COVID cases rising: Are the new sub-variants enough to change anything?

COVID cases are rising in some parts of the UK for the first time in two months, but the health secretary, Sajid Javid, has declared the country is now ‘properly post-pandemic'. On the Sky News Daily podcast, Leah Boleto speaks to Sky’s science and technology editor, Tom Clarke, and virologist Dr Stephen Griffin about the impact a new wave could have on our plans for living with COVID. Producer - Rosie Gillott Editor - Paul Stanworth Interviews producer – Madeleine Drury