2107 Colorism with Pearl Dobbins
"We know that a very real and persistent anti-blackness exists within the US as a construct." Alfonso + Trina welcome Senior Strategist Pearl Dobbins to the podcast. Pearl shares her experience + lear...
15 Apr 202135min
2106 Preference for Christianity
"Folks conflate being nice with being inclusive." Alfonso + Trina dig into the ways Christian dominant culture shows up in workplaces that may or may not be in our awareness when we are part of that c...
6 Apr 202128min
2105 On Metrics
"Is employee satisfaction with DEI or anti-racist initiatives a good indicator that we're on the right track?" Alfonso + Trina share their current thinking on what it means to measure progress inside ...
30 Mar 202117min
2104 Preference for Masculinity
"Any kind of body can perform masculinity." Trina + Alfonso dig into the ways that current US workplaces demonstrate a preference for behaviors associated with masculinity. Alfonso asks Trina to unpac...
22 Mar 202128min
2103 Co-Writing a Book
"The preservation of white people's comfort is not a good goal." Alfonso + Trina have almost completed co-writing their book, 'Hiring Revolution: A Guide to Disrupting Sexism + Racism,' & take this ep...
2 Mar 202133min
Episode 2102 Relationship to Time
"The idea that time is neutral is only true if we don't get really judgey and hierarchical about how other people relate to time." Trina + Alfonso dig into concepts of and relationships to time. They ...
16 Feb 202130min
2101 Truth + Insurrection
Alfonso + Trina talk about how they felt watching a white, militant insurrection at the United States Capitol. They share suggestions on how to hold space for processing national events + domestic ter...
2 Feb 202116min
Episode 2024
What are we building from and what are we building towards? Trina + Alfonso share some of where they're building from as they walk towards a new calendar year. They dig into the idea of not just takin...
15 Des 202023min
