popular belief, these individuals are not a monolith; they exhibit a wide array of personalities, disorders, and motivations, even in their reasons for ending their own lives. "A lot of people think all serial killers are alike, and they're not," Dr. Ramsland explains. She emphasizes the diversity among them, challenging the stereotype of a one-dimensional, remorseless killer. The motivations for suicide among these individuals are as varied as their crimes, ranging from a last-ditch effort to avoid capture to deep-seated remorse. Interestingly, only about 25% of these individuals leave behind notes, and even then, their motivations are rarely clear. Dr. Ramsland, also a suicideologist, underscores this point: "We're speculating, and here and there, we have some who made it very clear why they're doing this." The conversation takes a darker turn as they discuss serial killers who chose suicide at different stages - some before being identified, some during investigations, and others while imprisoned. Dr. Ramsland cites Leonard Lake, who committed suicide upon arrest, and Jack Unterweger, an Austrian serial killer who vowed never to spend another day in prison and followed through on this promise after his conviction. Brueski questions whether these acts are more about control than remorse. Dr. Ramsland's response is telling: "The ones who have expressed remorse are a really low percentage." This suggests that while some may experience genuine regret, many view suicide as a final exertion of control over their fates - a narcissistic suicide, as Dr. Ramsland labels it. The conversation also explores the correlation between the methods of suicide and the killers' circumstances, noting a prevalence of shootings and hangings. Dr. Ramsland points out the practical aspects of these choices, with availability often dictating the method. Further probing the depths of these killers' psyches, Brueski asks about the role of upbringing and mental health in their decisions to end their lives. Dr. Ramsland notes that many who committed suicide had backgrounds marked by psychiatric issues and sexual compulsion, adding complexity to their profiles. In a striking revelation, Dr. Ramsland debunks the myth that serial killers are devoid of empathy. They can, in fact, sense others' feelings; their issue lies in their indifference to these emotions, driven by their self-centered worldviews. The article concludes, leaving readers with a lingering question: When serial killers choose the path of suicide, are they seeking a final act of dominance over their narrative, or are they driven by a deeper, perhaps misunderstood, sense of remorse? This conversation with Dr. Katherine Ramsland sheds light on the intricate and often misunderstood psychological landscapes of serial killers, challenging our perceptions and inviting us to ponder the complex interplay of mind, crime, and ultimate self-destruction. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
13 Nov 20238min
WEEK IN REVIEW-Will BTK Ever Confess To Additional Crimes?
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
23 Okt 20235min
WEEK IN REVIEW-Will Sheriff & DA's In-Fighting Destroy New BTK Investigation?
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
21 Okt 20239min
Will BTK Ever Confess to Additional Crimes?
Could the infamous BTK be embroiled in yet another gruesome chapter of his criminal history? This question has been thrust into the limelight once again as investigators delve into potential unsolved murders from 1976 tied to the notorious serial killer, Dennis Rader, commonly known as BTK. The recent investigations, however, seem to be riddled with controversy and discord rather than conclusive answers. Sheriff Eddie Virden, the current head of the investigations and now a TV regular with his signature large hat, has been conspicuously public about the case. Tony Brueski, the host of "Hidden Killers" podcast, noted Virden's behavior as "a bit showy," recalling a particular TV appearance where Virden toyed with evidence in the form of pantyhose, which raised more than a few eyebrows. However, the intrigue doesn't end with Virden's theatrical inclinations. Discord between Virden and the District Attorney over the direction and viability of the investigation has been evident. Brueski remarked, "You have the DA in this case... and there is some political angle here as to maybe why he doesn't support Eddie." The question then arises: Is the DA's reluctance rooted in a lack of solid evidence, or is there more to the story? Shavaun Scott, a psychotherapist and author, offered her perspective during the podcast. She highlighted a crucial point, stating, "DA's are known for not moving ahead with charges unless they're really certain that it's a case that they can make well and ultimately win." If the evidence isn't watertight, the DA might naturally hesitate. This, juxtaposed against Virden's seemingly zealous approach, has resulted in evident friction. The potential consequences of such disagreements were pointed out by Scott: "So often human behavior, everything turns into a power struggle... rather than 'how can we collaborate? How can we solve a problem? How can we work together?'". If the primary goal is justice for the families of the victims, these disputes could prove to be an unfortunate distraction. Brueski also raised an interesting point, questioning if emotions and egos were overshadowing the real mission. "Is this another case where that's really playing priority? Egos are playing priority over the actual mission of getting truth and facts." A potential solution was proposed: offering Dennis Rader immunity in exchange for a confession. However, even this strategy seems to have been met with complications. Rader has not only declined the offer but has also made an eerie statement: "I don't want to take credit for someone else's." Such a remark, coming from BTK, adds layers of mystery to an already complex case. Scott aptly described Rader's perplexing demeanor by saying, "He could also be playing mind games... talk about an odd character. Something that no one will ever, I'm sure, truly understand unless you are someone who thinks like him." In the midst of controversies and a whirlwind of questions, the quest for justice remains paramount. While the BTK's crimes have been exhaustively examined and documented, this recent chapter reopens old wounds and introduces new challenges. The hope is that amidst the cloud of uncertainty, a clear path will emerge that leads to justice for the families that have been waiting since 1976. To what extent can the often incomprehensible motives of a serial killer and the complexities of power dynamics within the justice system impact the search for the truth? Only time, collaboration, and an unwavering commitment to justice might provide an answer. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
17 Okt 20234min
Will Sheriff & DA's In-Fighting Destroy New BTK Investigation?
In the heart of Wichita, Kansas, a haunting shadow of the notorious BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill) killer, real name Dennis Rader, still lingers even after decades of his reign of terror. A recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers," hosted by Tony Brueski, delves deep into a hot topic: a potential link between Rader and a 1976 murder in Oklahoma. But instead of solving cold cases, what surfaces is a surprising turn of events involving clashing personalities, lawsuits, and politics. During the discussion, Tony Brueski and guest Eric Faddis, a former Felony Prosecutor and attorney, analyze the current state of the investigation. Amidst the turmoil stands Sheriff Eddie Virden and District Attorney Mike Fisher, both holding conflicting opinions on the involvement of the BTK killer in the Oklahoma case. Fisher recently commented on the lack of substantial evidence to tie Rader to the case. Contrarily, Virden is steadfast in his belief. In his commitment, he's even set up a nationwide task force with reputable investigative forces. However, there's more to the story. Virden, known for his flamboyance and tendency to display evidence on television, is now suing DA Mike Fisher for libel. Fisher, a supporter of Virden's opponent in the upcoming elections, made what Virden calls "uninformed and ignorant comments" about his investigation into BTK. Virden's lawsuit, coupled with his constant quest for media attention, seems more like a personal vendetta than a quest for justice. Eric Faddis sheds light on the dynamics, saying, "When I was a prosecutor... this is a conversation that is part of a law enforcement coalition in investigating a murder. Here, we have it very public." The publicized discord is alarming. With a lawsuit between law enforcement entities, a different prosecutor's office might have to be brought in. This could set the case back to square one. The real question is: What does Virden gain by suing the district attorney? Faddis opines, "I think if there was something solid there, the district attorney would be all about it." All evidence points to old leads that don't solidify the connection to BTK. Yet, Virden's lawsuit, seemingly motivated by personal interests, could further hinder the investigation and prolong closure for the victim's families. Faddis adds, "If this sheriff would have come to me with this idea, that likely would have been my response. In terms of bringing a lawsuit... he kind of likes the attention. He likes the publicity." At the center of this turmoil, the forgotten voices are those of the victim's families. Eric Faddis, empathizing with their situation, highlights, "You have this atrocity that stole unfairly your loved one forever... and then, oh, it's completely screwed over by infighting amongst law enforcement entities." It's a gut-wrenching roller coaster for these families, with the very entities meant to bring them justice at loggerheads. The underlying truth remains: the investigation into the BTK killer's potential connection to the 1976 Oklahoma murder is being overshadowed by the political chess game. Yet, the public can only hope that amidst the chaos, the truth surfaces. As the case seesaws between truth and turmoil, one has to wonder: will justice be a casualty in the power dynamics of law enforcement? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
16 Okt 20238min
How The New BTK 'Investigation' Is Turning Into A Circus
Is a long-standing feud between two key figures in Osage County putting justice at risk? An episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers" brings to light an escalating dispute between Sheriff Eddie Virden and District Attorney Mike Fisher over an investigation into a potential murder linked to the notorious BTK killer in the 1970s. According to the transcript, the contention between the two officials has reached its boiling point with a lawsuit filed by Virden against Fisher. The root cause? Comments made by Fisher that the sheriff's investigation is more about gaining publicity and furthering political ambitions than serving justice. As quoted in the podcast, Osage County Sheriff Eddie Virden alleges that Mike Fisher had even gone as far as contacting elderly families of the murder victims and discouraging them from cooperating. The podcast hosts, Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke, provide an insightful discussion into this dispute. Brueski describes it as a "bizarre small town fight" while Dreeke sees it as a clash of two self-serving biases. Dreeke poses an essential question: "Who's his [Virden's] loving critic?" emphasizing the need for a voice of reason in such intense situations. The focus should be on the interests of the case and the families, rather than personal gains. Another twist in the tale is the upcoming political election, where Fisher is backing Virden's opponent. This adds another layer to the already complex narrative, as some suggest that the entire investigation could be a publicity stunt. Brueski and Dreeke also delve into the nationwide task force Virden has formed to investigate the potential BTK link. The group includes prominent names, some of which, like Nancy Grace, raise eyebrows and further fuel the publicity versus justice debate. Dreeke aptly remarks that while the intent behind creating the task force might be noble, its execution is questionable. Throughout their conversation, both hosts gravitate back to the true victims of this political and ego-driven saga: the families. As the dispute gets messier and more public, these families face further heartache, uncertain about the possibility of justice for their loved ones. Dreeke touches on a poignant point, emphasizing that while numerous investigators work diligently behind the scenes, delivering justice quietly, this public feud has overshadowed their tireless efforts. The potential secondary motives, perhaps even unbeknownst to the parties involved, raise serious concerns about the true intentions behind the investigation. In concluding the podcast episode, Dreeke laments, "There's a lot of phenomenal investigators out there doing the hard work every day... And the fact that we're hearing so much about this, it makes you question another motive that they might not even be aware of." The intriguing revelations from the "Hidden Killers" episode paint a vivid picture of the complexities and personal dynamics that can cloud criminal investigations. As egos battle and political ambitions intertwine with justice, one can't help but wonder: In the end, who really benefits? And, perhaps more importantly, who truly suffers? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
16 Okt 20238min
WEEK IN REVIEW-BTK Task Force Member Joni Johnston Talks Next Steps In Investigation
Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news. This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events. Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience. Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
30 Sep 20238min
Why Reality TV & Active BTK Investigation Don't Mix
"Can the resurgence in a cold murder case be overshadowed by the allure of reality TV fame?" This is the question on the lips of many after a recent episode of the podcast "Hidden Killers" hosted by Tony Brueski. Brueski spoke to psychotherapist and author, Shavaun Scott, discussing the renewed vigor in investigating a possible link between the infamous BTK killer and the unsolved disappearance of Cynthia Dawn Kinney in 1976. As the narrative goes, BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill) had penned a piece titled "Bad Wash Day" during his stint as an ADT installer across from the bank where Kinney was last seen. The seeming connection has ignited a spark in Osage County under-sheriff, Eddie Vierten, who has expressed enthusiasm in procuring evidence from Wichita to explore the potential link. “I applaud them for having this energy,” Brueski stated, referring to the efforts of the national task force, which includes BTK's own daughter. The aim is clear: to find answers and possible closure for a case that has long remained cold. However, the commendable zeal is slightly tainted by rumors of a reality show in the works. Sheriff Gary Upton is reportedly working on a reality TV project with the CW network, scheduled to tape later this year with a prospective air date in January. Brueski voiced his reservations, remarking, “I've never heard of television working quite the way that Gary is talking about.” The implications are slightly unnerving, especially when you consider the seriousness of the crime and the pain it has inflicted on many. Scott echoed Brueski's concerns, pointing out the potential ethical misstep of blending true crime with reality TV sensationalism. "It's not about somebody becoming famous," she emphasized, "It's really about wanting to solve this crime." A professional in her field, Scott acknowledged the ethical boundaries that all professionals should adhere to. The quest for fame, as it seems, could muddy the clear waters of justice and leave the real objectives in the backdrop. This isn't to dismiss the efforts of investigators who step into the limelight for the sake of justice. “I do admire people who are going to step out of their own comfort zone,” Brueski noted. But there's an unsettling theatricality in the way the case has been portrayed, which Brueski likened to a Netflix miniseries with creative liberties. Of course, there's always the human element. Cynthia Dawn Kinney's parents are still alive and yearning for answers. This reinvigorated investigation offers a glimmer of hope to them. Yet, if the allure of fame and attention overtakes the noble pursuit of justice, the consequences could be tragic. Brueski's advice to those involved, especially those on the task force: “Be careful on the optics on this and who's driving the ship.” Shavaun Scott concurred, stressing the importance of adhering to ethical guidelines and maintaining clarity on the main goal - solving the crime. The case's revival raises pertinent questions about the ethical implications of mixing crime-solving with entertainment. Are the boundaries between seeking justice and gaining fame becoming too blurred? So, as listeners grapple with the new information and opinions, we are left pondering: "Where should the line be drawn between crime-solving as a public duty and as a form of entertainment?" Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com
29 Sep 20235min
