Conversations For The End8 Dec 2025

Ep 22 - Stefano Carpani - Peace Is Not in Our Nature: War, Shadow, and Jungian Thought.

Episode Description

In this conversation, Neo Jungian sociologist and analyst Stefano Carpani explores why peace may never have been humanity’s natural state and what this means for a world moving toward new forms of conflict. We examine the democratisation of Jungian ideas, the psychological conditions of our time, and why understanding the wish for war is essential if we hope to avoid repeating the catastrophes of the past.

Carpani reflects on modern desensitisation, how we have become subtly anaesthetised, and how these shifts shape our everyday reality settings. We look at the constellation of archetypes in contemporary culture, from Greta Thunberg to collective anxieties of the 21st century, and how psychosocial Jungian thinking can help us navigate the forces moving through society today.

This episode asks a difficult but necessary question
If peace is not in our nature, what must we understand about ourselves to prevent history from repeating itself

Stefano closes with a reflective exercise and an invitation to deepen our psychological literacy in a rapidly changing world.

00:00 Introduction
01:05 Neo Jungians
07:20 Analytical psychology and the current times
12:00 Democratisation of Jungian ideas
18:30 War as rest
26:00 Jungian antidotes to war
32:15 Peace is not in our nature
37:15 Modern desensitised and anaesthetised
39:00 The transformation of desensitisation
42:00 Reality settings
48:00 Greta Thunberg and the constellation of an archetype
50:00 Psychosocial Jungian thinking
60:03 Where to find Stefano and an exercise in reflection

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