Five with Fry

Five with Fry

Five with Fry is your go-to podcast for understanding conflict—where it comes from, why it shows up, and how to handle it with clarity and intention. On each episode, Dr. Jen Fry breaks down the moments we avoid, the reactions we default to, and the skills it takes to move through conflict without blowing things up or shutting down.

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Episoder(72)

S2 Ep9: Conflict Isn't the Villain

S2 Ep9: Conflict Isn't the Villain

This season kept coming back to the same place: leadership starts with self. Not with strategy. Not with authority. With your patterns. Conflict does not come out of nowhere. Your responses were shape...

10 Mar 6min

S2 Ep8: "I’m Sorry You Felt That Way" is a Trash Apology

S2 Ep8: "I’m Sorry You Felt That Way" is a Trash Apology

Repair is where leadership gets exposed. Not when things are smooth. Not when the meeting goes well. After you interrupt someone. After you dismiss a concern. After you get it wrong. Most leaders don’...

3 Mar 5min

S2 Ep7: How Fast Will They Tell You You’re Wrong?

S2 Ep7: How Fast Will They Tell You You’re Wrong?

Leaders love to say their door is always open. That sounds generous. It also keeps you comfortable. Power doesn’t disappear because you’re approachable. It shows up in who has to walk toward you. It s...

24 Feb 5min

S2 Ep6: Stop Calling It “Defensive” When It’s Just Questions

S2 Ep6: Stop Calling It “Defensive” When It’s Just Questions

There’s a moment that happens in feedback conversations all the time. Someone asks a question or tries to explain their perspective, and the response is, “You’re being defensive.” The label lands, and...

17 Feb 5min

S2 Ep5: Congratulations on Winning That Imaginary Argument

S2 Ep5: Congratulations on Winning That Imaginary Argument

Do you do this, too? Something feels off, and before you say a word, your brain writes a full script about what the other person meant, why they did it, and how it’s probably not great. I call this t...

10 Feb 4min

S2 Ep4: Emotional Regulation Isn't Optional

S2 Ep4: Emotional Regulation Isn't Optional

Conflict doesn’t break relationships. What breaks them is unmanaged emotion. The moments where we shut down, get sharp, avoid the conversation, or expect other people to absorb what we haven’t dealt w...

3 Feb 4min

S2 Ep3: "Calm Down?" That Phrase Might Be Your Kryptonite.

S2 Ep3: "Calm Down?" That Phrase Might Be Your Kryptonite.

Some words hit harder than they should. A comment like “calm down” can flip a switch in your body before your brain has a chance to weigh in. In this episode, I’m talking about what happens when you g...

27 Jan 5min

S2 Ep2: When Meetings Get Spicy, Don’t Rake The Zen Garden

S2 Ep2: When Meetings Get Spicy, Don’t Rake The Zen Garden

Most leadership problems show up in moments of tension. Not the dramatic blowups, but the everyday heat in meetings, feedback conversations, or decisions that carry weight. This episode is about what ...

20 Jan 5min

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