194. Roch Theriault and Ant Hill Kids Cult

194. Roch Theriault and Ant Hill Kids Cult

*****CONTENT WARNING*****In 1984, the beautiful, tranquil area of Burnt River in Ontario, Canada, attracted the attention of the free-spirited, organic-food-growing faith community called the Ant Hill Kids. Along an isolated road on August 16th, 1989, it was here that a member of that faith community hitch-hiked her way to a hospital, protecting the stump that used to be her right arm. A former nurse herself, Gabrielle Lavallee knew only too well the horrors that could befall an untreated amputation. But any horror that could result from rampant infection was mild compared to the horror she’d already endured.Gabrielle, determined to leave the "utopian" community behind, eventually spilled her story to the police. Gabrielle had existed in conditions far from utopian. She had been living in an absolute sadistic hellscape, controlled and manipulated by the Ant Hill Kids leader, a Quebec man named Roch Theriault. Join Jen and Cam as we discuss a case that is so heinous and bizarre that if it were a work of fiction, the author would be taken to task for making up such an unbelievable story.If you or any loved ones need help with either leaving a cult or are in need of therapy to recover from your experiences, you can visit the International Cultic Studies Association’s website at https://www.icsahome.com/supportPromo by Tales From the Darkside. Be sure to check out Season 5Thank you to Edward October for the Listener Discretion. Check out his YouTube ChannelNico at We Talk of Dreams for editing and theme.Lauretta Allen for research and writingSources:https://www.newspapers.com/image/466768310/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/743679526/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/50184105/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/730036276/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/743686544/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503365026/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503737823/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/423673939/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/733562728/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503747306/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/423672635/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/735333684/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://www.newspapers.com/image/503992547/?terms=Roch%20Theriault&match=1https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roch_Th%C3%A9riaulthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOobUNHNVchttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1vnaYiNH-ohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wBXOkcvhDg&t=889shttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cw8Xeb3zFYhttps://morbidology.com/the-ant-hill-kids/https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/canadian-messiah-formed-doomsday-cult-ulcer-problems-article-1.3797931https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/crimefeed/murder/roch-theriault-the-horrifying-savagery-home-surgery-of-canadas-most-violent-cult-leaderhttps://www.namnab.com/post/the-canadian-cult-you-ve-never-heard-of-the-ant-hill-kidshttps://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/chilling-insight-doomsday-cult-members-13995059https://archive.macleans.ca/article/1983/1/10/the-reactionary-face-of-catholicism Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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.22 Caliber Killer: Joseph Christopher (Day 12) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

.22 Caliber Killer: Joseph Christopher (Day 12) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Just 3 years after the Son of Sam murders had terrorized New York, Buffalo was hit with the same kind of surprise attack killer, but this murderer preferred killing black men.With 3 different MOs, and 2 different monikers, FBI profiler John Douglas was brought in.Come join Jen & Cam as we discuss the .22 Caliber KillerListener Discretion by the utterly amazing Edward October @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio stylings by our Producer Nico @wetalkofdreams. We would be lost without him. Really.Sources:https://www.nytimes.com/1981/05/16/nyregion/buffalo-suspect-s-friends-are-mystified.html?pagewanted=allhttps://the-line-up.com/catherine-pelonero-interviewhttps://www.crimetraveller.org/2017/11/absolute-madness-book-review-author-interview/https://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/96/joseph-christopherhttps://www.imdb.com/title/tt0574705/?ref_=ttep_ep18https://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/christopher-joseph.htmhttps://www.criminallyintrigued.com/blog/2018/3/24/the-killer-with-two-names-joseph-christopherhttps://www.wgrz.com/article/news/crime/new-book-about-wny-22-caliber-killer/315287587 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

24 Dec 201938min

Easter Sunday Massacre 12 Nightmares Before Christmas (Day 11)

Easter Sunday Massacre 12 Nightmares Before Christmas (Day 11)

On Easter Sunday, families gather to celebrate with family and friends. They enjoy the traditional ham dinner with all the trimmings and attend service to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. It is a time to be together with those you love and cherish but for James Ruppert, it was something much different. As we have learned, often things look different on the outside than on the inside and sometimes they are not at all what they seemed. Join Jen and Cam on day 11 of the 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss Easter Sunday Massacre. Always angelic Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS did that swell listener discretion at the top of the show. All music and editing is brought to you by our naughty but nice Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.americanhauntingsink.com/easterhttps://www.journal-news.com/news/parole-for-james-ruppert-easter-mass-murder/yjmZrzIYnNUZ2YHFbN90bL/https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/james-ruppert-easter-sunday-massacre-hamilton-woman-copes-with-living-in-a-murder-househttps://murderpedia.org/male.R/r/ruppert-james.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

23 Dec 201934min

South African Killer Cannibal Stewart Wilken AKA Boetie Boer (Day 10) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

South African Killer Cannibal Stewart Wilken AKA Boetie Boer (Day 10) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Most serial killers have a certain type of victim. Ted Bundy liked to kill women with long, straight, dark hair. John Wayne Gacy liked young men between the ages fo 16 and 19. Gary Rdgeway preferred female sex workers and young runaways.Stewart Wilken was different. He killed female sex workers and young boys living on the street.Come join Jen and Cam as they talk about one of South Africa's serial killer and what he liked to call the 'jellybean effect'Edward October @octoberpodvhs lends his fabulous voice to out listener discretionNico @wetalkofdreams is our lovely producer and handles all the music, sound and editing.Sources;http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/north-harbour-news/696177/Story-of-a-serial-killerhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stewart_Wilkenhttps://books.google.com/books?id=s7cEAQAAIAAJhttps://books.google.com/books?id=oN_QKBYvSloC&pg=PA344https://murderpedia.org/male.W/w/wilken-stewart.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

22 Dec 201936min

The Broomstick Killer (Day 9)-12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Broomstick Killer (Day 9)-12 Nightmares Before Christmas

On August 6, 1966, Kenneth McDuff and Roy Dale Green spent the day working for Kenneth’s dad pouring concrete. When they finished for the day they decided to go out and drive around and ‘look for a girl.’ Sadly they would come upon three teens and commit an unthinkable act. At 10 pm that night, 17-year-old Robert Brand, 16-year-old Edna Louise Sullivan who was Robert’s GF, and Robert’s 15-year-old cousin Mark Dunman just hanging out in Everman, Texas when McDuff noticed Edna Sullivan. He pulls up alongside the teens, pulls a .38 Colt revolver and ordered them to get into the trunk of their car. Join Jen and Cam on this day 9 of 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss The Broomstick Killer.Seasonal Listener Discretion is by the Magical Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS.All music/ editing is courtesy of our Christmas Angel, Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.texasmonthly.com/articles/free-to-kill-2/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_McDuffhttps://www.amazon.com/Bad-Boy-Kenneth-Notorious-History/dp/0312981252https://www.mariomadridlawfirm.com/kenneth-mcduff-the-serial-killer-sentenced-to-death-and-then-released-on-parole/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

21 Dec 201935min

The Boozing Barber: Gilbert Paul Jordan (Day 8) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The Boozing Barber: Gilbert Paul Jordan (Day 8) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

We've talked about hundreds of killers and the weapons they use. Guns, knives, bombs, ligatures. This list goes on. Well, today we add a new method of murder.Gilbert Paul Gilbert's MO was to force alcohol down women's throats.Join Cam & Jen as they discuss Canada's Boozing Barber: Gilbert Paul JordanListener discretion by OTCPs bestie Edward Ocotber @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio Stylings by OTCPs Producer, St Nico, Patron Saint of SoundSources:https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/the-history-of-gilbert-paul-jordanhttp://mysteryrepeatsitself.blogspot.com/2018/11/the-boozing-barber-gilbert-paul-jordan.htmlhttp://dyingwords.net/gilbert-paul-jordan-the-boozing-barber-serial-killer/http://www.firstnationsdrum.com/2009/04/gilbert-paul-jordan-the-boozing-barber/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Paul_Jordanhttps://murderpedia.org/male.J/j/jordan-gilbert-paul.htmhttps://killer.cloud/serial-killers/show/166/gilbert-paul-jordan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

20 Dec 201933min

Dirty Diana: When A Mom Murders (Day 7) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Dirty Diana: When A Mom Murders (Day 7) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Many women dream of becoming mothers and are so excited when they finally get to welcome a little bundle of joy into this world. Often couples struggle to conceive and spend lots of money trying to make their dreams of becoming parents a reality. For one mother, conceiving a child was the easy part but seeing them live past their fourth birthday was another matter. It's day 7 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas and Jen and Cam will discuss Dirty Diana on this episode of Our True Crime Podcast.Special seasonal listener discretion by the ever so merriful Edward October from @octoberpodvhs.The jazzy music and the amazing editing is all done by our Christmas miracle, Nico @wetalkofdreams.Sources:https://www.gcpolice.org/about-gcpd/history/famous-cases/diana-lumbrera-murdershttps://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-01-06-mn-10615-story.htmlhttps://www.texastribune.org/library/data/texas-prisons/inmates/diana-l-lumbrera/1146416/https://murderpedia.org/female.L/l/lumbrera-diana.htm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

19 Dec 201931min

The XBox Murders (Day 6) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

The XBox Murders (Day 6) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

These senseless murders were so violent, the court has barred the crime scene photos from ever being seen outside the courtroom.Join Jen and Cam as the discuss the events that led upto The XBox Murders.Listener Discretion by Edward October @octoberpodvhsMusic and audio styling my Nico @wetalkofdreamsResearch and writer for this episode is Lana McCallSourceshttps://www.orlandoweekly.com/orlando/the-killer-inside/Content?oid=2274001https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2004-08-11-0408110108-story.htmlhttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/firings-in-xbox-murders-aftermath/https://www.investigationdiscovery.com/tv-shows/the-real-story-with-maria-elena-salinas/full-episodes/the-deltona-massacrehttps://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/xbox-murders-6-fla-slain-game-article-1.590944http://onlinedocketssc.flcourts.org/DocketResults/CaseByYear?CaseNumber=1285&CaseYear=2017https://www.news-journalonline.com/news/20180810/14-years Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

18 Dec 201937min

Dr. Who? The Tall Tale of Jean-Claude Romand (Day 5) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

Dr. Who? The Tall Tale of Jean-Claude Romand (Day 5) 12 Nightmares Before Christmas

How many times in your head have you thought about being someone? Like a famous actress? An award winning author? A huge sports star? Today’s story is just that. It reads like a dramatic movie plot featuring Leo DiCaprio as the handsome young doctor who worked hard in the healthcare field, saving lives by the day and discovering the cure for cancer at night. The difference is that Jean-Claude Romand is no Leo and well, actually he is not a lot of things and that is where all the trouble begins.Join Jen and Cam on day 5 of The 12 Nightmares Before Christmas as we discuss the crazy tale of Dr. Who? on Our True Crime Podcast. Seasonal Listener Discretion is by the Magical Edward OctoberpodVHS @octoberpodVHS.All music/ editing is courtesy of our Christmas Angel, Nico from @wetalkofdreams.Sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-48790276https://www.france24.com/en/20190628-notorious-french-doctor-who-killed-family-released-abbeyhttps://www.newser.com/story/277129/free-after-26-years-guy-who-killed-wife-kids-parents.htmlhttps://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/notorious-french-medical-impostor-and-killer-to-be-freed-lawyer-11479030 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

17 Dec 201942min

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