The future of marketing agencies, How to increase your agency's value, & more

The future of marketing agencies, How to increase your agency's value, & more

In episode #2681 of Marketing School, hosts Eric Siu, Neil Patel, and Ralph Burns along with Kasim Aslam from the Perpetual Traffic podcast delve into the future of agencies and the evolving landscape of digital marketing. They explore the challenges agencies confront in an era dominated by automation and AI, emphasize the necessity for agencies to deliver value beyond mere media buying, and underscore the significance of possessing profound expertise and fostering client success. Additionally, the hosts discuss the oversaturation of the agency market, the transition from percentage-of-spend management fees to performance-based models, and the potential for agencies to introduce equity or profit-sharing arrangements. Ultimately, the conversation underscores the imperative for agencies to adapt and innovate to thrive in the dynamic digital marketing industry. Don’t forget to help us grow by subscribing and liking on YouTube! Check out more of Eric’s content (Leveling UP YT) and Neil’s videos (Neil Patel YT) TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES: (00:00) Introduction to the collaboration between Perpetual Traffic and Marketing School. (00:23) Ralph introduces himself and his agency, Tier Eleven. (03:18) Kasim talks about the challenges agencies face and the need for value-producing services. (05:05) Eric asks Ralph and Kasim about the future of agencies and the percentage of ad spend management fees. (06:07) Kasim discusses the obsolescence of media buying agencies and the need for deeper services. (07:05) Ralph talks about the oversaturation of agencies and the outdated model of selling specific ad platforms. (08:11) Ralph mentions the importance of client success and the need to prioritize clients over profit. (09:56) Ralph discusses the challenges faced by agencies and the high turnover rate. (12:03) Percentage of media model can still work if providing value. (13:06) Agencies need strategy and problem-solving skills to provide value. (14:54) Agencies' value and multiples are more realistic now, not artificially inflated. (16:10) 15-20x multiples for agencies will not come back. (16:49) Platforms will win with automation, agencies need to find value outside of that. (17:50) Charging per meeting, page, or lead can be an alternative pricing model. (19:13) Big corporations prefer fixed costs, not performance-based pricing. (20:36) Agencies may seek equity or profit-sharing to justify the effort and value provided. (21:43) Large accounts may still pay fees, but small accounts may require alternative pricing models. (22:23) SMBs struggle to afford comprehensive agency services. (23:19) Agencies need to understand the value of each customer to determine pricing. (25:08) That’s it for today! Don’t forget to rate, review, and subscribe! Go to https://www.marketingschool.io to learn more! Leave Some Feedback: What should we talk about next? Please let us know in the comments below Did you enjoy this episode? If so, please leave a short review. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric’s ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel X @ericosiu See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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MrBeast's SaaS Decision - A Mistake?, Pay per Crawl Launches for AI, Listicles Are Back, Why You Need Them for LLMs, How LLMs Will Rank You in the Future, AI Content Farms Are the New Arbitrage?

MrBeast's SaaS Decision - A Mistake?, Pay per Crawl Launches for AI, Listicles Are Back, Why You Need Them for LLMs, How LLMs Will Rank You in the Future, AI Content Farms Are the New Arbitrage?

In this episode #3003, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss MrBeast's ViewStats and the AI thumbnail backlash, Cloudflare's pay-to-play model, and how LLMs are shaping the future of SEO. They also cover the challenges of monetizing AI content and the potential of hiring AI automation interns to boost workflow efficiency. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) MrBeast's ViewStats and AI Thumbnail Controversy (02:43) Cloudflare's Pay-to-Play Model (05:23) The Future of LLMs and SEO (09:53) AI Content and Monetization Challenges (12:31) AI Automation Interns and Workflow Efficiency To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

10 Juli 20min

The Collapse of Jaguar, How Meta Is Buying OpenAI Right in Front of Us, AI Mode vs. Classic Search Data, ChatGPT 5 Will Be INSANE

The Collapse of Jaguar, How Meta Is Buying OpenAI Right in Front of Us, AI Mode vs. Classic Search Data, ChatGPT 5 Will Be INSANE

In this episode #3002, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the collapse of Jaguar due to marketing missteps and the importance of understanding core audiences. They dive into Meta's AI acquisitions, compare user behavior in AI mode versus classic search, highlight ChatGPT's dominance, and share insights on investment strategies in tech companies. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Collapse of Jaguar: A Marketing Misstep (02:45) Understanding Core Audiences in Marketing (06:06) Meta's Strategic Moves in AI Acquisition (08:57) AI Mode vs. Classic Search: User Behavior Insights (12:05) ChatGPT's Dominance in the AI Landscape (15:03) Investment Strategies in Tech Companies To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

9 Juli 23min

Where Remote Work Fails

Where Remote Work Fails

In this episode #3001, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the challenges and benefits of remote work, the push for in-person collaboration to boost accountability, and how direct communication impacts team productivity. They also touch on optimizing processes for efficiency and share innovative marketing strategies used by brands like Michelin and Red Bull. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Importance of Talent Management (03:05) The Consequences of Remote Work (05:57) Communication Challenges in Remote Teams (08:55) The Push for In-Person Collaboration (11:46) Direct Communication and Accountability (16:39) Optimizing Processes for Efficiency (19:54) Innovative Marketing Strategies To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

8 Juli 24min

Alex Becker's Smart YouTube SaaS Strategy, What Is Spectacle Marketing?

Alex Becker's Smart YouTube SaaS Strategy, What Is Spectacle Marketing?

In this episode #3000, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss how to leverage YouTube for business growth by focusing on content quality over flashy production. They explore the good and bad of spectacle marketing while analyzing creators like Alex Becker and Mr. Beast. The episode wraps with insights on the future of marketing and integrating AI to stay ahead. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) YouTube Strategies and Success Stories (03:03) Content Creation and Video Production Insights (05:57) Spectacle Marketing: The Good and the Bad (11:56) The Future of Marketing and AI Integration To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

7 Juli 19min

Inside The Mind of a $500M Entrepreneur | Jess Mah

Inside The Mind of a $500M Entrepreneur | Jess Mah

Jess Mah went from an immigrant family in a small New York apartment to building a $500M net worth—without a trust fund. In this episode, we unpack the mindset, strategies, and wild experiments that got her there. And wait until you hear her take on why most people never get rich. Let’s dive in! TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) Understanding Wealth and Mindset (02:45) The Role of Networking in Success (06:03) Navigating Business and Personal Growth (08:49) Tax Strategies for Entrepreneurs (11:59) The Pursuit of Ikigai and Personal Goals (35:28) Defining Sona Genius (36:47) Resource Allocation in Business (38:29) Role Models and Entrepreneurial Paths (39:54) The Importance of Focused Involvement (41:48) Different Flavors of Entrepreneurs (43:02) Innovative Marketing Strategies (44:51) Team Structure and Operations (46:46) Intentional Relationships (47:37) Pursuit of Excellence: Kodawari vs. Kaizen (49:34) Long-Term Business Building (52:20) Embracing Pain in Business (54:46) Cutting-Edge Science and Longevity (56:39) Daily Habits and Learning Stacks (58:57) Gold Diggers and Relationship Dynamics (01:01:20) Spending Habits and Celebrating Wins (01:05:55) AI Innovations and Future Trends (01:07:20) Book Recommendations and Mindset Shifts (01:09:44) Experiments in Dating and Life To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

4 Juli 1h 14min

Do It or Don't, and Stop Wanting It

Do It or Don't, and Stop Wanting It

In episode #2999, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss the mindset behind taking action, the grit required to build a business, and how personal growth and priorities evolve over time. They share lessons from the early days of Single Grain, highlight the emotional toll of leadership, and talk about balancing ambition with family and purpose. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) Do It or Don’t: Taking Ownership (02:42) The Reality of Startup Pressure (06:34) Hard Lessons from Single Grain (10:21) The Emotional Weight of Leadership (13:17) Balancing Work, Family, and Purpose To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

3 Juli 20min

AI SEO Is a GRIFT

AI SEO Is a GRIFT

In episode #2998, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss how traditional SEO remains relevant despite AI advancements. They explore the evolution of content creation, the balance between competition and collaboration, and how seasonal trends affect agency revenue. The conversation underscores the importance of adaptability and maintaining human-focused strategies. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Evolution of SEO in the Age of AI (04:15) Understanding the Role of Content Creation (10:00) Navigating Competition and Collaboration in Marketing (14:04) Seasonal Trends in Agency Revenue To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

2 Juli 17min

How to Grow Your Revenue With Dinners & Live Events

How to Grow Your Revenue With Dinners & Live Events

In this episode #2997, Eric Siu and Neil Patel discuss how networking dinners and live events can drive revenue by building strong relationships in B2B. They share insights on curating the right guests, running events smoothly, and using personal connections for business growth. The episode wraps with thoughts on how AI is reshaping search engines and marketing strategy. TIME-STAMPED SHOW NOTES (00:00) The Power of Dinners in B2B Networking (13:36) Leveraging Live Events for Revenue Growth (19:27) The Future of AI and Search Engines To suggest a topic, go to https://www.marketingschool.io. For more content from Eric and Neil, check out Eric’s Leveling Up with Eric Siu YouTube channel and Neil’s Neil Patel YouTube channel. Connect with Us: Single Grain << Eric's ad agency NP Digital << Neil’s ad agency X @neilpatel, @ericosiu Instagram @neilpatel, @ericosiu Drop Us a Review If You Enjoyed the Episode!

1 Juli 27min

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