Self-Storage vs. Other CRE Assets – What's the Better Bet?

Self-Storage vs. Other CRE Assets – What's the Better Bet?

Season 3, Episode 5: Brian Cohen, CEO of Andover Properties, joins the show for a candid deep dive into how he scaled a self-storage empire and why the best buying opportunities today are in the asset classes no one wanted a decade ago. From distressed storage deals and long lease-ups to launching a credit platform with Angelo Gordon, Brian breaks down what makes Andover different and why data, automation, and institutional discipline give them a lasting edge. We discuss: – Why self-storage outperformed during the GFC – How lease-up timelines have doubled post-COVID – What most operators miss about private credit – Wild stories from inside storage units Brian also shares why he avoids third-party management, what makes below-replacement-cost deals so compelling, and how Andover uses AI to make smarter decisions across all verticals. TOPICS 00:00 – Intro and Sleep Tech Rant 02:00 – From Tishman Speyer to Self-Storage 06:00 – Lack of Sophistication in Early Storage Industry 10:00 – Lease-Up Timelines and Developer Distress 14:30 – Loan Acquisitions and Launching a Lending Platform 19:00 – Why They Avoid Third-Party Management 22:30 – Drug Busts, Guns, and Other Storage Finds 26:00 – The Car Wash Thesis and Token Economics 30:00 – AI Tools and Andover’s Data Strategy 34:00 – Buying 50% Below Replacement Cost 38:00 – Cycle Outlook and What’s Next for Andover Shoutout to our sponsor, InvestNext. One platform to raise and manage capital for real estate investment. For more episodes of No Cap by CRE Daily visit https://www.credaily.com/podcast/ Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoCapCREDaily About No Cap Podcast Commercial real estate is a $20 trillion industry and a force that shapes America’s economic fabric and culture. No Cap by CRE Daily is the commercial real estate podcast that gives you an unfiltered ”No Cap” look into the industry’s biggest trends and the money game behind them. Each week co-hosts Jack Stone and Alex Gornik break down the latest headlines with some of the most influential and entertaining figures in commercial real estate. About CRE Daily CRE Daily is a digital media company covering the business of commercial real estate. Our mission is to empower professionals with the knowledge they need to make smarter decisions and do more business. We do this through our flagship newsletter (CRE Daily) which is read by 65,000+ investors, developers, brokers, and business leaders across the country. Our smart brevity format combined with need-to-know trends has made us one of the fastest growing media brands in commercial real estate.

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28 Juni 47min

Presidium: Lessons from Managing 20,000 Units across Multiple Real Estate Cycles w/ John Griggs

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Season 8, Episode 1: How did two lawyers turn a handful of Arizona fourplexes into a vertically integrated real estate powerhouse with over 20,000 units renovated? Today, we sit down with John Griggs...

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Season 7, Episode 6: How did a former real estate analyst turn the pain of building pitch decks into one of CRE's fastest-growing AI companies? Today, we sit down with Sammy Greenwall, co-founder and...

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Betting On Middle America w/ RREAF Holdings

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