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Martin Shkreli, entrepreneur and investor, talks about what Sam Bankman-Fried’s potential life in prison could look like. As a former white-collar criminal, Martin had a lot to say about prison culture, how judge selection affects sentencing, and more. Show highlights: why Martin says that the prosecution part of the case is the most difficult to endure why he thought Sam had "no chance at bail" (although shortly after we recorded, news broke that Sam had been released on what is believed to be the largest bail bond ever – $250 million) whether SBF should plead guilty and hope to be favored by his cooperation what jails in New York are like and how the other inmates might treat SBF  whether SBF will be in danger if he goes to prison and Martin's suggestions for him if he wants to survive why the FTX's case is so unprecedented, especially considering the current sentencing guidelines Martin's take on Ronnie Abrams, the judge in charge of the case, and why her selection will be good for SBF whether Caroline Ellison made a mistake by pleading guilty to so many counts why Gary Wang would likely face a tough time in prison for ratting out SBF Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Martin: Socials Videos on SBF: Which Gang Will Sam Bankman Join In Prison? | Martin Shkreli Gives Prison Advice to FTX CEO My Boy Sam Bankman Is Facing Life in Jail for Sure | Martin Shkreli Predicts the FTX Court Hearing Episode Links CNBC: FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried to be released on $250 million bail, will live with his parents Unchained: Caroline Ellison and Gary Wang Plead Guilty and Are Cooperating in FTX Investigation SBF Signs Extradition Papers After 8 Nights in Bahamas Jail With AC and Cable TV CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment Bloomberg:  FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case Sam Bankman-Fried’s Harsh Bahamas Jail Could Shift His Stance on Extradition Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: The Chopping Block: Was FTX a Scam From the Very Beginning?  How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing?  Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Des 20221h 22min

What a year. Cobie, crypto investor and host of UpOnly, and Chris Burniske, partner at Placeholder Ventures, sift through 2022’s rubble for clues as to what lies ahead in 2023. The two bright lights of Crypto Twitter weigh in on SBF’s fraud, how to succeed through the bear market, and what remains promising despite the gloom and doom. Show highlights: why 2022 is “the hangover of 2021” why this year’s big meltdowns were different and dispiriting why it was actually a year to remind us of why we’re all here how the underlying protocols didn’t skip a beat how to survive the bear market what Chris feels guilty about in the wake of Alameda’s collapse why Cobie hopes SBF spends life in jail whether people will actually use decentralized alternatives – or if banking-like relationships will prevail what Chris sees as the 2023 version of proof-of-stake in 2017 why Cobie thinks bitcoin is an area of opportunity over the next few years whether the multichain thesis (“Solunavax”) will ever rise again whether the contagion is over if disgraced figureheads deserve a second chance a lightning round lookback on 2022 Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima DeFi Saver Guests: Cobie: Twitter Substack UpOnly Previous appearances on Unchained: Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets Cobie and Chris Burniske on How to Navigate a Crypto Bear Market Chris: Twitter Placeholder VC Previous appearances on Unchained: Chris Burniske: A Blank Slate of State Chris Burniske of Placeholder on the Downsides of ICOs The year in crypto: FTX Unchained: CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen Terra: CoinDesk: The Fall of Terra: A Timeline of the Meteoric Rise and Crash of UST and LUNA Three Arrows Capital CNBC’s full interview with Three Arrows Capital’s Kyle Davies on the downfall of the defunct crypto hedge fund CoinDesk: Three Arrows Capital Files for Bankruptcy in New York Tied to British Virgin Islands Proceeding DeCrypt: Bankrupt Three Arrows Capital Owes $3.5B to Creditors, Including $2.3B to Genesis Binance Unchained: Binance Passes Withdrawal ‘Stress Test’ After $3B in Daily Outflows Forbes: Kevin O’Leary Points Finger At Binance For FTX Crash In Senate Testimony Silvergate The Block: Silvergate CEO seeks to reassure investors over crypto contagion The Financial Times: Silvergate: from tiny local lender to bank behind the crypto boom Genesis/DCG:  Unchained:  Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Des 20221h 21min

Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, and Tarun Chitra were joined by Laura Shin to chop it up about the latest news. Show topics: the details of the SEC and CFTC complaints how crypto traders have always speculated about Alameda's preferential treatment whether many people knew about the mismanagement of funds and alleged fraud why Haseeb thinks SBF was a "f*cking psycho" how helpful Tarun believes a testimony from Sam Trabucco, former co-CEO of Alameda, would be why Alameda and FTX lost billions of dollars, and the poor diligence of SBF's venture investments Sam's "ineffective altruism"  why a bull market wouldn't have solved the insolvency problems of FTX whether SBF will fight extradition and how long it would take how Sam's consistent use of Facebook and his anti-Maker stand shows he was not a crypto-native why Laura thinks that The Block CEO's undisclosed loans represent a "total betrayal" Robert's take on the ineffectiveness of the government's control of information why Binance is under scrutiny and whether it's the "next FTX" Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Guest: Laura Shin, author, host of Unchained Episode Links FTX: Unchained:CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX SBF Denied Bail in The Bahamas, Will Remain in Fox Hill Prison Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment Bahamas Asked SBF to Mint Hundreds of Millions of Dollars’ Worth of New Tokens After Collapse, Say FTX Liquidators SBF Directed $8B Alameda Liabilities to an FTX Account He Called ‘Weird Korean,’ Says CFTC Forbes: Despite Boasting Of Big Profits, FTX And Alameda Lost $3.7 Billion Before 2022 Bloomberg: FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case Sam Bankman-Fried’s Harsh Bahamas Jail Could Shift His Stance on Extradition Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX:How Much Prison Time Is FTX’s Sam Bankman-Fried Facing? Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Binance: Unchained: Binance Passes Withdrawal ‘Stress Test’ After $3B in Daily Outflows Forbes: Kevin O’Leary Points Finger At Binance For FTX Crash In Senate Testimony The Block Unchained: The Block CEO Steps Down After Revealing He Was Secretly Funded By SBF Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Des 20221h 9min

Ari Redbord, head of legal and government affairs at TRM Labs, discusses all the charges that Sam Bankman-Fried is facing and their potential outcomes.  Show highlights: the charges against SBF and why the criminal indictment is the most important whether SBF testifying in Congress would have complicated the DOJ's criminal case against him why it is complicated to state how much prison time Sam is facing the ways in which Bankman-Fried can reduce his sentence by cooperating with authorities why it's so unprecedented that the indictment came only one month after the collapse of FTX whether other senior FTX executives are providing prosecutors with information to reduce their charges the reasons why SBF is being held in The Bahamas and the likelihood of him being extradited how much the case will be delayed if SBF's lawyers fight the extradition Ari's thoughts on whether this case will go to trial Take Unchained's 2022 survey!   Unchained is doing its annual survey. Tell us how you think we’re doing and how we could improve, whether it be on the podcast, in the newsletter, or in our premium offering. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Guest Ari: Twitter Previous appearances on Unchained:  Is TRM Labs Blocking Addresses From DeFi Protocols? Ari Redbord Says No  Episode Links Unchained: CFTC and SEC File Damning Complaints Against Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX SBF Denied Bail in The Bahamas, Will Remain in Fox Hill Prison Former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried Arrested Amid US Indictment Bahamas Asked SBF to Mint Hundreds of Millions of Dollars’ Worth of New Tokens After Collapse, Say FTX Liquidators SBF Directed $8B Alameda Liabilities to an FTX Account He Called ‘Weird Korean,’ Says CFTC Bloomberg: FTX Bankruptcy Standoff Heats Up as Bahamas Challenges US Case Sam Bankman-Fried’s Harsh Bahamas Jail Could Shift His Stance on Extradition Fortune: Sam Bankman-Fried indicted on multiple conspiracy and fraud charges by U.S. officials The Enron Trial: A Chronology Previous coverage of Unchained on Sam Bankman-Fried and FTX: Why the Legal Process for FTX and Sam Bankman-Fried Could Take Years The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

16 Des 202241min

Ram Ahluwalia, CEO and cofounder of crypto-native investment advisor Lumida, and Marc Cohodes, individual investor and former hedge fund manager, have a heated debate about Silvergate, a crypto-friendly bank that plays a key role in integrating crypto with traditional finance and is currently under scrutiny due to its ties with FTX and Alameda. Both Marc and Ram have a vested interest in Silvergate. Marc is shorting the stock, while Ram is longing it.   Show highlights: why Silvergate plays such a vital role in the movement of money within the crypto industry whether Silvergate runs proper KYC and AML practices whether Silvergate has a $1 billion hole in its balance sheet whether regulators will go after Silvergate as they are doing with FTX why Marc thinks the FTX collapse wouldn't have happened without Silvergate  whether Silvergate was complicit with FTX’s activities or simply negligent  why Ram believes this case is different from JPMorgan's involvement with Madoff  what regulatory actions might come in the near future for Silvergate  why Ram thinks regulators will go to "great lengths" to avoid a bank failure what would it take for Ram and Marc to change their minds   Take Unchained's 2022 survey!   Unchained is doing its annual survey. Tell us how you think we’re doing and how we could improve, whether it be on the podcast, in the newsletter, or in our premium offering. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima DeFi Saver  Guests: Ram: Twitter Ram’s thread on Silvergate Ram’s previous appearances on Unchained: Genesis May Be Facing Bankruptcy. Could It Take DCG Down With It? Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid Marc: Twitter   Episode links: Class action lawsuit against Silvergate The Block: Silvergate CEO seeks to reassure investors over crypto contagion Letter from Senators Elizabeth Warren, John Kennedy, and Roger Marshall The Guardian: JP Morgan Chase to pay more than $2bn in penalties for Madoff ties The Financial Times: Silvergate: from tiny local lender to bank behind the crypto boom WSJ: Crypto Is Taking a Few Small Banks on a Wild Ride Bloomberg:  These Banks Were Left Holding the Bag in Crypto Implosion An Obscure Bank Found Its Key to Success. Then FTX Collapsed CoinDesk: Crypto Bank Silvergate Says Its BlockFi Digital-Asset Deposit Exposure Totals Less Than $20M New York Post: Crypto ‘smart’ money? Big traders fell for Sam Bankman-Fried NBC: Sen. Warren demands answers from Silvergate Bank about its business dealings with FTX Dylan LeClair’s Twitter thread Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

13 Des 20221h 14min

TuongVy Le, partner and head of regulatory & policy at Bain Capital Crypto, discusses how the legal process for Sam Bankman-Fried in the wake of the FTX scandal could play out.  Show highlights: the allegations that Bankman-Fried manipulated the market during the Terra crash the motivations for Bankman-Fried's media appearances what the selection of Mark Cohen as a lawyer says about the potential charges and the case why SBF hasn't been arrested yet how the US investigating the potential involvement of Bahamian government officials could complicate cooperation of an arrest of SBF in the Bahamas why this case is very different from Bernie Madoff's what evidence would be needed to say, legally, that SBF committed fraud the potential outcomes of the legal case for SBF and how many years of prison time he could face Take Unchained's 2022 survey!   Unchained is doing its annual survey. Tell us how you think we’re doing and how we could improve, whether it be on the podcast, in the newsletter, or in our premium offering. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com TuongVy : Twitter Episode Links FTX: Unchained: Regulators Investigate Sam Bankman-Fried for Terra-Related Market Manipulation Sam Bankman-Fried Hires Ghislaine Maxwell’s Defense Lawyer: Report Investigations:  Reuters: U.S. authorities probe FTX collapse, executives' involvement -sources CoinDesk: California Financial Regulator Announces FTX Investigation Others: CNBC: Former OpenSea employee charged in first-ever NFT insider trading case NYT:  Ex-Coinbase Employee and 2 Others Charged With Insider Trading of Crypto Assets Two former Deutsche Bank traders win their appeal in a Libor manipulation case Previous coverage of Unchained on FTX: The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He? Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

9 Des 202245min

Ram Ahluwalia, CEO and co-founder of crypto-native investment advisor Lumida, and Samuel Andrew, crypto author and analyst, talk about the financial situation at Genesis and parent company Digital Currency Group (DCG). The collapse of FTX has dealt crypto lender Genesis another major blow, with the firm halting withdrawals and DCG stepping in to help. Now the two face a range of suboptimal outcomes in the face of massive debts. Ahluwalia and Andrew discuss what could come next, and what should be learned from the recent debacles.  Show highlights: why Genesis and DCG are so important for the crypto sector Ram's explanation of the "Grayscale trade" and why it is relevant to understand the current crisis the ghost of Three Arrows Capital and the origins of Genesis' problems why Sam thinks Genesis was "reckless" in its loan underwriting what a spot Bitcoin ETF would mean for Grayscale's revenue what options Genesis and DCG have to weather the storm whether it makes sense for Genesis to file for bankruptcy why Ram thinks Genesis lending product needs to be be shut down why Gemini and its Earn program loom large in the Genesis situation the risks of enforcement action from regulators what the most likely outcome is for Genesis and DCG and whether creditors will be made whole whether there will be broader contagion stemming from Genesis and what other crypto companies could be in trouble the problems of leverage and why crypto's "shadow banks" need regulation     Take Unchained's 2022 survey!   Unchained is doing its annual survey. Tell us how you think we’re doing and how we could improve, whether it be on the podcast, in the newsletter, or in our premium offering. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts!  Thank you to our sponsors! Crypto.com Chainalysis Minima   Ram: Twitter Ram’s thread on GBTC Previous Unchained episodes: Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid Sam: Twitter Substack     Episode Links   Genesis: Unchained:  Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M The Block: DCG CEO Barry Silbert updates shareholders, says company will emerge 'stronger' Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis: ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis Adam Cochran on Why Crypto Prices Will Be Down Bad for the Next Six Months Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? The Chopping Block: SBF Wants to Win in the Court of Public Opinion. Will He?   FT: Crypto broker Genesis owes Winklevoss exchange’s customers $900mn   WSJ: Rising Tether Loans Add Risk to Stablecoin, Crypto World Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

6 Des 20221h 18min

Welcome to The Chopping Block! Crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Robert Leshner, Tom Schmidt, and Tarun Chitra chop it up about the latest news.  Show topics: highlights of Sam Bankman-Fried's interview with the New York Times whether SBF knew what was going on in his companies, and how that impacts potential prosecution why Genesis and DCG are in financial trouble whether Genesis will file for bankruptcy or go through a restructuring process revelations from BlockFi's bankruptcy filing new info on why FTX bailed out BlockFi last summer what is going on with Binance’s recovery fund  how Avi Eisenberg tried to pull off an attack on Aave  how the banking industry works and whether Changpeng Zhao is the closest thing to a central bank in crypto how DeFi responds in a crisis, and how it contrasts with CeFi’s recent implosions Hosts Haseeb Qureshi, managing partner at Dragonfly Capital Tarun Chitra, managing partner at Robot Ventures Robert Leshner, founder of Compound  Tom Schmidt, general partner at Dragonfly Capital Episode Links FTX: Unchained: FTX Bankruptcy Overseer Says Company’s Collapse Is Worst He’s Ever Seen NYT: Sam Bankman-Fried’s interview Bill Ackman’s tweet Interview with Tiffany Fong Previous coverage of Unchained on FTX: Jesse Powell and Kevin Zhou on How FTX and Alameda Lost $10 Billion Is the Collapse of Crypto Lending Over, or Is It Just Starting? Did the Bahamian Government Direct SBF and Gary Wang to Hack FTX? The Chopping Block: Why Lenders Didn’t Liquidate Alameda When It Was Underwater  Erik Voorhees and Cobie on Why FTX Loaned Out Customers’ Assets The Chopping Block: FTX: The Biggest Collapse in the History of Crypto? Sam Bankman-Fried on How to Prevent the Next Terra and 3AC BlockFi:  Unchained: Crypto Lender BlockFi Files for Bankruptcy as FTX’s Contagion Effects Continue Decrypt: FTX, Alameda Owe BlockFi More Than $1 Billion: Court Hearing Genesis: Ryan Selkis’ tweet on Genesis Unchained:  Genesis Warns of Bankruptcy If Funding Plans Fail: Report On-chain Analysts ID 432 GBTC Addresses After Grayscale Says No to Proof-of-Reserves WSJ: Crypto Lender Genesis Asks Binance and Apollo for Cash Decrypt: Digital Currency Group Says No Imminent Threat Despite Owing Genesis $575M Previous coverage of Unchained on Genesis: Why Genesis Could Very Well Be Insolvent, Not Just Illiquid ‘The Last Big Whale’: Why the Crypto Contagion of 2022 Eventually Hit Genesis DeFi Pancakeswap flipped Uniswap in TVL Unchained:  Mango Markets Exploiter Gets Liquidated But Leaves Aave With ‘Excess Debt’ Aave Freezes 17 Low-Liquidity V2 Pools and Votes to Migrate 26 Assets to Ethereum V3 Compound Finance Slashes Borrow Caps for 10 Markets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

3 Des 202251min