Keeping a Hand on the Wagon

A story of calm confidence, healing, and letting go of perfection.

Episode #233

What happens when you stop chasing perfection and start trusting your body? In this heartfelt conversation, Audrey shares with Coach Lisa how she moved from fear and confusion to calm confidence by embracing nourishment, community, and self-compassion.

Audrey's journey reminds us that fasting isn't just about hours — it's about listening to your body, releasing perfectionism, and keeping "a hand on the wagon," even when life gets messy.

What you'll learn:

• Why fasting alone wasn't enough for Audrey
• The mindset shift that helped her release perfectionism
• How she advocated for herself through confusing medical advice
• The practices that improved her sleep, confidence, and cardiac markers
• How she navigates social eating, travel, and cravings with ease

Books mentioned in this episode:

• The Paleo Cure — Chris Kresser
• Adrenal Transformation Protocol — Izabella Wentz
• Fast Like a Girl — Dr. Mindy Pelz

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⏱️ Timestamps

00:00 Introduction

00:21 Audrey's backstory & early fasting attempts

01:26 Heart-health fears and statin pressure

03:10 Why fasting alone wasn't working

04:26 Joining TFM & shifting her approach to nourishment

05:01 The statin conversation & advocating for herself

07:08 Improvements in A1c, triglycerides & confidence

09:20 Cardiac testing results & reducing medications

11:08 The biggest surprise: calm, freedom, and mindset shifts

13:14 "Hand on the wagon" — Audrey's powerful analogy

16:22 Hunger waves & reframing discomfort

18:41 Energy, sleep, and positive influence on friends

20:55 Navigating social events & travel with TRE

23:54 Managing a cruise without derailing progress

26:24 Goals ahead: autoimmune health & elimination diets

28:23 Self-advocacy and working effectively with doctors

30:35 Community language, inside jokes & belonging

31:40 Fasting apps, perfectionism & releasing harsh self-judgment

32:53 Closing reflections & encouragement

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