He Sends 2.5 BILLION Emails Per Month | Nathan Barry

He Sends 2.5 BILLION Emails Per Month | Nathan Barry

Nathan Barry, founder of ConvertKit, shares his journey from software designer to content creator to software founder. With ConvertKit now sending 2.5 billion emails per month and generating $40 million in revenue, Nathan discusses the power of building an audience and leveraging it to create long-term enterprise value. He also delves into his passion for flying and the parallels between flying and entrepreneurship. Nathan emphasizes the importance of having goals outside of work and optimizing for the journey rather than just the destination. Watch the full interview here: https://youtu.be/vuwfio0Uw4Y Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube! Check out more of Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT) and Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT) TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: (00:00) Nathan Barry introduces himself and his journey from software designer to software founder (02:57) Nathan Barry discusses his passion for flying and the process of getting a pilot's license (06:43) Nathan Barry expresses his goal of using flying for both personal and work-related purposes (08:14) Nathan Barry discusses the limitations and considerations of owning a larger plane (09:49) Eric asks Nathan about the payment structure for the pilot. (12:30) Nathan talks about his podcast and the journey of building an audience. (14:02) Nathan shares the story of Mark Sisson and the value of redirecting audience attention to a product. (15:08) Nathan explains the power of an audience in promoting and selling products. (16:03) Nathan discusses the success of Mark Sisson's Primal Kitchen and the value of an audience. (18:19) Nathan talks about the three rules for building an audience and creating enterprise value. (19:46) Nathan shares his experience building ConvertKit and its long-term enterprise value. (20:05) Nathan Barry and Eric Siu discuss the potential of agencies as successful businesses. (21:25) Nathan Barry shares his perspective on monetization options for creators. Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel X @ericosiu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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ChatGPT Quietly Switches From Bing to Google

ChatGPT Quietly Switches From Bing to Google

In this episode #3004, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the shift from Bing to Google and the Microsoft-OpenAI partnership’s impact on businesses. They cover how marketing agencies are evolving amid regulations and bureaucracy while emphasizing the role of relationships, referrals, and trust in driving B2B success. The episode wraps with lessons on learning from failures and staying consistent in a changing landscape. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Shift from Bing to Google (03:05) The Dynamics of the Microsoft-OpenAI Partnership (05:57) Navigating Business Challenges During COVID (09:08) The Evolution of Marketing Agencies (12:03) The Impact of Bureaucracy on Agency Performance (13:25) The Impact of Regulations on Innovation (14:07) The Role of Relationships in Business Success (17:07) The Importance of Referrals and Trust (20:39) Learning from Failures and Consistency To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

14 Juli 23min

MrBeast's SaaS Decision - A Mistake?, Pay per Crawl Launches for AI, Listicles Are Back, Why You Need Them for LLMs, How LLMs Will Rank You in the Future, AI Content Farms Are the New Arbitrage?

MrBeast's SaaS Decision - A Mistake?, Pay per Crawl Launches for AI, Listicles Are Back, Why You Need Them for LLMs, How LLMs Will Rank You in the Future, AI Content Farms Are the New Arbitrage?

In this episode #3003, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss MrBeast's ViewStats and the AI thumbnail backlash, Cloudflare's pay-to-play model, and how LLMs are shaping the future of SEO. They also cover the challenges of monetizing AI content and the potential of hiring AI automation interns to boost workflow efficiency. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) MrBeast's ViewStats and AI Thumbnail Controversy (02:43) Cloudflare's Pay-to-Play Model (05:23) The Future of LLMs and SEO (09:53) AI Content and Monetization Challenges (12:31) AI Automation Interns and Workflow Efficiency To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

10 Juli 20min

The Collapse of Jaguar, How Meta Is Buying OpenAI Right in Front of Us, AI Mode vs. Classic Search Data, ChatGPT 5 Will Be INSANE

The Collapse of Jaguar, How Meta Is Buying OpenAI Right in Front of Us, AI Mode vs. Classic Search Data, ChatGPT 5 Will Be INSANE

In this episode #3002, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the collapse of Jaguar due to marketing missteps and the importance of understanding core audiences. They dive into Meta's AI acquisitions, compare user behavior in AI mode versus classic search, highlight ChatGPT's dominance, and share insights on investment strategies in tech companies. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Collapse of Jaguar: A Marketing Misstep (02:45) Understanding Core Audiences in Marketing (06:06) Meta's Strategic Moves in AI Acquisition (08:57) AI Mode vs. Classic Search: User Behavior Insights (12:05) ChatGPT's Dominance in the AI Landscape (15:03) Investment Strategies in Tech Companies To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

9 Juli 23min

Where Remote Work Fails

Where Remote Work Fails

In this episode #3001, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the challenges and benefits of remote work, the push for in-person collaboration to boost accountability, and how direct communication impacts team productivity. They also touch on optimizing processes for efficiency and share innovative marketing strategies used by brands like Michelin and Red Bull. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Importance of Talent Management (03:05) The Consequences of Remote Work (05:57) Communication Challenges in Remote Teams (08:55) The Push for In-Person Collaboration (11:46) Direct Communication and Accountability (16:39) Optimizing Processes for Efficiency (19:54) Innovative Marketing Strategies To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

8 Juli 24min

Alex Becker's Smart YouTube SaaS Strategy, What Is Spectacle Marketing?

Alex Becker's Smart YouTube SaaS Strategy, What Is Spectacle Marketing?

In this episode #3000, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss how to leverage YouTube for business growth by focusing on content quality over flashy production. They explore the good and bad of spectacle marketing while analyzing creators like Alex Becker and Mr. Beast. The episode wraps with insights on the future of marketing and integrating AI to stay ahead. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) YouTube Strategies and Success Stories (03:03) Content Creation and Video Production Insights (05:57) Spectacle Marketing: The Good and the Bad (11:56) The Future of Marketing and AI Integration To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

7 Juli 19min

Inside The Mind of a $500M Entrepreneur | Jess Mah

Inside The Mind of a $500M Entrepreneur | Jess Mah

Jess Mah went from an immigrant family in a small New York apartment to building a $500M net worth—without a trust fund. In this episode, we unpack the mindset, strategies, and wild experiments that got her there. And wait until you hear her take on why most people never get rich. Let’s dive in! TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) Understanding Wealth and Mindset (02:45) The Role of Networking in Success (06:03) Navigating Business and Personal Growth (08:49) Tax Strategies for Entrepreneurs (11:59) The Pursuit of Ikigai and Personal Goals (35:28) Defining Sona Genius (36:47) Resource Allocation in Business (38:29) Role Models and Entrepreneurial Paths (39:54) The Importance of Focused Involvement (41:48) Different Flavors of Entrepreneurs (43:02) Innovative Marketing Strategies (44:51) Team Structure and Operations (46:46) Intentional Relationships (47:37) Pursuit of Excellence: Kodawari vs. Kaizen (49:34) Long-Term Business Building (52:20) Embracing Pain in Business (54:46) Cutting-Edge Science and Longevity (56:39) Daily Habits and Learning Stacks (58:57) Gold Diggers and Relationship Dynamics (01:01:20) Spending Habits and Celebrating Wins (01:05:55) AI Innovations and Future Trends (01:07:20) Book Recommendations and Mindset Shifts (01:09:44) Experiments in Dating and Life To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

4 Juli 1h 14min

Do It or Don't, and Stop Wanting It

Do It or Don't, and Stop Wanting It

In episode #2999, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the mindset behind taking action, the grit required to build a business, and how personal growth and priorities evolve over time. They share lessons from the early days of Single Grain, highlight the emotional toll of leadership, and talk about balancing ambition with family and purpose. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) Do It or Don’t: Taking Ownership (02:42) The Reality of Startup Pressure (06:34) Hard Lessons from Single Grain (10:21) The Emotional Weight of Leadership (13:17) Balancing Work, Family, and Purpose To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

3 Juli 20min

AI SEO Is a GRIFT

AI SEO Is a GRIFT

In episode #2998, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss how traditional SEO remains relevant despite AI advancements. They explore the evolution of content creation, the balance between competition and collaboration, and how seasonal trends affect agency revenue. The conversation underscores the importance of adaptability and maintaining human-focused strategies. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Evolution of SEO in the Age of AI (04:15) Understanding the Role of Content Creation (10:00) Navigating Competition and Collaboration in Marketing (14:04) Seasonal Trends in Agency Revenue To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

2 Juli 17min

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