Long Island Serial Killer | The Trial Of Rex Heuermann

In a recent episode of the acclaimed podcast "Hidden Killers", host Tony Brueski had a riveting conversation with Forensic Psychologist Kate Wallinga. The focal point of their discussion was the ongoing Rex Heuerman case, which has witnessed yet another twist. As per recent developments, Heuerman's DNA is set for another round of testing.   Last week, the case gained attention when the defense argued that there wasn't sufficient probable cause to mandate a DNA test. Their contention was quickly dismissed by a judge, stating, “The court finds contrary to the defendant's contentions. There is probable cause to believe that the defendant committed the crimes charged, and therefore a basis to compel for the buccal swab."   This buccal swab, a procedure where cells are collected from the inside of a person's cheek, is pivotal. The DNA obtained will be compared with the mitochondrial DNA sample that was retrieved from a strand of hair. This hair was found on some of the victims, specifically on the burlap sacks that were used to cover their heads. Another compelling piece of evidence was a pizza crust found outside of Heuerman's office, which eventually led to his arrest.   Brueski expressed astonishment at the defense's argument, considering the substantial evidence already available. He posed a significant question: "I was amazed that anybody could be making the argument if this doesn't reach the level of probable cause, considering everything they pulled out of his house and all the other pieces of evidence that seem to link him to these crimes. What possibly does?"   Wallinga, with her forensic expertise, provided a comprehensive explanation. "The police's job is to find you guilty. Like cops, that's what they do. Their job is to find ways that you are getting in trouble and hold you accountable," she began. She clarified the roles of the police and defense attorneys, stating that while police aim to find guilt, the defense's job is to ensure that every step taken by the police is legitimate and above board. The defense's duty is to hold the police accountable.   She further delved into the intricacies of DNA-related cases, shedding light on the nuances involved. "It's really common in DNA cases like this where they find the mitochondrial DNA in the trash, for instance, because trash becomes public property. And then after that, you have to get a search warrant for a cheek swab," Wallinga explained.   This suggests that while the process may seem straightforward to the public, the legal intricacies and procedures involved can be complex. Both the police and the defense have their specific roles and responsibilities, and ensuring that each party adheres to their duties is crucial for the integrity of the justice system.   As the Rex Heuerman case progresses, it becomes evident that DNA testing and its legal stipulations play an indispensable role. Both Brueski and Wallinga’s conversation underscores the importance of understanding the legal procedures, ensuring that justice is not only done but is also seen to be done. As new evidence unfolds and the legal debate continues, listeners and followers of the case await the next chapter in this intriguing saga. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

16 Aug 202310min

In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski engaged in a revealing conversation with Clinical and Forensic Psychologist & licensed private investigator, Joni Johnston, as they grappled with the psychological complexities behind Rex Heuerman. Heuerman is the man now imprisoned amid harrowing allegations.   Brueski began by probing into the mind of such individuals: "As we dive into Rex Heuerman, from a psychological standpoint, how would someone approach the conversation about his mental state now that he's behind bars?"   Johnston's insight into this realm was both enlightening and compelling. She began, "It's hard to imagine a scenario when he would agree to a forensic psychological evaluation." But in the event that he did, Johnston explained, the primary objective is to build rapport. "Unless you can establish some kind of rapport with that person, you are going to get nowhere with them," she said.   She elaborated on her methods, "One of the things I do sometimes in evaluating defendants facing very difficult trials is I try to empathize with their feelings about where they are." Whether innocent or guilty, many defendants often feel trapped, victimized, and overwhelmed by their current circumstances. Approaching from a place of empathy, Johnston conveyed, is key to gaining their trust.   The motive of the psychologist's presence also plays a pivotal role. She stated, "Their reception of me is going to be different if I am coming in as a court-appointed evaluator, or if I'm coming in on behalf of the defense or the prosecutor." Johnston underscored the importance of transparency and ensuring the person understands their rights, including the right not to participate.   Delving deeper, she described her tactic to approach such conversations gradually. "I start really from a subject that's very far away from the current situation... starting with non-threatening questions, talking about their childhood, where they grew up, earliest memories... and I gradually work my way up to the current situation."   However, Johnston highlighted that interviews form just a part of a multifaceted process. She brings in psychological testing as a potent tool. "It gives me a way to compare this particular person to thousands of other people who've taken some of the same instruments." As Johnston shared, these assessments are designed to detect inconsistencies, offering insights into whether someone is feigning mental illness or denying its presence.   She added, "One of the things that really differentiates a forensic evaluation from a clinical evaluation is that person may have a very understandable reason to lie." To counteract potential deceit, Johnston stressed the importance of consulting diverse sources, from custody officers to witness statements, and even to the person's previous acquaintances. This expansive approach provides a rounded view, helping identify patterns in behavior, whether indicating mental health issues or stability.   Johnston concluded, "It really is a pretty comprehensive evaluation that takes that person where they are now. Depending upon what the referral question is, I'm gonna use all those strategies to put together and form some kind of opinion about this person."   The insightful exchange between Brueski and Johnston offers a glimpse into the intricacies of forensic psychology. As the case of Rex Heuerman unfolds, the importance of understanding the mind behind the man becomes ever more crucial, not just for the case but for the broader comprehension of the human psyche. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

15 Aug 20234min

The complex case against Rex Heuermann is coming into focus as law enforcement authorities are piecing together evidence that spans multiple states and years. In a recent podcast episode, "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski discussed the case with Neama Rahmani, a former Federal prosecutor.   "About the case against Rex Heuermann and the evidence spanning... multiple years here... What kind of challenges does that give?" Brueski opened the discussion, highlighting the magnitude of the case. Rahmani responded with a sobering reflection on the challenges ahead. "Oh, it's a huge one," he began, illustrating the enormity of the investigation that crisscrosses jurisdictions from South Carolina to New Jersey and even Las Vegas.   Rahmani delved deeper into the intricacies, especially concerning the prosecutions: "On the prosecution side, they're gonna have a lot of resources, you know, FBI and so forth." The alleged crimes involve multiple victims, many of whom may be linked to Heuermann. The vastness of the crime scene and the myriad of evidence make the case reminiscent of high-profile cases like that of Harvey Weinstein. Rahmani pointed out that just like Weinstein, who faced trials in multiple states, Heuermann could be subjected to the same fate. "It's not just dealing with New York. He's gonna likely have to deal with... prosecutions in those jurisdictions too," Rahmani noted.   Brueski brought up the chilling detail of child pornography charges that Heuermann faces, hinting at the gravity of the situation, even if other charges do not stick. Rahmani agreed, explaining the stringent sentencing around such crimes, especially at the federal level. "Given, um, he's almost certainly gonna be convicted of that. I mean, there's really no defense," Rahmani stated unequivocally.   An alarming aspect of the case, however, is the possibility of Heuermann facing the death penalty, considering the nature and span of his alleged crimes. Rahmani acknowledged the potential but also pointed to the nuances of jurisdictional law. "In New York, I think hasn't had a death penalty case in, in quite some time. So this strikes me as a life case again unless he ends up getting prosecuted in a death penalty jurisdiction. I think South Carolina is one of those."   The conversation took a turn when Brueski probed into the quality of the investigation thus far, asking if there were any areas that stood out. Rahmani did not hold back, highlighting criticisms of the previous district attorney and allegations of federal corruption within the office. Rahmani reflected, "There's folks there who are doing some federal prison time." The nature of the victims also played a role in the slow progression of the case. Many victims are young women without much familial or social support, making them easier to overlook.   Drawing attention to the technological advancements that have made crime-solving significantly more efficient over the past decade, Rahmani remarked, "Law enforcement has such a huge advantage." From advanced DNA evidence to internet search histories and surveillance footage, the evidence-gathering tools available are vast. Yet, Rahmani concluded with a pointed observation: "Given the advantage that the police department and... federal agents have, when it comes to investigating these cases, it does really make you question why it took so long to find them."   The case against Rex Heuermann unfolds as a testament to the intricate web of crime and justice, revealing both the prowess of law enforcement and the challenges they face in a rapidly evolving digital age. The trial, undoubtedly, will be one closely watched, not just for its verdict but for the light it sheds on our justice system's strengths and weaknesses. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

15 Aug 20235min

The recent episode of "Hidden Killers," a renowned podcast hosted by Tony Brueski and Stacy Cole, focused on the controversial case of the Gilgo Beach murders. As the hosts discussed, the accused murderer, Rex Heuermann, who has been finger-pointed for these horrendous crimes, remains innocent until proven guilty. The hosts, however, made it clear that the opinions presented were those of John Ray, an attorney representing some of the victims' families, and not of the podcast.   John Ray's statements were brought into focus primarily because they sometimes contradict popular opinion. Tony mentioned, "When you see a case like this, you identify immediately, you know, the victims." Often, society marginalizes and denigrates the victims because of their professions. Stacy Cole noted that the world's oldest profession, alluding to prostitution, has been around for a long time. Both hosts firmly believe that no matter the profession, no one ever deserves to be a victim of such heinous acts.   Tony reflected on the societal bias against the victims, which possibly contributed to the prolonged time taken to solve the case. He mentioned that the victims were often seen as "society's lesser," leading their cases to be put on the back burner. Stacy added that unless there are families or loved ones pushing for answers and justice, such cases often go unnoticed.   Enter John Ray. Having represented some of the victim families for nearly a decade, Ray has had significant involvement in this case, even before Rex  Heuermann's name surfaced. Ray's current focus, according to the hosts, is on Asa, Rex's wife. Tony stated, "I think they're fair questions to be asked" while discussing potential connections to Rex's alleged crimes.   Tony and Stacy discussed how in many instances, the families of accused individuals are often seen as victims. Drawing parallels with the BTK killer's family, Tony emphasized that just because one family was unaware doesn't mean that's the case for every serial killer's family.   A point of contention was a GoFundMe account for Asa's family. Tony revealed research suggesting that the family's net worth may range between $5 to $7 million, putting into question the need for such a fundraiser. "Is it truly going to a place of good?" Tony questioned.   John Ray's opinion on the matter was that Asa seems to be "playing a con game," implying that there might be hidden motives behind her raising funds. Ray's most controversial point was regarding the possibility that Asa might have had knowledge about Rex's affiliations with sex workers.   Tony wrapped up the discussion by reiterating that these are just opinions and official evidence is still pending. Both hosts were united in their emphasis on caution and the importance of verifying information before concluding.   As the Gilgo Beach murders case continues to unfold, "Hidden Killers" sheds light on various perspectives, ensuring that listeners remain informed from all angles. The podcast serves as a reminder that in a world filled with gray areas, staying informed and open-minded is paramount. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

15 Aug 202319min

In an engrossing interview, Attorney John Ray, representing families of the victims of the infamous Gilgo Beach Serial Killer, raises some stirring questions regarding the recent developments in the case. His comments challenge the prevailing narratives and highlight the need for a more comprehensive investigation. True Crime Today and Hidden Killers Podcast does not have proof of what Ray is suggesting. Authorities had initially ruled out any involvement of Heuermann's wife, Asa Ellerup, stating that she had alibi at the time of the crimes. Ray expressed his astonishment at certain puzzling aspects of the case, most notably the apparent lack of scrutiny around the wife of the accused serial killer. He said, "How odd does that strike you in a case like this where the husband is accused of being a serial killer, and yet there hasn't been an in-depth conversation with the spouse?" The underpinning concern stems from the presence of two hairs from the wife found on two of the victims. While many experts have alluded to plausible explanations like inadvertent shedding, Ray counters by highlighting the deliberate absence of more hairs if it was mere coincidence. On the topic of inadvertent shedding of hair, Ray critically observed, "Doesn't say that's necessarily true, does it? It says it might be true... but it equally might be true that that's not the case." His contention revolves around the idea that the wife could have been present, albeit the veracity of such claims remains uncertain. Further intensifying the intrigue, Ray introduced the narrative of a credible witness, who allegedly reported the ongoing solicitation of escorts within the house. He stated, "This witness is credible. This witness indicates that yes, this man had many escorts in his house over the course of years." The implication being, if the wife was aware of such activities, her potential complicity in the ongoing crime of prostitution, if not murder, should be deeply probed. Ray doesn’t mince his words when it comes to the recent GoFundMe set up for the accused's family. His advice to potential donors was clear-cut, "It's a foolish act to donate to people whose money's gonna go to the tax authorities and you're paying for the murderer's tax liabilities." Ray implies that any donation could indirectly support the alleged murderer’s liabilities. However, it's crucial to note that the interview represents Ray's perspective, underscored by his role as an advocate for the victims' families. Authorities have, so far, ruled out any involvement of the wife in the crimes, referencing her alibi. The Gilgo Beach Serial Killer case continues to unravel with newer twists, and the views of experts like Ray only add another layer to this intricate mystery. Only time, and further investigation, will tell if the pieces of this perplexing puzzle will ever fit neatly together. True Crime Today and Hidden Killers Podcast does not have proof of what Ray is suggesting. Authorities had initially ruled out any involvement of Heuermann's wife, Asa Ellerup, stating that she had alibi at the time of the crimes. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

14 Aug 202323min

The world of forensic science, especially in recent years, has played an instrumental role in solving the mysteries of unsolved cases. The Rex Heuermann case is a prime example of this, with DNA evidence under intense legal scrutiny.   In a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski engaged an attorney and former Federal prosecutor Neama Rahmani in a deep dive into the significance of DNA evidence in the Rex Heuermann case. The point of contention? A buccal swab was initially denied, but the court subsequently mandated its submission.   Rahmani began by emphasizing the profound impact DNA evidence has on criminal cases. He shared, "The DNA's huge; it's everything. That's what really broke the case. Obviously, we know it was the vehicle and the roommates and that testimony, but the DNA puts him and really his wife's DNA at the scene of multiple murders." Rahmani suggests that the presence of DNA evidence in today's courtrooms offers an almost irrefutable testament to one's involvement in a crime, far from the days of the OJ Simpson case. He highlighted, "Jurors, they all know how reliable DNA evidence is and the fact that your DNA's there, you better have an explanation."   The implications of having DNA at the crime scene, especially across multiple murder locations, pose significant challenges for the defense. Rahmani says, "Whenever you have multiple victims in multiple scenes, it becomes tough." Moreover, the swabbing for DNA, in this case, isn't protected by the Fourth or Fifth Amendments. Rahmani continued, "You don't need a search warrant, you gotta give up that DNA. You even give a sample when you're arrested."   Given the gravity of DNA evidence, one has to wonder: what defense strategies can be possibly employed? Rahmani has seen various tactics over his career, from claims of evidence transfer and planting to direct attacks on the reliability of DNA evidence. However, he remarked on the overwhelming odds against the defense, stating, "whenever you're dealing with a one in a trillion chance that it's someone else's DNA. That's something that's just very tough to overcome from a defense perspective."   Brueski's probing led Rahmani to illuminate the daunting task before the defense attorney. With terabytes worth of information to sift through, including electronic evidence, cell phone data, emails, and controversial computer content, it's not just DNA that needs addressing. Rahmani commented, "There's just a lot for the defense attorney to go through."   Given the preponderance of evidence against Heuermann, and the grim realities faced by his defense team, many wonder if the case will even go to trial. Rahmani, though acknowledging the initial defense talks about the presumption of innocence, said he believes the case can't truly be defended on its merits.   Rahmani also touched on the rarity of dealing with a serial killer in the modern age, noting, "We haven't had a serial killer in quite some time." He hinted at the complexities surrounding the Brooklyn DA's handling of the case, suggesting that given Heuermann's age and the severe nature of his alleged crimes, a plea deal seems unlikely. Rahmani ended with a candid observation, "This is a life case. There's gonna be no deal in this case... I can see this being one of those cases... we're gonna go through the motions of a trial, but I think the result gonna be inevitable."   In this convoluted legal battleground, the Rex Heuermann case offers a poignant testament to the power of DNA evidence and the monumental challenges faced by the defense in an era where science can unveil unsettling truths. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

14 Aug 20235min

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.     Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

13 Aug 20237min

Welcome to the "Week In Review," where we delve into the true stories behind this week's headlines. Your host, Tony Brueski, joins hands with a rotating roster of guests, sharing their insights and analysis on a collection of intriguing, perplexing, and often chilling stories that made the news.       This is not your average news recap. With the sharp investigative lens of Tony and his guests, the show uncovers layers beneath the headlines, offering a comprehensive perspective that traditional news can often miss. From high-profile criminal trials to in-depth examinations of ongoing investigations, this podcast takes listeners on a fascinating journey through the world of true crime and current events.       Each episode navigates through multiple stories, illuminating their details with factual reporting, expert commentary, and engaging conversation. Tony and his guests discuss each case's nuances, complexities, and human elements, delivering a multi-dimensional understanding to their audience.  Whether you are a dedicated follower of true crime or an everyday listener interested in the stories shaping our world, the "Week In Review" brings you the perfect balance of intrigue, information, and intelligent conversation. Expect thoughtful analysis, informed opinions, and thought-provoking discussions beyond the 24-hour news cycle.     Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Chad & Lori Daybell, The Long Island Serial Killer, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

12 Aug 20237min