Point of Relation with Thomas Huebl

Thomas Hübl is joined by seasoned author and clinician Deb Dana and the founder of the Polyvagal Theory (PVT) Dr. Stephen Porges for a lively discussion about the essence of PVT, the importance of human connection to the mind and body, and their methods of self-regulation for trauma survivors.What You Will Discover: ✔️ The Polyvagal Theory is about human connection.Dr. Stephen Porges goes deep into the Polyvagal Theory and its core essence, describing how human socialization can prevent modern stress-related disorders. He explains how modern society demands that people constantly exist in a threatened state, causing them to lose connection to their bodily cues and reducing their ability to regulate with others. “Social interaction isn’t just psychological behavior; it’s also neurophysiological.”✔️ Stress and trauma cause dissociation.Learning how to safely come back into our bodies after dissociation is a slow process, as shared by Deb Dana. Trauma survivors have acclimated to removing themselves from the present situation because of repeated painful events. Deb Dana teaches her clients to recognize their bodies’ ways of determining threat and safety.✔️ Have a micro-moment of regulation.How do people who have experienced traumatic and dangerous situations throughout their lives return to a state of self-regulation? Deb Dana helps clients navigate through their map of disconnection. The earlier we recognize the 'warning' signs of dysregulation, the less mental and physical energy we'll need in order to return to a more regulated baseline.✔️ Honor your body’s ability to regulate itself.Dr. Stephen Porges points out that our bodies have their own ways of signaling to us that there’s something wrong. It's important to pay attention to our bodies and acknowledge what they're trying to teach us.✔️ Our patterns of protection are shaped throughout our life.Due to trauma and constant exposure to painful situations, we have developed patterns of protection that we immediately employ when we sense even the slightest dangers. Getting stuck in this constant cycle of shielding oneself inhibits one from enjoying life.✔️ Recognize your body’s signs of a warning and a welcome.Dr. Stephen Porges and Deb Dana share ideas about how to remain in a state of regulation and how to differentiate a 'warning' from a 'welcome' sign. People have been programmed to mobilize, complete tasks, and maximize productivity in the modern world - without considering their mental and physiological state. This constant inhibition of bodily cues disconnects us from our physical form.---------------Deb Dana, LCSW is an author, clinician, and consultant specializing in using the lens of polyvagal theory to understand and resolve the impact of trauma and create ways of working that honor the role of the autonomic nervous system. She developed The Rhythm of Regulation Clinical Training Series, and lectures internationally on ways polyvagal theory informs work with trauma survivors. She partners with Sounds True through the audio program, Befriending Your Nervous System: Looking Through the Lens of Polyvagal Theory, and her forthcoming book, titled Anchored: How to Befriend Your Nervous System Using Polyvagal Theory. ---------------Dr. Stephen Porges is a distinguished university scientist at Indiana University, where he is the founding director of the Traumatic Stress Research Consortium. He is a Professor of Psychiatry at the University of North Carolina and Professor Emeritus at both the University of Illinois at Chicago and the University of Maryland. He is the originator of the Polyvagal Theory, a theory that emphasizes the importance of the physiological state...

4 Apr 20231h 14min

Intergenerational trauma is a huge part of Esther Perels and Jack Saul’s personal histories and work. In today’s podcast, Thomas, Esther, and Jack dig deep into their stories of working with trauma survivors and discuss how creativity, eroticism, and creating new narratives can affect trauma healing, intimate relationships, and the impacts of intergenerational trauma.What You Will Discover: ✔️ Freedom in confinement comes from our imagination.What makes people stay alive? Wherever a person may be, they can use their imagination to take their soul elsewhere. This ability connects us to freedom, even in oppressive environments.✔️ Employ compassionate listening.Jack Saul shares his experience of helping children recover through theatrical improvisation. He explains that children need this opportunity to convey their stories to the public, acknowledging the events that happened in these children’s lives.✔️ Creativity is an active engagement with the unknown.Psychotherapist Esther Perel is the child of Holocaust survivors. She believes her parents worked hard to maintain a sense of aliveness - to establish a place of safety from which they could engage in joy, pleasure, and playfulness. ✔️ How you were loved can impact how you make love.Trauma constricts us from allowing intimate contact. It causes an involuntary recoil, and the mind no longer learns how to trust. Esther Perel explains her work as loosening up a person on every level - from body language to verbal communication. It’s her mission to teach trauma survivors to grant themselves permission to enjoy the emotional and physical satisfaction of their sexual relationships.✔️ New experiences change the meaning of the past.Survivors may shudder at a slight touch, as they have associated the feeling with a traumatic event. To progress in the healing process, they must experience pleasurable contact to erase the negative mental connection.---------------Psychotherapist and New York Times bestselling author, Esther Perel is recognized as one of today’s most insightful and original voices on modern relationships. Fluent in nine languages, she helms a therapy practice in New York City and serves as an organizational consultant for Fortune 500 companies around the world. Her celebrated TED talks have garnered more than 20 million views and her international bestseller Mating in Captivity: Unlocking Erotic Intelligence became a global phenomenon translated into 25 languages. Her newest book is the New York Times bestseller The State of Affairs: Rethinking Infidelity (HarperCollins).---------------Jack Saul is a licensed psychologist, practicing in Manhattan, New York. I trained at the Judge Baker Guidance Center, Harvard Medical School, the Cambridge Family Institute, and the Minuchin Center for the Family. He is a member of the American Family Therapy Academy and the Founding Director of the International Trauma Studies Program. He offers psychotherapy to individuals, couples, and families, and utilizes a family systems orientation emphasizing a narrative, dialogic, and resilience-based approach. His expertise is in working with individuals with relationship challenges, anxiety, depression, PTSD, trauma and traumatic loss, complicated grief, life and work stress, childhood fears and behavioral and academic difficulties, parenting, intimacy, desire, and sex in couples. ---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of...

28 Mar 20231h 15min

Thomas Hübl discusses the integration of East and West Germany to demonstrate society’s need for cultural learning spaces - places where people with different cultures and histories of trauma can gather to learn and exchange cultural data. He focuses on how trauma and fragmentation are perpetuated when these digestion spaces don’t exist, and how an integrated culture is better equipped to take on new challenges, like climate change.Key Points:03:02 Culture integration requires work04:12 Learning is data exchange07:37 Integration should be a collective ability10:03 Why countries must invest in cultural integration14:41 Creating collective spaces for sustainability16:08 Cultural learning makes us wiser---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:thomashuebl.comFacebookInstagramTwitterSign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comMentioned in this episode:Pulling the Thread Ad

21 Mar 202322min

Humiliation is reflected in most major historical events, especially in wars.Throughout the centuries, humans continue to be stuck in the same pattern of humiliation. And it has become even more significant in the present.Author and negotiation expert William Ury joins Thomas for their second conversation in a three-part series. They discuss how historical traumas contribute to current conflicts, including the ongoing war in Ukraine. William emphasizes the need for compassion, empathy, and inclusion in our individual and collective approaches to bringing about peace and positive change in the world.Tune in to learn more 🎬 watch the full episode of Point of Relation — Embracing Our Interconnected Humanity as an Antidote to War with William UryWhat You Will Discover: ✔️ The secret to peace is us. William Ury breaks down the importance of doing inner work, achieving more awareness and consciousness in the midst of conflict, and creating space for resolution and alternatives.✔️ In the present times of conflict, we need respect. We are all interdependent. By putting ourselves in other people’s shoes and showing positive intent, society can shift and create cycles of mutual respect and safety. ✔️ Force arises from humiliation, but genuine power emerges from humility. What causes humans to replicate the same patterns in history are our buried feelings of humiliation. The only way to break it is to respond in a skillful manner - showing up and remaining humble.✔️ Be a possibilist. Seeing only one side of the coin will never fully heal us from humiliation. The best way is to seek out potential - recognize both positive and negative possibilities so you can act accordingly and move the situation forward.✔️ The balcony perspective allows a deeper connection to the situation. Zooming out gives us the space to ask the right questions. “What’s going on here? Where are we getting stuck? How do we fix this?” Slowly, as we practice empathy, we can heal and rewrite the play in a more constructive direction.---------------William Ury is one of the world’s leading experts on negotiation and mediation. As the co-founder of the Program on Negotiation, he is a driving force behind many new negotiation theories and practices. Ury is the co-author with Roger Fisher and Bruce Patton of Getting to Yes, a 15-million-copy bestseller translated into more than 35 languages, and the author of several other books including the award-winning Getting to Yes with Yourself.Over the last four decades, Ury has served as a negotiation advisor and mediator in conflicts ranging from the Cold War to ethnic and civil wars in the Middle East, Chechnya, Yugoslavia, and most recently in Colombia. In addition to teaching negotiation and mediation to tens of thousands of executives, Ury is the founder of the Abraham Path Initiative, which seeks to bring people together across cultures by opening a long-distance walking route in the Middle East that retraces the footsteps of Abraham and his family. In recognition of his work, he has received the Cloke-Millen Peacemaker Award, the Whitney North Seymour Award from the American Arbitration Association, and the Distinguished Service Medal from the Russian Parliament.---------------Thomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book <a...

14 Mar 20231h 6min

Exploring the causes of sickness, author and renowned physician Dr. Gabor Maté explores how the trauma ingrained in modern society manifests as illness and pulls us away from our authentic selves, and how we can lessen our attachment to “normalcy” in order to foster both individual and collective healing and create a more equitable and awakened future.Tune in to Point of Relation — The Undeniable Link of Illness & Wellbeing to Our Collective Ecosystem with Dr. Gabor Maté.Key Points To Discover:✔️ In the revolutionary book "The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness and Healing in a Toxic Culture," Dr. Gabor Maté argues that our culture has become so disconnected from the real needs of people that what we assume to be "normal" is, in fact, neither healthy nor natural. Dr. Maté distinctly articulates that "normal" is a myth. He presents that every individual's response to conditions, such as addictions, depression, and physical illnesses, are, in fact, normal responses to the abnormal social and environmental conditions they face. Therefore, the conditions that are the source of the abnormality need to be addressed instead of the individual.✔️ We are co-creators of our reality.Connection is a necessity for human life that, when unfulfilled, brings about suffering. In the modern world, where we push and strive for the attainment of the individual, we must remember that we can only exist within the collective experience. ✔️ Do you feel that true healing is impossible for you? Dr. Maté shares that in his journey, he too believed that no matter how hard he tried, he was incapable of completely healing his pains. But he believes that healing is possible for all of us. In his words, “In order to accomplish that healing, we have to really come face to face with the depth and extent of the trauma in our world, not to despair over it, but precisely so that we can gain agency.”✔️ The illness of an individual is the manifestation of a collective phenomenon. When an individual becomes ill, the Lakota tradition teaches that the community extends gratefulness and that sickness manifests to uncover shared dysfunction. This gives way to the belief that "Your healing is our healing."Dr. Maté emphasizes the traditional wisdom that works with interdependent medicine is just as applicable to our modern world as it was in ancient times. Yet, sadly, medical practice often fails to acknowledge the science that confirms this.---------------Dr. Gabor Maté is an internationally renowned speaker highly sought after for his expertise on addiction, trauma, childhood development, and the relationship between stress and illness. He is a bestselling author of four books published in over thirty languages. His book on addiction received the Hubert Evans Prize for literary non-fiction.For his groundbreaking medical work and writing, he has been awarded the Order of Canada, his country's highest civilian distinction, and the Civic Merit Award from his hometown, Vancouver. His books include In the Realm of Hungry Ghosts: Close Encounters With Addiction; When the Body Says No; The Cost of Hidden Stress; Scattered Minds: The Origins and Healing of Attention Deficit Disorder; and (with Dr. Gordon Neufeld) Hold on to Your Kids: Why Parents Need to Matter More Than Peers. His recent book, The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness & Healing in a Toxic Culture, was released on September 13, 2022. His second next book, Hello Again: A Fresh Start for Parents and Their Adult Children, is expected in 2023. Gabor is also a co-developer of a therapeutic approach, Compassionate Inquiry, now studied by hundreds of therapists, physicians, counselors, and others...

7 Mar 202352min

As the world transitions away from domination hierarchies and into democracies, our human systems naturally let go of inner wounds and feel safer.However, disruptors still arise. Gender inequality and racism are stressors in our society. The tension over these issues can make our current democracy appear chaotic.But these systemic issues must surface and be addressed in order to ignite our individual and collective healing, and allow humanity to achieve a higher level of coherence.Key Points:04:38 Why detoxification is necessary07:59 The need for safe spaces11:18 Trauma and achieving coherence17:03 The power of collective intelligence18:30 The call for state-funded collective spaces20:01 Keeping the flow alive21:56 The Pocket Project---------------Sign up for updates by visiting our website:👉 pointofrelationpodcast.comThomas Hübl is a renowned teacher, author, and international facilitator whose lifelong work integrates the core insights of the great wisdom traditions and mysticism with the discoveries of science. Since 2004, he has taught and facilitated programs with more than 100,000 people worldwide, including online courses which he began offering in 2008. The origin of his work and more than two decades of study and practice on healing collective trauma is detailed in his book Healing Collective Trauma: A Process for Integrating Our Intergenerational and Cultural WoundsConnect with Thomas here:Website: https://thomashuebl.com/Facebook: https://facebook.com/Thomas.Huebl.Sangha/Instagram/Twitter: @thomashueblYouTube: https://youtube.com/@thomashueblGet to know The Pocket Project:👉 https://pocketproject.org/Mentioned in this episode:Pulling the Thread Ad

28 Feb 202326min

Are you brave enough to go beyond the threshold of conventional understanding? Would you be willing to go deeper into the unseen territory of humanity? Or do you just have burning questions about the meaning of life events?You’re in the right place. The Point of Relation is where you need to be to reach your contemplative perspective and uncover the layers of human existence.Tune in to learn more 🎬 watch the full episode of Point of Relation — Welcome to Point of RelationWhat You Will Discover: ✔️ Life is a constant process of finding out, like data streaming. It involves downloading information and processing it at the same time. Tapping into this ability leads us to the sweet spot of maturity. We start to relate every moment in our daily lives to our intelligence and compassion.✔️ Be inspired by special guests. This is your chance to hop into this meaningful space. Here, we get intimate with speakers of various expertise to dissect our common struggles and pressing life issues and discover answers to our existential curiosities.✔️ Answer life’s toughest questions. In difficult situations, distancing ourselves becomes our first move because we lack the skills to navigate through them. Let go of the fear of uncertainty. It’s time to walk closer to the drumbeat of life and discover the reality of our own becoming.✔️ We have the power to impact and co-design our world. Life has never been a walk in the park. Find out your true identity and shape amazing moments as you contribute to the nourishment of others. Be at the edge where life is most exciting.✔️ The point of relation is the alchemy of inspiration. Let’s create a space where we can work to address the current challenges of our world and the big wounds of our shared past. Ignite conversations where sparks fly, and enter into a field of resonance with others.✔️ Cultivate the process of inquiry. With contemplative and creative inquiry, we can deeply feel and think precisely with discernment and clarity. Learning isn’t simply reading about a subject. It also involves connecting ourselves to the knowledge that we’re absorbing.Sign up for updates by visiting our website: pointofrelationpodcast.com.Mentioned in this episode:Pulling the Thread Ad

21 Feb 202314min

What are legacy burdens?These are ingrained parts of us that involve extreme beliefs and emotions coming from traumatic experiences inherited from family or other people.This is mostly experienced by people in marginalized groups. And unpacking them takes courage, acknowledgment, and a safe space to open up.Listen as Dr. Richard Schwartz and Deran Young share their expertise and experiences in navigating through intergenerational trauma and un-learning past beliefs.▶️Unpacking Legacy Burdens through Collective Spaces with Deran Young & Dr. Richard SchwartzKey Points To Discover:✔️ Your trauma isn’t your identity. When your pained inner child starts to hijack your emotions, it’s important to separate it and allow your higher self to take over. “That one part of us doesn’t have to dominate our life,” Deran Young says.✔️Foster a culture of healing in shared spaces. While some are far in their journey of inner work, others still need an extra boost. What are the rules in the communal space? How do we respect each other? How do we honor our differences and similarities? It’s important for all to feel a sense of comfort and belonging when it’s time to unpack trauma.✔️ Identify your “exiles”. These vulnerable parts greatly impacted by trauma are called “exiles” – our spaces for creativity and desire that were hurt and are pushed away. This makes us feel like we’ve moved on. But in reality, these “exiles” still have an underground influence over our decisions and overall worldview.✔️ The best healing happens in collective spaces. It’s normal to feel alone when grappling with deep trauma. This is why Deran Young recommends looking for groups where you can share your experience and feel a sense of community. This is where people can start to acknowledge their trauma and speak more compassionately to themselves.✔️ Everyone deserves access to healing. Economically marginalized places may not have access to the tools needed to treat inner wounds. Forms of psychedelic-assisted therapy – trauma healing using natural resources from the land – have existed for generations. Each person in the world has the right to utilize it for their improvement.✔️Bring your exiled parts back home and reconnect. Dr. Richard Schwartz emphasizes that we shouldn’t disconnect these traumatized parts of ourselves, but rather recognize and acknowledge their presence for healing to take place.---------------Dr. Richard Schwartz began his career as a systemic family therapist and an academic. Grounded in systems thinking, Dr. Schwartz developed Internal Family Systems (IFS) in response to clients’ descriptions of various parts within themselves. He focused on the relationships among these parts and noticed that there were systemic patterns to the way they were organized across clients. He also found that when the clients’ parts felt safe and were allowed to relax, the clients would spontaneously experience the qualities of confidence, openness, and compassion that Dr. Schwartz came to call the Self. He found that when in that state of Self, clients would know how to heal their parts.A featured speaker for national professional organizations, Dr. Schwartz has published many books and over fifty articles about IFS.---------------Deran Young, LCSW, MPA, has served in the US Air Force for over sixteen years. She is a world traveler and has visited over thirty-two countries and provided counseling services in three different nations in Europe and Africa. Her clinical training and experiences have primarily focused on trauma, PTSD, depression, anxiety, child abuse, and domestic violence.Deran is the founder and CEO of Black Therapists Rock (BTR), an organization

21 Feb 20231h 6min