Let's Go To Court!

Let's Go To Court!

The Let’s Go To Court podcast brings together two of the greatest legal minds of our time. Just kidding.
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LGTC ended in early 2024, but Kristin Caruso is still podcasting... and this time she has teamed up with her husband, Norm! Please subscribe to their new show, An Old Timey Podcast. It's well researched, wide-ranging, and deeply silly!



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204: Wells Fargo Robbery & a Mysterious Illness

204: Wells Fargo Robbery & a Mysterious Illness

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! It’s tough to rob an armored car. But on November 28, 1994, a group of men did exactly that. Their crime was brazen. They took control of the vehicle in a mall parking lot, in broad daylight. They exercised unnecessary violence, too. They shot the Wells Fargo van driver, John Magoch, in the head and left him slumped over in the front seat. When the armored car was discovered abandoned in a church parking lot a few hours later, the money — and the criminals — were long gone.   Then Brandi tells us about a mysterious illness. Janet Overton hadn’t been feeling well. She turned to doctors for answers, but couldn’t get any. Whatever plagued her was tough to identify. And then, one day, Janet collapsed in her driveway. The 46-year-old woman, who’d been healthy until recently, was now dead. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The Wells Fargo Heist” episode of American Justice “Convict says manhunter framed him” by Dennis Wagner for the Arizona Republic “New questions in  ‘94 armored-car murder,” by Michael Kiefer for the Arizona Republic “Ring v. Arizona,” Oyez.org “Timothy Stuart Ring,” Murderpedia.org “Former Falls resident still denies role in murder,” by Bob Dyer for the Akron Beacon Journal “Three arrested in slaying in armored car heist,” by Richard Robertson and Susan Leonard for the Arizona Republic In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Janet Overton” chillingcrimes.com “A Slow Death” episode The Real Murders of Orange County “Every morning, Janet Overton applied eyeliner. It was slowly killing her.” By Helen Vnuk, MamaMia “O.C. man convicted of fatally poisoning his wife” by Rong-Gong Lin II, Los Angeles Times YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 30+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

2 Mar 20222h 21min

203: A Stalker & a Deeply Stupid Heist

203: A Stalker & a Deeply Stupid Heist

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Get ready to be infuriated.  Tiana Notice wanted nothing to do with her ex-boyfriend, James Carter. He’d seemed perfect at first, but it didn’t take long for Tiana to see his true colors. So she dumped him. But like a true shithead, James refused to take no for an answer. He called her constantly. He stalked her. Tiana went to the police for help several times. In fact, over the course of six weeks, she visited her local police station 33 times. But the police never took Tiana seriously.  Then Kristin lightens the mood with the story of a hilariously stupid heist. David Ghantt worked as a vault supervisor for Loomis Fargo in Charlotte, North Carolina. David made very little money, but was surrounded by so much of it that he went home every night reeking of cash. It was annoying, to say the least. So when his crush, Kelly Campbell, came to him with an idea to steal all the money from the vault, David went along with the plan. He’d steal $17.3 million dollars from the vault, and he’d keep one third of it. But he wouldn’t get the money right away. He’d need to hide out in Mexico for a while. Kelly and the rest of the money would *definitely* join him later.    And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: An episode of the FBI Files, titled “The Unperfect Crime” An episode of Super Heists, titled “A Van Full of Dollars” Reporting by Jeff Diamant for the Washington Post in 1999 “October 1997 Loomis Fargo robbery,” entry on Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “If I Can’t Have You” episode Deadline: Crime with Tamron Hall “Valentine's Day murder: Stalker violates restraining order, kills ex-girlfriend” True Crime Daily “Jury Begins Deliberations In Carter Murder Trial” by Hilda Muñoz, Hartford Courant “Carter Found Guilty Of Murder” by Christine Dempsey, Hartford Courant “Carter Refuses To Be In Court As He Is Sentenced To 60 Years For Killing Tiana Notice” by Christine Dempsey, Hartford Courant “STATE of Connecticut v. James P. CARTER, Jr.” findlaw.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 30+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

23 Feb 20222h 36min

202: Death Penalty Cases

202: Death Penalty Cases

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Wanda Lopez was a little freaked out. She was working the evening shift, alone, at a gas station in a rough part of town, and a sketchy dude was outside the store with a knife. She called the police, but they brushed off her concerns. The guy hadn’t done anything! He wasn’t even inside the store! But the man’s presence set off Wanda’s alarm bells. So she called 911 again. The dispatcher didn’t like Wanda’s tone (!!) but sent officers to the scene when he overheard the man attack her. It was too late. Wanda didn’t make it, but at least there were eyewitnesses who could tell the police who’d done it. The murderer was a thin, 5’9” Hispanic man with curly, ear-length hair. He was wearing a flannel jacket. Or was it a white button up? Tomayto, tomahto!  After a 45-minute manhunt, they arrested Carlos DeLuna. Carlos claimed he was innocent. He’d seen another man commit the crime – a man who was also named Carlos. Carlos Hernandez. But Carlos DeLuna was full of shit. Right? Then Brandi keeps the bummers coming with another family annihilator. On a weekend in July of 2003, Joanie Harper, her children Marques, Lyndsey, baby Marshall and mother Earnestine Harper were all murdered in their home. The killer made a lame attempt at staging a break-in, but because they’d seen Dateline, investigators immediately turned their suspicion on Joanie’s husband, Vincent Brothers. But Vincent had been out of town during the murders, and he had the receipts to prove it.  And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The Phantom” documentary “The Wrong Carlos: Anatomy of a Wrongful Execution,” by James S. LIebman  and the Columbia DeLuna Project  “The wrong Carlos: How Texas sent an innocent man to his death,” by Ed Pilkington for The Guardian “Carlos DeLuna” entry on Wikipedia “Yes, America, we have executed an innocent man,” by Andrew Cohen for The Atlantic In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Harper Family” episode Family Massacre “The Mystery of the Lost Weekend” episode Dateline “'That’s A Lot Of Hate’: Dead Insects Lead Detectives To Man Who Killed 5 Family Members” by Joe Dziemianowicz, oxygen.com “DEFINING CASES: Bugs and sex: Vincent Brothers’ 2007 multiple-murder conviction came down to insect parts and his smugness on the stand” by Jessica Logan, The Bakersfield Californian “Brothers attorneys blame woman for murders” by Jessica Logan, The Bakersfield Californian “Vincent E. Brothers” murderpedia.org “Vincent Brothers” wikipedia.org YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 30+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

16 Feb 20222h 48min

201: Jodi Arias (Pt. 2) & Clarence Elkins

201: Jodi Arias (Pt. 2) & Clarence Elkins

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! If you haven’t listened to last week’s episode, then sashay away. If you have listened to part one of Brandi’s Jodi Arias coverage, then Shante, you stay.  This week, Brandi tells us about the epic trial of Jodi Arias. Brace yourself for a dramatic make-under, a homemade t-shirt, and several plot twists. Our advice? BUCKLE UP. Then Kristin covers the legal battles of Clarence Elkins. Stay buckled, because this one includes an appearance on the Maury Povich show, drunken chore completion, and a prosecutor who can’t keep his grubby mitts off the evidence. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Melissa Elkins” episode of I Solved A Murder “The Murder of Judith Johnson” episode of American Justice “Killer Instinct” by Sara James “Shadow of a Doubt: The Clarence Elkins Story” by Katherine Ramsland for Crime Library “Clarence Elkins” entry on Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Jodi Arias Revised Timeline (UPDATED)” by David Lohr, huffpost.com “How an Inside Edition Interview Became a Key to Prosecuting Jodi Arias” Inside Edition “The Case Continues: Jodi Arias Pt. 1” episode Snapped “The Case Continues: Jodi Arias Pt. 2” episode Snapped “Arias Trial Timeline of events in Mesa murder case” The Associated Press, East Valley Tribune “Timeline: A look back at the Jodi Arias murder case” azcentral.com “In Saving Jodi Arias' Life, Kirk Nurmi Became the Most Hated Lawyer in Arizona” by Shanna Hogan, Phoenix New Times “Jodi Ann Arias” murderpedia.org “Murder of Travis Alexander” wikipedia.org YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 30+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

9 Feb 20223h 24min

200: Jodi Arias & the Duke Lacrosse Scandal

200: Jodi Arias & the Duke Lacrosse Scandal

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! We missed you all! We are back from break, refreshed and rejuvenated and ready to bring you a VERY meaty boi! Kristin starts us off with a sports story. (Yes, you read that correctly.) Over spring break of 2006, the Duke University men’s lacrosse team was bored. So they threw a party. As the night wore on, they hired two exotic dancers to come perform at their house party. The night was a shitshow. The two women performed for the crowd of men, but stopped when one of the players made a threatening comment about a broomstick. Later that night, hours after the party dispersed, one of the women reported that she’d been gang raped. Then Brandi shows off her giant balls by giving us part one of her Jodi Arias coverage! When Travis Alexander met Jodi Arias, he was awestruck. She was beautiful. They talked all evening, and Travis fell head over heels. Jodi was everything he wanted in a woman. She seemed equally smitten with him. Even though they lived in different states, they tried to make their long-distance relationship work. Jodi even converted to Travis’ religion. But Travis’ friends weren’t quite so taken by Jodi. Over time, he came to question whether Jodi was really the one after all. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: The book, “The Price of Silence” by William D. Cohan “Fantastic Lies” episode of 30 for 30 “Duke lacrosse case,” entry on Wikipedia In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “The Case Continues: Jodi Arias Pt. 1” episode Snapped “The Case Continues: Jodi Arias Pt. 2” episode Snapped “Friends say they warned Travis Alexander that Jodi Arias was dangerous for months before she killed him” by Gail Deutsch, Denise Martinez-Ramundo, Jonathan Balthaser, and Enjoli Francis, ABC News “Jodi Ann Arias” murderpedia.org “Murder of Travis Alexander” wikipedia.org “Jodi Arias Timeline: Key Dates In Case Of California Woman Accused Of Stabbing Ex-Boyfriend 27 Times” by David Lohr, huffpost.com “Timeline: A look back at the Jodi Arias murder case” azcentral.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 30+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

2 Feb 20223h 8min

199: Shawn Bentler & War Machine

199: Shawn Bentler & War Machine

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Shawn Bentler had money trouble. He wanted money desperately, but didn’t want to work for it. In fact, Shawn was so bad at showing up for work that he got fired from the family business. He later got fired from another job when he told his boss that he was overwhelmed by the sudden passing of his father. (His dad was very much alive.) But at some point, Shawn came up with an idea. If his family was dead, he’d inherit a lot of money.  When Christy Mack and Jon Koppenhaver, a.k.a. “War Machine” met on a photo shoot for Hustler Magazine, Christy was indifferent. She wasn’t looking for a boyfriend. She valued her independence. But she and Jon got to talking, and she was charmed. She’d never had someone shower her with so much love and attention before. Within a few weeks, they began dating. A few months later, the violence began. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “The Case of Jon Koppenhaver,” JCS - Criminal Psychology “The tragic love story of Christy Mack and MMA fighter War Machine,” by Jane McManus for espn.com Christy Mack’s twitter account “Cage-fighter War Machine blames anti-male society for his domestic violence in suicide note,” by Scott Kauffman for rawstory.com “Ex-fighter War Machine gets judge to postpone trial,” by Ken Ritter for the Associated Press “War Machine sentenced to life for brutal assault of ex: Inside the MMA star’s fall,” by Mike Bohn for Rolling Stone “Christy Mack vs. War Machine: The whole ugly case, explained,” by Meera Jagannathan for the Daily News “Porn star Christy Mack’s alleged ‘rape fantasy’ new focal point of War Machine abuse trial,” by Jessa Schroeder for the Daily News “War Machine blows ‘offensive’ kiss after arguing that porn star ex cant’ claim rape because of her job as sex worker,” the Daily News “MMA Fighter ‘War Machine’ arrested in Simi Valley, was sought in Las Vegas beating of ex-girlfriend,” by Melissa Palmer and Mary Beth McDade for KTLA In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Shawn Bentler” podcast episode, This Is Monsters “Shawn Michael Bentler” murderpedia.org “Man charged in killing described as unreliable” Associated Press “Trial Opens for Man accused of Killing his 3 Sister, Parents in Iowa” Associated Press “Judge to visit home where man is accused of killing his family” by Amy Lorentzen, Associated Press “Emotional day for Bentler family” Associated Press “Remembering the Bentlers” by Melissa Shriver, KHQA News “Killer’s Children Get Millions” KTVO News “State v. Bentler” Findlaw.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 28+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

15 Des 20212h 25min

198: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery & a Mysterious Pool Death

198: The Murder of Ahmaud Arbery & a Mysterious Pool Death

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Nearly every day, Ahmaud Arbery went out for a jog. February 23, 2020 was no exception. His route included a loop through Satilla Shores – a neighborhood just a couple miles from his own, but not nearly as racially diverse. After a while, a truck with a Confederate flag vanity plate began following Ahmaud. Inside the truck were Gregory and Travis McMichael. Both men had guns. They yelled at Ahmaud to stop. They wanted to “talk to him.” Ahmaud wasn’t interested. He tried to get away from the men, but soon, a man named William Roddie Bryan joined in. He used his truck to trap Ahmaud. Ahmaud had nowhere to run.  Then, Brandi tells us about a mysterious pool death. As handyman Gerald Gardener walked toward the back of Samira and Adam Frasch’s home, he spotted the couple’s dog running loose by the pool. Then he saw a pair of sandals. One was caught under a hose on the first step of the pool. The other floated nearby. Gerald moved in closer. That’s when he spotted Samira, dead at the bottom of the pool. And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: Episode of 20/20, “Nowhere to Run” Episode of 48 hours, “A Promise to Ahmaud” “Ex-Brunswick DA indicted for misconduct in Ahmaud Arbery case surrenders,” by Brittany Muller for News4Jax “In Ahmaud Arbery’s name, Georgia repeals citizen’s arrest law,” by Emma Hurt for NPR “Factbox: Who was Ahmaud Arbery?” by Rich McKay for Reuters “The citizen’s arrest law cited in Arbery’s killing dates back to the Civil War,” by Frances Robles for the New York Times “Ahmaud Arbery: Waycross district attorney explains in letter why no one was arrested in 25-year-old’s shooting death,” by Amber Krycka for Action News Jax “Race not a factor jurors will consider in the case of three men accused of murdering Ahmaud Arbery,” by Anne Schindler for First Coast News In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Illicit Affairs” episode In Ice Cold Blood “At The Bottom Of The Pool” episode Dateline “Frasch murder investigation reveals couple’s torrid existence” by Jennifer Portman, Pensacola News Journal “Samira Frasch” chillingcrimes.com YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 29+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

8 Des 20212h 52min

197: Childhood Friends & the Kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr

197: Childhood Friends & the Kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Jr

Hate ads? The entire LGTC catalog is available ad-free on Patreon! Initially, Sarah Stern’s disappearance looked like a suicide. Her car had been found abandoned on a bridge. On the day she went missing, she gave a box of keepsakes to a neighbor. Her best friend, Liam McAtasney, confirmed to police that Sarah had been depressed. She’d told him she wanted to “get away.” But Sarah’s family and other friends told a different story. For one, she would never have left her beloved dog unattended. Secondly, she wasn’t depressed at all. Then Kristin tells us about the kidnapping of Frank Sinatra Junior. Barry Keenan was down on his luck. He was addicted to drugs and alcohol, and for the first time in his life, he was broke. He needed money, fast. So he hatched a plan to kidnap Bob Hope’s son. But Bob Hope seemed so nice. He was always entertaining the troops! Kidnapping Bob Hope’s son would be positively un-American. So Barry decided to kidnap Frank Sinatra’s son, instead.  And now for a note about our process. For each episode, Kristin reads a bunch of articles, then spits them back out in her very limited vocabulary. Brandi copies and pastes from the best sources on the web. And sometimes Wikipedia. (No shade, Wikipedia. We love you.) We owe a huge debt of gratitude to the real experts who covered these cases. In this episode, Kristin pulled from: “Snatching Sinatra” by Peter Gilstrap for The New Times Los Angeles Magazine 1998 “‘Son of Sam’ law upheld in Sinatra kidnapper’s movie deal,” Reporters Committee For Freedom of the Press “Frank Sinatra, Jr., kidnapping,” FBI.gov “Kidnapping ordeal tested family ties,” by J. Randy Taraborrelli for Arizona Republic, Nov 26, 1997 “Court asked to overturn ban on felons selling stories,” by Robert Jabion for the Associated Press, December 7, 2001 “Both Sinatras due to testify soon,” by Ridgely Cummings for Civic Center News Agency, Feb 27 1964 “Perjury enters Sinatra case as witness changes his story,” UPI, Feb 25, 1964 “Frank Sinatra, Jr., denies kidnapping publicity stunt,” Associated Press, Feb 29, 1964 “Sinatra could go, defendant claims,” Associated Press, March 3, 1964 “Sinatra-abduction case goes to jury,” Associated Press, March 7, 1964 “Jury gets Sinatra kidnap case,” Associated Press, March 7, 1964 In this episode, Brandi pulled from: “Sarah Stern” chillingcrimes.com “With Friends Like These” episode 20/20 “Sarah Stern murder: Suspect said she wanted to run away, had suicidal past” by Kathleen Hopkins, Asbury Park Press “Sarah Stern murder: No new trial for Liam McAtasney” by Kathleen Hopkins, Asbury Park Press “Friend Who Killed 19-Year-Old New Jersey Student Sarah Stern Gets Life Without Parole- Plus 10 Years” by Brian Thompson, NBC New York News YOU’RE STILL READING? My, my, my, you skeezy scunch! You must be hungry for more! We’d offer you some sausage brunch, but that gets messy. So how about you head over to our Patreon instead? (patreon.com/lgtcpodcast). At the $5 level, you’ll get 28+ full length bonus episodes, plus access to our 90’s style chat room!

1 Des 20212h 44min

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