230: The Bitter Truth About Belgian Beer With Nino Bacelle of De Ranke
Craft Beer & Brewing Magazine Podcast18 Mars 2022

230: The Bitter Truth About Belgian Beer With Nino Bacelle of De Ranke

When Nino Bacelle and Guido Devos started homebrewing together in the 80’s, Belgian beer was in the midst of a sea change. Consolidation was afoot as larger industrial breweries swallowed up smaller concerns, while an earlier generation of brewers had reached retirement age with few of the younger generation interested in carrying on the brewing tradition. The beers that they loved and grew up drinking were disappearing—subsumed by a wave of sweeter mass-produced crowd-pleasing beers. To be fair, there were (and continue to be) some historical holdouts. But generally speaking, bitterness was slowly leaving the lexicon of Belgian brewing. Bacelle, who grew up around beer (his father was a guezesteker, or blender, but did not brew), longed for the beers he had tasted growing up. Together with homebrewing partner Devos, he decided to launch a beer brand, De Ranke (https://www.deranke.be), to address the opportunity they saw in the market for beer that embraced bitterness. First was their Guldenberg Tripel, followed closely by what is now considered a paragon of hop-forward beer, the aptly named XX Bitter. Today, these beers feel familiar, but they were groundbreaking in their time and remain somewhat unique today due to the peculiarities of De Ranke’s process. In this episode, Bacelle explains that process and more, including: The challenges of buying and brewing with whole cone hops Working with growers to source local Belgian hops Understanding the qualitative difference between whole cone and pellet hops Brewing with a kettle purposely designed for whole cone hops Using closed fermentation vessels to mimic open fermentation Two-stage cellaring with a free-rise fermentation followed by a cooler secondary fermentation then bottle conditioning Stylistic changes over time in classic Belgian abbey styles Differences in hop terroir De Ranke’s blended approach to acid-forward beer And more. “The Belgian public is so used to sweetness from all the industrial beers they know,” says Bacelle. “Sweetness is easy selling, and bitterness needs a public that is more aware … and is willing to experience other tastes.” *This episode is brought to you by: * G&D Chillers (https://gdchillers.com): What if you could chill your beer with a more efficient chiller? The Answer? G&D Chillers new Micro Channel Condensers! G&D’s Micro Channel Condensers are highly efficient in hotter regions, use a fraction of the refrigerant over traditional chillers which provides less opportunity for leaks along with lower global warming potential. G&D Chillers’ Engineers are committed to green technology design, while developing a more energy efficient chiller for the brewing industry. Contact G&D Chillers today at gdchillers.com (https://gdchillers.com) BSG (https://go.bsgcraft.com/Contact-Us) This episode brought to you by BSG and Rahr Malting Co., the home of fossil-free malt. Rahr’s headquarters in Shakopee, Minnesota is powered by renewable electricity. Malthouses and kilns are fed by an electrostatic boiler fueled by agricultural byproducts, much of which is waste from the malting process. By eliminating the use of natural gas, Rahr Malting Co. reduces CO2 emissions by 260,000 tons per year while filling 25% of the US brewing industry’s malt needs. Put the power of Rahr Malt in your beer at go.bsgcraft.com/Contact-Us (https://go.bsgcraft.com/Contact-Us) Old Orchard (https://www.oldorchard.com/brewer): Looking for innovation in your next beverage break-through? Think outside the purée box and let your brand stand out with Old Orchard's craft concentrate blends. Even smoothie seltzers can benefit from the extra boost of flavor and color. Old Orchard is based in the Greater Grand Rapids, Michigan area—also known as Beer City, USA—and supplies craft beverage categories ranging from beer, wine, and cider to seltzer, spirits, and kombucha. To join the core of Old Orchard's brewing community, learn more at oldorchard.com/brewer (https://www.oldorchard.com/brewer) Precision Fermentation (https://precisionfermentation.com/brewing): BrewMonitor, from Precision Fermentation, is the first real-time, comprehensive fermentation monitoring solution. It works with your existing fermentation tanks to track dissolved oxygen, pH, gravity, pressure, temperature, and conductivity in real-time, from any smartphone, tablet, or PC. BrewMonitor provides detailed insight into your fermentations that helps improve beer consistency, reduce tank-time, and increase overall efficiency–saving your brewery time and money. Get started for 30 days, risk-free. Visit precisionfermentation.com/brewing (https://precisionfermentation.com/brewing). Ss Brewtech (https://www.ssbrewtech.com): From the rotatable pick-up tube on Rogue Brewing's pilot brewhouse to the integrated hopbacks on Sierra Nevada's twin prototyping brewhouses, Ss Brewtech has taken technology they invented working with world-renowned industry veterans and made them available to every craft brewer. To learn more about Ss Brewtech's innovation list, head over to SsBrewtech.com (https://www.ssbrewtech.com) Hop Revolution (https://www.hoprevolution.co.nz): If you’re looking for a direct partnership with an independent hop grower who is as fanatical about flavour and quality as you are, join the revolution! Hop Revolution’s only reason for being is sustainably farming and processing New Zealand’s most flavoursome hops. They get that great beer is not brewed to a past or a future ideal. It’s an ongoing journey of fresh thinking. Hop Revolution really is only here for your beer. Let them flavour your thinking stateside directly from Hop Revolution, or through Crosby Hops or Mill95. Learn more @ HopRevolution.co.nz (https://www.hoprevolution.co.nz).

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68: Fonta Flora Brewery’s Todd Boera: Getting Creative With Ingredients While Staying Grounded

68: Fonta Flora Brewery’s Todd Boera: Getting Creative With Ingredients While Staying Grounded

Fonta Flora Brewery’s Todd Boera is known for creative yet grounded mixed culture botanical beers, and their new production brewery out on a farm 30 minutes from Morganton, North Carolina puts an even finer point on the connection between the brewery and the agriculture that supports it. In this conversation, he opens up about the way they think about and brew with offbeat ingredients, how they apply an ingredient focus to more conventional beers like IPAs, the challenge of opening a production brewery in a dry county (that is no longer dry), how the pace of change in the brewing world has forced them to throw out business plans and quickly adapt, and more. Y’all listen in. This episode is brought to you by: BSG (http://bsgcraftbrewing.com): Great beers are made from select ingredients. With BSG, you’ll bring the world to your brewhouse with an unparalleled and diverse selection of ingredients, from across the globe to just down the road. Our dedicated customer service team and industry experience provides you with the assistance you need in every step of the way. Let BSG be your supplier of choice for products essential to making great artisanal beverages, so you can stay focused on your craft. For more information, visit us as bsgcraftbrewing.com, or contact us at 1.800.374.2739. G&D Chillers (http://www.Gdchillers.com): As the brewing industry’s premier choice for glycol chilling, G&D Chillers has set the standard on quality, service, and dedication to their customer’s craft. For 25 years G&D has led the way on innovative solutions that match their brewing customers immediate and future needs. With a wide selection of custom built chillers; G&D offers the Nano chiller, the perfect solution for Nano breweries all the way up to their larger capacity units like the Vertical Air Chiller, built for higher volume operations. Contact G&D Chillers today for your chiller sizing needs at 800.555.0973. Reach out online at Gdchillers.com Craft Brewers Conference & BrewExpo America (https://www.craftbrewersconference.com): This episode is brought to you by the Craft Brewers Conference & BrewExpo America, America's largest craft brewing industry gathering. Join your peers in Denver, April 8th through 11th. Details at CraftBrewersConference.com Ska Fabricating (https://www.skafabricating.com): Ska Fabricating is the craft industry’s leading choice for packaging line automation. Specializing in depalletizing, repalletizing, conveyance, rinsing, drying, fill detection and date coding, Ska Fab has over 600 installations in breweries, wineries, and distilleries worldwide. With a reliable team of engineers dedicated to fast, reliable customer service, you can count on us to provide systems custom tailored for your specific needs. Contact Ska Fab today at (970) 403-8562 or reach out online at skafabricating.com.

1 Feb 201957min

67: Mikerphone's Mike Pallen: Using Unconventional Ingredients to Maximize Flavor

67: Mikerphone's Mike Pallen: Using Unconventional Ingredients to Maximize Flavor

Mike Pallen paid his dues as a homebrewer and after helping some other breweries get off the ground all while working on his own recipes, he's busted out onto the national beer scene. The owner and head brewer of Mikerphone talks about collaborations, finding ways to use unconventional ingredients to maximize flavor, and why a healthy work and life balance is more important than ever before. This episode is brought to you by: G&D Chillers (http://www.Gdchillers.com): As the brewing industry’s premier choice for glycol chilling, G&D Chillers has set the standard on quality, service, and dedication to their customer’s craft. For 25 years G&D has led the way on innovative solutions that match their brewing customers immediate and future needs. With a wide selection of custom built chillers; G&D offers the Nano chiller, the perfect solution for Nano breweries all the way up to their larger capacity units like the Vertical Air Chiller, built for higher volume operations. Contact G&D Chillers today for your chiller sizing needs at 800.555.0973. Reach out online at Gdchillers.com *American Homebrewers Association *(https://www.homebrewersassociation.org): This episode is brought to you by the American Homebrewers Association, host of Homebrew Con, publisher of Zymurgy magazine, and organizer of the National Homebrew Competition. BSG (http://bsgcraftbrewing.com): Great beers are made from select ingredients. With BSG, you’ll bring the world to your brewhouse with an unparalleled and diverse selection of ingredients, from across the globe to just down the road. Our dedicated customer service team and industry experience provides you with the assistance you need in every step of the way. Let BSG be your supplier of choice for products essential to making great artisanal beverages, so you can stay focused on your craft. For more information, visit us as bsgcraftbrewing.com, or contact us at 1.800.374.2739.

25 Jan 201950min

66: Dogfish Head’s Bryan Selders: Innovating With Beers Both Big and Small

66: Dogfish Head’s Bryan Selders: Innovating With Beers Both Big and Small

The Delaware craft stalwart’s “Brewing Ambassador” and former head brewer talks through everything from the process of innovation to brewhouse key performance indicators, building beers from the simplest Pilsner to giant high-gravity beers, evaluating ingredients, reducing diacetyl, his career foray into graphic design and back to brewing, overlooked considerations while brewing, and more. This episode is brought to you by: G&D Chillers (http://www.Gdchillers.com): As the brewing industry’s premier choice for glycol chilling, G&D Chillers has set the standard on quality, service, and dedication to their customer’s craft. For 25 years G&D has led the way on innovative solutions that match their brewing customers immediate and future needs. With a wide selection of custom built chillers; G&D offers the Nano chiller, the perfect solution for Nano breweries all the way up to their larger capacity units like the Vertical Air Chiller, built for higher volume operations. Contact G&D Chillers today for your chiller sizing needs at 800.555.0973. Reach out online at Gdchillers.com Perfect Puree (http://perfectpuree.com/beer): Craft the perfect pour with superior fruit from The Perfect Purée. Picked at the peak of ripeness, the fruit is pureed and packed for optimal fresh flavor and color. But don’t just take our word for it, experience flavor first-hand by curating your own complimentary sample box at perfectpuree.com/beer. That’s perfect P-U-R-E-E dot com forward-slash beer. Samples are complimentary for brewing professionals only. BSG (http://bsgcraftbrewing.com): Great beers are made from select ingredients. With BSG, you’ll bring the world to your brewhouse with an unparalleled and diverse selection of ingredients, from across the globe to just down the road. Our dedicated customer service team and industry experience provides you with the assistance you need in every step of the way. Let BSG be your supplier of choice for products essential to making great artisanal beverages, so you can stay focused on your craft. For more information, visit us as bsgcraftbrewing.com, or contact us at 1.800.374.2739. Craft Brewers Conference & BrewExpo America (https://www.craftbrewersconference.com): This episode is brought to you by the Craft Brewers Conference & BrewExpo America, America's largest craft brewing industry gathering. Join your peers in Denver, April 8th through 11th. Details at CraftBrewersConference.com

18 Jan 201959min

65: Highland Park's Bob Kunz: Building Unique Beers That Are True to Your Environment

65: Highland Park's Bob Kunz: Building Unique Beers That Are True to Your Environment

Just because Bob Kunz has moved his Highland Park Brewery into a larger space doesn't mean he plans to max it out capacity wise. The Los Angeles brewer talks about his plan for modest growth, how he looks for international inspiration beyond just Germany and the Czech Republic when it comes to pilsner, and shares his advice for creating a wild yeast culture that will develop overtime ensuring your beers can only taste like your beers. This episode is brought to you by: G&D Chillers (http://www.Gdchillers.com): As the brewing industry’s premier choice for glycol chilling, G&D Chillers has set the standard on quality, service, and dedication to their customer’s craft. For 25 years G&D has led the way on innovative solutions that match their brewing customers immediate and future needs. With a wide selection of custom built chillers; G&D offers the Nano chiller, the perfect solution for Nano breweries all the way up to their larger capacity units like the Vertical Air Chiller, built for higher volume operations. Contact G&D Chillers today for your chiller sizing needs at 800.555.0973. Reach out online at Gdchillers.com Perfect Puree (http://perfectpuree.com/beer): Craft the perfect pour with superior fruit from The Perfect Purée. Picked at the peak of ripeness, the fruit is pureed and packed for optimal fresh flavor and color. But don’t just take our word for it, experience flavor first-hand by curating your own complimentary sample box at perfectpuree.com/beer. That’s perfect P-U-R-E-E dot com forward-slash beer. Samples are complimentary for brewing professionals only. BSG (http://bsgcraftbrewing.com): Great beers are made from select ingredients. With BSG, you’ll bring the world to your brewhouse with an unparalleled and diverse selection of ingredients, from across the globe to just down the road. Our dedicated customer service team and industry experience provides you with the assistance you need in every step of the way. Let BSG be your supplier of choice for products essential to making great artisanal beverages, so you can stay focused on your craft. For more information, visit us as bsgcraftbrewing.com, or contact us at 1.800.374.2739. American Homebrewers Association (https://www.homebrewersassociation.org): This episode is brought to you by the American Homebrewers Association, a community of homebrewers and an essential source of brewing tips, recipes, and homebrewing culture.

11 Jan 201945min

64: Fort George's Dave Coyne: The Constant Evolution of Recipes

64: Fort George's Dave Coyne: The Constant Evolution of Recipes

Dave Coyne of Fort George Brewery holds the title of “Barrel Baron,” and manages everything from R&D brewing to the barrel program of the powerhouse Pacific Northwest brewery. In this conversation, he talks about recipes and considerations for their annual collaborative 3-Way IPA, building barrel-aged beers and adjunction them, barleywines, the constantly evolving nature of their recipes, and more. This episode is brought to you by: * G&D Chillers (http://www.Gdchillers.com): As the brewing industry’s premier choice for glycol chilling, G&D Chillers has set the standard on quality, service, and dedication to their customer’s craft. For 25 years G&D has led the way on innovative solutions that match their brewing customers immediate and future needs. With a wide selection of custom built chillers; G&D offers the Nano chiller, the perfect solution for Nano breweries all the way up to their larger capacity units like the Vertical Air Chiller, built for higher volume operations. Contact G&D Chillers today for your chiller sizing needs at 800.555.0973. Reach out online at Gdchillers.com Craft Brewers Conference & BrewExpo America (https://www.craftbrewersconference.com): This episode is brought to you by the Craft Brewers Conference & BrewExpo America, America's largest craft brewing industry gathering. Join your peers in Denver, April 8th through 11th. Details at CraftBrewersConference.com BSG (http://bsgcraftbrewing.com): Great beers are made from select ingredients. With BSG, you’ll bring the world to your brewhouse with an unparalleled and diverse selection of ingredients, from across the globe to just down the road. Our dedicated customer service team and industry experience provides you with the assistance you need in every step of the way. Let BSG be your supplier of choice for products essential to making great artisanal beverages, so you can stay focused on your craft. For more information, visit us as bsgcraftbrewing.com, or contact us at 1.800.374.2739.

5 Jan 201953min

63: Three Weavers Brewing's Alexandra Nowell: An Appreciation for Ingredients

63: Three Weavers Brewing's Alexandra Nowell: An Appreciation for Ingredients

Alexandra Nowell, the brewmaster at Three Weavers in Los Angeles talks about what she learned as she worked her way up the brewing career ladder, especially an appreciation for ingredients. Part of the fun of being a brewer, she says, is the chance to experiment with not only new styles and recipes, but existing ones. From how to cultivate a relationship with farmers for the best ingredients, to getting your hands messy by processing them yourself, she shares tips for creating vibrant beers that can have mass appeal. This episode is brought to you by the Brewers Retreat (http://brewersretreat.com).

28 Dec 201845min

62: Falling Rock's Chris Black: Blurring the Lines of the Three-Tier System

62: Falling Rock's Chris Black: Blurring the Lines of the Three-Tier System

Falling Rock Taphouse cofounder Chris Black is known for his strong opinions and bombastic style—befitting for one of America’s most influential publicans. In this conversation, Black expounds upon his recent fiery blog post taking to task breweries who expand taprooms and retail locations in ways that blur the lines of the three-tier systems. Host Jamie Bogner plays devil’s advocate in a spirited debate about the increasing direct-to-consumer nature of the beer business and how deeper relationships between brewers and their customers impact the traditional roles that retailers have played in getting great beer to consumers. This episode is brought to you by the Brewers Retreat (http://www.brewersretreat.com).

21 Dec 20181h 11min

61: Trillium's JC Tetreault: Owning It and Moving Forward

61: Trillium's JC Tetreault: Owning It and Moving Forward

It’s been three weeks since an internet post where issues of wages, beer service, and recipes were leveled against Trillium Brewing Co. Co-owner and founder JC Tetreault sits down to discuss his reaction, response, and what the brewery is doing to preserve and evolve its culture. This podcast is brought to you by CraftBeer.com

14 Dec 201859min

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