TTU02: Why The Game of Picking Sectors is a Fool’s Errand ft. Jason Gerlach of Sunrise Capital Partners – 2of2

TTU02: Why The Game of Picking Sectors is a Fool’s Errand ft. Jason Gerlach of Sunrise Capital Partners – 2of2

Welcome back to our conversation with Jason Gerlach of Sunrise Capital Partners.

In this interview we discuss the history of Sunrise Capital Partners, the current evolution in their financial product line and the inner workings of what it takes to make it as a successful trading organization in the ever changing market conditions.

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50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE

In This Episode, You’ll Learn:

  • Exploring the design structure of the Sunrise Evolution program: Quadrant A, B, C and D and how they play together
  • Detailed examples of how trading models can be different.
  • How trade implementation works with complex systems like these
  • About the Volume of trading the Sunrise Capital does each day
  • Why the game of picking sectors is a fools errand
  • Strategies for dealing with the emotional weight of drawdowns
  • Sunrise Capital Management’s approach to research
  • The traits and what it takes to become a great CTA
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SI348: The Quiet Cost of Overfitting ft. Andrew Beer

SI348: The Quiet Cost of Overfitting ft. Andrew Beer

Andrew Beer returns to confront a moment of reckoning for trend following. As managed futures suffer one of their worst periods in decades, he and Niels explore a deeper question: has the strategy evolved in ways that undermine its edge? From the seduction of short-term models to the unintended consequences of complexity, this conversation traces how well-meaning enhancements may be compounding the very problems they aim to solve. Layer in political volatility, crowded positioning, and allocator fatigue, and the path forward looks less like innovation and more like rediscovery. This episode isn’t a defense of recent results... it’s a clear-eyed look at what happens when a strategy built on discipline gets pulled off course, and what it takes to steer it back.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Andrew on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 03:20 - Reflecting on Apple and China's Tech Revolution17:28 - Shifts in the Market Landscape: The Influence of Trump and AI20:03 - The Dynamics of Negotiation in Real Estate30:15 - Market Dynamics and the Role of Central Banks39:26 - The Changing Dynamics of Market Trends48:00 - Evaluating Investment Strategies and Performance53:19 - Navigating Market Challenges and Expectations01:08:34 - The Future of Investment Strategies01:11:10 - Navigating Market ChangesCopyright © 2025 – CMC AG – All Rights Reserved----PLUS: Whenever you're ready... here are 3 ways I can help you in your investment...

17 Maj 1h 15min

UGO02: Inequality, Inflation, and the End of Consensus ft. Jim Bianco

UGO02: Inequality, Inflation, and the End of Consensus ft. Jim Bianco

What if the volatility we’re seeing is not a pause in the cycle, but the start of something lasting? In this episode, Cem Karsan sits down with Jim Bianco to unpack the forces reshaping the market and the political landscape around it. From the roots of labor unrest in 1880s Chicago to rising tariffs and inflation today, they trace how decades of policy widened inequality and fractured the middle. This is a conversation about debt, power, and the limits of the old playbook. The Fed may no longer be able to step in. Passive investing may no longer offer safety. If you are still positioned for the past, this episode is a clear signal to rethink what comes next.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Cem on Twitter.Follow Jim on X.Episode TimeStamps: 02:01 - Introduction to Jim Bianco and Bianco Research06:36 - The big macro picture view16:02 - The financial inequality is at an all time high22:51 - The power of generational wealth24:07 - The imbalance of politics - something has to change27:47 - Why we will see a major shift in how we invest soon30:19 - How the economy is changing36:10 - What defines a strong economy?40:58 - What is Trump talking about?45:36 - The outlook of the economy53:33 - The core of the political problems in the US55:16 - How to benefit from the current market...

13 Maj 1h 3min

SI347: Stagflation, Storytelling, and the Search for a New Hero ft. Cem Karsan

SI347: Stagflation, Storytelling, and the Search for a New Hero ft. Cem Karsan

Today Cem and Niels dissect a world quietly shifting beneath our feet.As markets hum along, Cem explains why the real story lies beneath the surface: a structural liquidity drain, a creeping stagflation that defies familiar playbooks, and a political regime shift few are pricing in. From Buffett’s exit to dollar fragility, elite endowments tapping the bond market, and oil diplomacy with geopolitical undertones—this is a conversation about change in motion.But this episode doesn’t stop at markets. It’s about the narrative arc of societies under stress—about whether the West can summon the unity and courage to face its next great test.Insightful, urgent, and layered - this is the episode you will look back on and say: the clues were all there.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Cem on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 01:17 - What has caught our attention recently?06:54 - Industry performance update08:44 - Inflation is coming - what now?16:43 - The Fed is stuck and the Trump administration is changing26:07 - If US debt defaults, what is left?29:32 - Are we experiencing the decline of the dollar?40:19 - The OPEC game43:21 - Reflecting on the conversation with Demetri Kofinas48:33 - What is courage as a society?50:49 - The West is being disunified...on purpose53:22 - Do we actually know who or what the real enemy is?58:58 - Cem's latest market forecastCopyright © 2025 –...

10 Maj 1h 7min

GM81: What If Everything You Believe About Markets Is Wrong? ft. Demetri Kofinas

GM81: What If Everything You Believe About Markets Is Wrong? ft. Demetri Kofinas

What if the biggest risk in markets today isn’t volatility, inflation, or geopolitics - but the stories we believe to be true? In this unfiltered and thought-provoking episode, Demetri Kofinas joins Cem Karsan and Niels Kaastrup-Larsen for a piercing conversation that challenges how we process information, construct narratives, and make decisions in uncertain environments. This isn’t about market forecasts - it’s about how easily our thinking can be hijacked. From the corrosive incentives of financial media to the quiet ways conviction becomes cognitive quicksand, Demetri argues that investors today are drowning not in data, but distortion - misled by institutions built to entertain, not enlighten. Yet this episode is more than critique. It offers a path forward - one grounded in introspection, discomfort, and the discipline of intellectual honesty. For anyone managing capital - or simply trying to see clearly in a noisy world—this is a conversation that may shift not just your positions, but your perspective. Because the greatest edge in markets isn’t a model. It’s clarity when others are lost in the fog.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Cem on Twitter.Follow Demetri on X.Episode TimeStamps: 03:21 - Introduction to Demetri Kofinas04:39 - The era of financial nihilism11:44 - The birth of a radical optimism?20:10 - The risk of not heeding the call26:16 - The dark side of smoothing the business cycle29:14...

7 Maj 1h 3min

SI346: Is the Trend Still Your Friend ft. Rob Carver

SI346: Is the Trend Still Your Friend ft. Rob Carver

This episode is all about understanding the nuances of trend-following and how current market dynamics are shaking things up. Together with Rob Carver, we discuss the turbulence that hit financial markets in April and how that affected Trend Followers, as well as how Rob navigated the last 12 months as a trend follower. Plus, we explore the intriguing topic of safe haven assets, questioning if traditional choices like U.S. treasury bonds still hold up under pressure. We also explore a paper that the discuss the pros and cons of simplicity over complexity in strategy design.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Rob on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps: 01:40 - What has caught our attention recently?06:59 - Society is going crazy09:47 - Industry performance update16:22 - How to capture the bounce in trailing stops23:20 - Industry performance numbers25:18 - Q1, Niall: What books would you recommend for a young quant entering the CTA space today?29:05 - Reviewing Rob's annual trend following performance36:26 - Should we start to rethink our approach to drawdowns?40:45 - How do we stop investors from projecting market expectations to trend following performance44:16 - How Rob defines slippage50:12 - What if we base our trend system on one indicator?54:18 - Does this trend following thing still work?58:56 - Getting to know the founders of trend...

3 Maj 1h 9min

IL38: Our Dollar, Your Problem ft. Kenneth Rogoff

IL38: Our Dollar, Your Problem ft. Kenneth Rogoff

What if the most dangerous thing in the global economy isn’t a shock — but the quiet collapse of the frameworks we still rely on?In this rare, unfiltered conversation, Kenneth Rogoff — Harvard professor and former IMF Chief Economist — joins Kevin Coldiron to confront the reality that’s too uncomfortable for most policymakers to admit:The world has changed. The models haven’t.Rogoff explores what happens when inflation refuses to respond, debt compounds beneath the surface, AI reshapes productivity, and geopolitics redraws the map — while central banks keep playing by yesterday’s rules.This isn’t a call for panic. It’s a call for intellectual honesty.Because in a world where the past no longer explains the present, clarity is the only edge that matters.If you manage capital — or ideas — in a world built on assumptions, this episode is for you.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Kevin on SubStack & read his Book.Follow Kenneth on X and read his book.Episode TimeStamps: 02:01 - Introduction to Kenneth Rogoff03:04 - What is at stake if the dollar loses its...

30 Apr 1h 11min

SI345: From Chaos to Clarity: The Power of Systematic Investing ft. Nick Baltas

SI345: From Chaos to Clarity: The Power of Systematic Investing ft. Nick Baltas

This episode is all about exploring the intricacies of market behavior, how trends shift, and what that means for our investment strategies. We’re having a serious chat about the impact of recent market fluctuations and how they influence our approaches to trend following. Together with Nick Baltas, we’ll touch on the dynamics of crowding in trades and how that shapes investor sentiment. So, grab your headphones and get ready for a straightforward, no-nonsense journey through the latest trends and insights in the investing world.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Nick on Twitter.Episode TimeStamps:01:59 - What has caught our attention recently?09:44 - We are entering an era of new market drivers15:31 - Why gold might be overrated17:34 - The challenges that investors are facing at the moment21:26 - Pension funds - reasons for concern?25:05 - Industry performance update27:08 - How Baltas' models react to the current markets30:46 - Industry performance numbers32:57 - Q1, Tim: Should an allocator into trend following strategies keep holding on to the winners or switch between trend following strategies?43:35 - Q1.1, Tim: Based on his models, where does Nick currently see crowded trades, and what is his assessment on crowdedness / positioning in equities where things have been particularly choppy?47:15 - Q2, Dimitri: I’m curious whether Nick sees banks allocating more resources to systematic strategies in credit over the...

26 Apr 1h 8min

OI15: Navigating the Commodity Markets with Calculo Capital ft. Ole Hansen & Philip Carlsson

OI15: Navigating the Commodity Markets with Calculo Capital ft. Ole Hansen & Philip Carlsson

Today, we're diving deep into the world of commodities with Calculo Capital, a short-term quantitative hedge fund based in Denmark. Our guests, Philip Engel Carlsson and Ole Hansen, share their insights on how they navigate the fast-paced commodity markets using machine learning techniques. We explore how their focus on liquid markets and short holding periods allows them to capitalize on price movements driven by supply and demand imbalances. The conversation also touches on the current trends in commodities, like the rising demand for precious metals and the impact of geopolitical events. Join us as we uncover the strategies behind Calculo's approach and what sets them apart in the investment landscape.-----50 YEARS OF TREND FOLLOWING BOOK AND BEHIND-THE-SCENES VIDEO FOR ACCREDITED INVESTORS - CLICK HERE-----Follow Niels on Twitter, LinkedIn, YouTube or via the TTU website.IT’s TRUE ? – most CIO’s read 50+ books each year – get your FREE copy of the Ultimate Guide to the Best Investment Books ever written here.And you can get a free copy of my latest book “Ten Reasons to Add Trend Following to Your Portfolio” here.Learn more about the Trend Barometer here.Send your questions to info@toptradersunplugged.comAnd please share this episode with a like-minded friend and leave an honest Rating & Review on iTunes or Spotify so more people can discover the podcast.Follow Moritz on Linkedin.Follow Ole on LinkedIn.Follow Philip on LinkedIn.Episode TimeStamps: 02:08 - Introduction to Calculo Capital03:53 - The state of today's commodity markets10:35 - Commodity performance numbers11:34 - What is driving the increased performance in the precious metal markets?15:35 - How the commodity performance impacts the way Calculo Capital is trading16:48 - Why do Calculo Capital only focus on commodity...

23 Apr 42min

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