#869: Max Levchin, PayPal and Affirm — The Path from The Soviet Union to Building Multi-Billion Dollar Companies (Plus: Real-World Socialism vs. Capitalism)

Max Levchin (@mlevchin) is a serial entrepreneur and investor in 100+ startups. He's the founder and CEO of Affirm, the payment network powering consumer purchases and merchant growth. An original PayPal co-founder, Max served as CTO until its 2002 acquisition by eBay.

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Timestamps:

[00:00:00] Start.
[00:02:50] The Ronin line that rewired how Max makes every decision.
[00:06:09] Paprika-style brain-computer interfaces.
[00:09:09] PayPal's founders lived inside a Neal Stephenson novel.
[00:19:21] Transformation via Neuromancer and Snow Crash.
[00:23:40] The book that found Max his wife.
[00:29:24] The real secret to a great marriage.
[00:38:29] What's worth tracking, and what's not.
[00:44:13] A scrawny kid, a clarinet, and a Kyiv velodrome.
[00:46:55] What going all-out on a bike actually gives you.
[00:51:02] The mantra by which Max rides.
[00:53:02] A Soviet kid's fear of socialism.
[01:02:48] Making a profit without destroying society.
[01:04:31] What is Affirm, and why did every banker say it would fail?
[01:20:18] Why the best mathematicians eschew the lending industry.
[01:23:50] Does agentic commerce break Affirm, or supercharge it?
[01:28:01] A PhD-level financial advisor in everyone's pocket.
[01:29:58] How close are we to buying anything through one AI chat?
[01:36:32] Improving your coffee: cheap, intermediate, and Bugatti options.
[01:44:33] The books every first-time founder should actually read.
[01:48:08] Claude Shannon, Ed Thorp, and the joy of playful genius.
[01:51:00] Why physical books still beat every digital reading experience.
[01:51:44] Parting thoughts.

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