Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

The first draft of our future. Mapping the new world order through interviews and conversations. Every Thursday, from New York Times Opinion. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app.

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He Believes America Should Be a Theocracy. He Says His Influence Is Growing.

He Believes America Should Be a Theocracy. He Says His Influence Is Growing.

Evangelical pastor and self-proclaimed Christian nationalist Doug Wilson has been preaching for decades that America needs to reclaim its Puritan past. But in 2025, he believes he’s “significantly” mo...

9 Okt 20251h 14min

Hasan Piker Is Flirting With the Revolution

Hasan Piker Is Flirting With the Revolution

The Twitch and YouTube star Hasan Piker understands what pushes people to commit acts of political violence. But does that understanding tip over into appreciation? In this episode of “Interesting Tim...

2 Okt 20251h 13min

The Grand Strategy Behind Trump’s Crackdown on Academia

The Grand Strategy Behind Trump’s Crackdown on Academia

What is wrong with higher education in America? According to many on the right, a lot. This week, Ross Douthat talks to May Mailman, the lawyer behind President Trump’s battles with Harvard and Columb...

25 Sep 202559min

Ezra Klein Is Worried — but Not About a Radicalized Left

Ezra Klein Is Worried — but Not About a Radicalized Left

Ezra Klein argues that the left desperately needs a unifying project — for its own survival and for the sake of the country. In this episode of Ross Douthat’s “Interesting Times,” Ross and Ezra assess...

18 Sep 202547min

I was set to interview Charlie Kirk. Then he was assassinated.

I was set to interview Charlie Kirk. Then he was assassinated.

In moments of political shock and horror, where can we turn? Ross was supposed to interview Charlie Kirk next month for the show and now offers his reflections on Kirk, his political movement and his ...

11 Sep 20258min

Does the Future Belong to China?

Does the Future Belong to China?

Is the United States still a worthy opponent for China? In this episode, Ross Douthat talks to Dan Wang, the author of “Breakneck: China’s Quest to Engineer the Future,” about the alarming speed at wh...

4 Sep 20251h 5min

The MAGA Woman Dress Code

The MAGA Woman Dress Code

While “Interesting Times” is on vacation, we’re sharing a conversation from “The Opinions” between Meher Ahmad, an editor for Times Opinion, and the Opinion writer Jessica Grose. They talk about the a...

28 Aug 202520min

Ross and Ezra Klein Discuss Trump, Mysticism and Psychedelics

Ross and Ezra Klein Discuss Trump, Mysticism and Psychedelics

This week, we’re sharing a great conversation Ross had on “The Ezra Klein Show” this past spring. Ezra asks Ross about his most recent book, “Believe: Why Everyone Should Be Religious.” But along the ...

21 Aug 20251h 36min

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