Rethinking Careers When No One Leaves

n this episode, Lucy Adams is joined by Eva Murciano to explore one of the biggest challenges facing organisations today: how to keep careers moving in environments where people stay for a long time. Drawing on Eva’s experience at the European Central Bank, they unpack the tension between having a highly committed, purpose-driven workforce and the unintended consequences of low turnover; stagnation, limited progression, and skills that risk becoming outdated.

Their conversation challenges the traditional idea of career progression as a ladder to climb. Instead, Lucy and Eva discuss the need to reframe careers around growth, skills, and experiences. They explore why both employees and managers often resist internal mobility, and what organisations can do to shift mindsets. From redefining success to making movement the norm rather than the exception, this episode offers practical insight into what it really takes to future-proof careers.

Eva also shares how the ECB is experimenting with a structured approach to mobility through its “3–5–8 model,” encouraging employees to think proactively about their next move. It’s an honest discussion about what works, what’s still evolving, and why HR has a critical role to play in nudging both individuals and leaders towards more dynamic, flexible career paths.

Chapters 00:00 – Rethinking careers in a fast-changing world 08:12 – The hidden challenge of long-tenured workforces 16:45 – Why internal mobility is so hard to make happen 25:30 – The 3–5–8 model: encouraging movement and growth 33:10 – What HR can do to shift mindsets and behaviours

About Eva Murciano Eva Murciano is an HR leader at the European Central Bank, with a focus on talent, development, and organisational effectiveness. She is passionate about enabling people to grow through diverse experiences and helping organisations build more agile, future-ready workforces.

Contact Eva https://www.linkedin.com/in/eva-murciano-831a5a13/

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