36. The One Where We Talk Like We Aren’t Being Recorded with Michelle Peris and Leigha Saunders
The Fatigue Fixer16 Juli 2025

36. The One Where We Talk Like We Aren’t Being Recorded with Michelle Peris and Leigha Saunders

Women’s health after 35 comes with a lot of noise—and even more gaslighting. In this honest, unfiltered episode of The Fatigue Fixer, I’m joined by my dear friends, and fellow naturopathic doctors, Dr. Michelle Peris and Dr. Leigha Saunders, for the kind of conversation we wish more women were having. No bios, no scripts, just real talk about what we’re tired of seeing, hearing, and feeling when it comes to health, productivity, mindset, and the pressure to do it all.

We talk about the narratives that need to change, and how supportive female friendships aren’t just nice to have—they’re a non-negotiable part of healing.

Key Takeaways:
  • Why “It’s just perimenopause” is an oversimplified and harmful response to women’s symptoms

  • The hidden cost of tying your self-worth to productivity and doing

  • How female anger is pathologized—and why it’s actually healthy

  • The power of friendships where you can tell the truth, without judgment

  • A new way to look at rest, weight gain, and emotional expression

  • What we’re sick of hearing in our practices (and what we’re replacing it with)

Dr. Michelle Peris is a Naturopathic Doctor, founder of The Wild Collective, clinic owner at The Poppy Clinic in Burlington ON, and host of the podcast Wild Medicine. Learn more at michelleperis.com, and follow her on Instagram.

Dr. Leigha Saunders is a Naturopathic Doctor, Menopause Society Certified Practitioner, and host of the podcast Grown Up Girl Talk. Learn more at leighasaundersnd.com, and follow her on Instagram.


Dr. Sarah Vadeboncoeur is a Naturopathic Doctor, mom, and fatigue fixer who’s on a mission to help women fix their fatigue and get the health care they deserve. You can find her talking about all things fatigue on Instagram and learn more about her services at drsarahv.ca.

The Fatigue Fixer is produced by Story Studio Network.

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