Third Wave of Psychedelics with Paul. F Austin

In this episode of Ayahuasca Podcast host Sam Believ (founder of www.lawayra.com) has a conversation with Paul F. Austin. Paul is a leading pioneer in the modern psychedelic movement, founder of Third Wave, author of Mastering Microdosing, host of The Psychedelic Podcast, and head of the Psychedelic Coaching Institute. He focuses on psychedelic education, microdosing protocols, and training practitioners to help scale the responsible use of these medicines in the modern world.

We touch upon topics of

• 00:01–00:44 Introduction to Paul F. Austin and his work

• 00:44–03:14 Paul’s early LSD experiences and conservative upbringing

• 03:14–04:17 First microdosing protocol and founding Third Wave

• 04:18–07:08 Convincing his parents and guiding his dad through a mushroom journey

• 07:09–10:01 Parent–child healing and psychedelic experiences together

• 10:02–13:29 The “third wave” of psychedelics explained (indigenous → LSD era → today)

• 13:30–15:45 Microdosing as the safest path to legalization and cultural acceptance

• 15:46–17:29 Stepwise dosing and retreat philosophies

• 17:30–20:16 Why different psychedelics require different approaches

• 20:17–22:09 Psilocybin tolerance and retreat spacing strategies

• 22:10–27:29 Microdosing LSD vs psilocybin vs wachuma

• 27:30–30:48 Vine-only microdosing and adaptogenic effects

• 30:49–35:34 Psychedelics vs SSRIs and the “crutch” metaphor

• 35:35–41:39 Importance of psychedelic education and practitioner training

• 41:40–45:38 Addiction, cannabis dependence, and integration

• 45:39–49:15 “CEO medicine” and psychedelics for conscious leadership

• 49:16–52:27 What Paul is excited about in 2026 and the future of psychedelics

If you would like to attend one of our Ayahuasca retreats go to www.lawayra.com

Find more about Paul F. Austin at thethirdwave.co and follow him on social media at @PaulAustin3W