021 #IHRSA2017 LIVE: The Importance of APIs & Using Fitness Technology To Give

021 #IHRSA2017 LIVE: The Importance of APIs & Using Fitness Technology To Give

On episode 21 we're spotlighting a few exceptional conversations with some of the top influencers at the crossroads of fitness and technology, live after the FIT-C roundtable meeting during IHRSA 2017 in Los Angeles.

With the options and choices of club software systems on the rise, how do APIs and the ability for cross communication between platforms benefit the health club?

Be sure to stick around for our second half of the show with Josh Donovan from GIVE Fitness -->

In this first segment, were talking with fitness technology expert, Karl Etzel, about APIs (application program interfaces) and how they can help in both monetization and in serving the customer. For health club executives and owners, API functionality is an important topic to consider when purchasing technology systems.

Karl Etzel is a Transformation Catalyst, Strategic Decision-Maker, and Technical Expert in fitness technology known for his entrepreneurial drive in developing vision and setting strategic direction in the face of fast-changing technology and market dynamics through effectively aligning products/channels/end-users. With a deep background in health and fitness, cloud services / PaaS, online marketing, and SMB enablement, Karl brings a strong professional expertise to the industry space around program management and product management roles.

Karl is talking with us on the show about API's, or application program interfaces. Simply put, an application programming interface allows software systems to talk to one another. When you as a human being sit down to use a piece of software you use a user interface (UI), and when one piece of software wants to use another piece of software, they use an (API).

Listen To Episode 021 As Karl Uncovers
  • How the open API can increase revenue for clubs through smart data sharing
  • Why have APIs become so important in app and web service development
  • Who should know about APIs in the club and how does that relate to their fitness business
  • What are some common mistakes when planning APIs
  • The growing segments of APIs being used to create further developments of niche markets
  • Why "Agile Development" and live beta testing are now standard practices
  • How API's enable better business model innovation, which is one of the most powerful and sustainable competitive advantages
  • Why "owning the customer" looses in business vs. "serving the customer"
  • Security threats and issues to watch for with APIs
  • Using tethered CRM, POS, and ERP systems with APIs
  • Understanding the best types of data sets that are commonly used with an API in clubs
  • Karl's interest in the future of Cognitive Performance
Top 3 Takeaways From The Show
  • In the world of fitness tracking, we see many APIs, and there's now many different models emerging that will deliver even more value to the customer. The continued fracturing of the market and development of more niche models are exciting as the type of contextualized data that is being shared helps to monetize and serve customers in a progressive and powerful way.
  • As the market grows and as customers and consumers expect faster innovation that APIs will enable, one of the reasons people are resistant to opening APIs is because they don't want to "lose the customer they own" but the reality is that you don't own the customer, you serve the customer. The people who resist this idea of opening up is born out of a mentality of scarcity. What most people don't realize is how much revenue they can drive with an open API and a new mindset.
  • API's enable better business model innovation, which is one of the most powerful and sustainable competitive advantages in all industries. APIs make it really easy to innovate and build things quickly. The old-school engineering model of software development is gone and agile development, two week release cycles, live beta testing and rapid iteration are now the norm. For the club owner, karl believes that you don't necessarily want to share your data outward, but you do want to share it among your own systems until you get to a certain scale where population data could make things interesting. The real key with API integrations is to understand your segment in entirety and have a clear picture of what problem you're trying to solve. Power Quotes From Karl

"For the club operator, the question you want to ask is, does your solution vendor have an API that makes it easier for me to integrate my system with other solutions? If you are a technology company executive, you should be thinking about how APIs plug into your business at the strategy level. APIs are not just a technical detail that you can leave to engineering." - Karl Etzel on the Fitness + Technology Podcast

"APIs make it really easy to innovate and build things quickly. The old-school engineering model of software development is gone and agile development, two week release cycles, live beta testing and rapid iteration are now the norm. For the club owner, you don't necessarily want to share your data outward, but you do want to share it among your own systems until you get to a certain scale where population data could make things interesting. The real key with API integrations is to understand your segment in entirety and have a clear picture of what problem you're trying to solve." - Karl Etzel on the Fitness + Technology Podcast

Resources Mentioned From Karl Josh Donovan: Using Fitness Technology To Give

In this featured segment we're talking with the Owner of GIVE Fitness in Atascadero, CA Josh Donovan about technology focused member sales and engagement approaches that are changing the way for-profit and nonprofit businesses interact in health and fitness.

Josh is a U.S. Marine Corps veteran and 13-year fitness industry professional who years ago was looking for a way to use his experience and understanding of the fitness industry to "create a different type of fitness product" with a focus on using technology. After meeting Matt Holguin, the founder of Working to Give (WTG), a for-profit company with a singular purpose-driven business model, together, Donovan and Holguin created WTG's Fitness Division and in 2013, launched GIVE Fitness.

With Working To Give, 50% of its profits are reinvested in the firm to sustain growth, and the other 50% is contributed to the local community. Since its opening, the GIVE Fitness club has acquired over 3,000 members and donated more than $50,000 to Atascadero-area initiatives. A member of the Fitness Industry Technology Council, Josh Donovan believes it's important for the industry to integrate technology into the prospect and member experience to truly connect with consumers to understand them at their deepest needs and desires.

Listen To Episode 021 As Josh Uncovers
  • What Josh has learned over the past three years when it comes to understanding what technologies help club operations the absolute most.
  • Why GIVE Fitness is a "cashless environment" with no membership staff or sales team and why all sales are integrated through the website.
  • How to use technology to change the way for-profit businesses and nonprofit businesses interact
  • How to sustain nonprofit efforts combined with profitable health clubs in the fitness industry
  • Why being fluid and flexible when creating a culture in your health club is paramount
  • Why using social media in real time is a powerful tool for transparency and trust ability
  • Understanding the GIVE Fitness mission: "To exceed member expectations at every opportunity with fitness facilities that are maintained, affordable, accessible and safe."
  • Why giving members something they truly can belong to will increase revenue and lower attrition
  • With the obesity epidemic in our country, why the GIVE Fitness ownership deemed it imperative to open up the market in order to make fitness more accessible and affordable to the community of Atascadero.
  • On a larger scale, why GIVE Fitness has established a vision to "Transform the fitness industry by becoming pillars in the communities in which we conduct business. We will do this by generously donating 50% of our profits to programs that strengthen personal character, create value in people and provide opportunities for personal growth."
Top 3 Takeaways From The Show
  • Josh believes that you don't use people to get things, you use the things to help people. It's important to understand what your members want and what your members need. The first step when selecting and in using any piece of technology is to have a grasp on who you're serving and why they want you to serve them.
  • Josh and his business partner Matt are demonstrating that it is possible and profitable to have both a non-profit and for-profit business model using technology to thrive in our ever-changing fitness space. By providing an accessible fitness center for real people to come in, and driving sales through a cashless environment, this outside the box thinking has produced great results for GIVE Fitness.
  • With transparency in business for both nonprofits and for profit companies, in working together they must have a focus on communicating to staff that with all the technology devices out there, how do they use them to really help members? Because this entire process, in the end, is all about the member experience.
Power Quotes From Josh

"The heart of our business at GIVE Fitness is giving. We give 50% of our profits back to the community where we do business, so in order for that to happen we have to be a profitable fitness center first. Hitting member expectations and exceeding them becomes paramount because that has to happen before we have any funds to give. The obesity epidemic is real and it's something that I'm really passionate about. This is why I want to provide an accessible fitness center for people to better their lives, add years to their lives, and truly participate." - Josh Donovan on the Fitness + Technology Podcast

"In using new technologies, we had the unique opportunity in starting from the ground up to be intentional around creating our culture and to have it be something very specific. We all live in a world that's real time, so if I post something on Facebook about the gym and then post something about my personal life, our members don't see any differentiation around that." - Josh Donovan on the Fitness + Technology Podcast

Resources Mentioned From Josh Support This Podcast Thanks To Our Outstanding Sponsors
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  • The Fitness Industry Technology Council, your non-profit resource for reliable technology information supported by forward looking brands who are seeking to drive increased technology adoption in the fitness industry. Make a difference and join FIT-C at fittechcouncil.org today

  • Check out Bryan and his partner Robert Dyer's recent book "9 Partnership Principles: A Story of Life Lessons" which is available now on Amazon.com

021 #IHRSA2017 LIVE: The Importance of APIs, Using Fitness Technology To Give

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088 Hans Muench: Live From FitNation 2019 - Understanding The European Fitness Market

088 Hans Muench: Live From FitNation 2019 - Understanding The European Fitness Market

This week, on the Fitness + Technology podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes friend and colleague Hans Muench, principal of Muench Solutions Consulting, live from Amsterdam. Hans has served in a variety of executive roles including the Director of Europe for IHRSA, Chief Development Officer for Elixia Clubs, and currently serves as an advisor for VirtuaGym and Urban Sport Clubs. He is an ambassador for Gym Factory and acts as a consultant for suppliers and club operators. As one of the leading, trusted advisors in the European health club market, listeners will enjoy Hans's advice as he and Bryan discuss the overall shape of the marketplace and recap VirtuaGym's FitNation 2019. One Powerful Quote: 4:31: "There is much of a danger [technology] to be too early as too late…You can only really effectively do as much innovation as you can integrate and implement in your organization." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:26: Hans shares his perspective on the European marketplace and the misconception of "one size fits all" approach. He mentions how innovators are adapting in countries with low penetration rates and understanding the implications of political events such as BreExit in the UK. 6:26: Bryan asks Hans his opinion on the budget model in Europe and the focus on high volume, low cost sector of the industry. Hans says this strategy may succeed if clubs raise prices and build their presence to be dominant in the market. 9:21: Hans discusses how innovation and technology must be integrated into an organization at the right time. He warns, though, that there is a limit to how that can be implemented. He and Bryan also discuss how this is a competitive advantage and the opportunity it gives owners for scalability and value to their customers. 11:58: Bryan asks Hans about the idea behind VirtuaGym's FitNation 2019 Conference and the importance to its attendees showcasing keynote speakers, location, and topics discussed. 15:00: Hans encourages listeners to visit Europe to learn and understand from savvy operators and their innovation adoptions compared to the U.S. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.hans-muench.com https://fitnation.co Guest Contact Information: https://www.hans-muench.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/hans-muench-653346a/ https://twitter.com/Lazarusmunich https://www.facebook.com/hans.muench1

17 Okt 201917min

087 Sean Maguire: Legend Conference 2019 - Technology Adoption & Industry Trends In The UK

087 Sean Maguire: Legend Conference 2019 - Technology Adoption & Industry Trends In The UK

This week, on the Fitness + Technology podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes friend and colleague Sean Maguire, MD and founder of Legend Club Management Systems. As one of the leading technologists in the fitness facility industry, Sean founded Legend in 2002 as a software solution provider for fitness club operators in the UK. Legend now provides leisure management software and outsourced services to hundreds of fitness facility operators in the public, private, and educational sectors. Listeners will appreciate Sean's advice as he and Bryan discuss the future of technology and consumer trends in the market along with business philosophies and insights. Legend will be hosting its annual conference October 10th in Birmingham, UK. To learn more, click here. Bryan O'Rourke will keynote the event. One Powerful Quote: 4:50: The consumer has somehow overtaken us, but certainly, has stepped off our path, and we're trying to understand where that consumer is going to be. 4-10 Bullet Points (w/timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:58: Sean shares his perspective on the highly competitive marketplace of the UK from the consumer of today to the challenges of continuously developing and innovating Legend. 9:14: Sticking with theme of consumer power, Bryan asks Sean the importance of having a leading, enterprise platform system for servicing the consumer. Sean says owners must align the "how" and "why" of supplying technology for operations without sacrificing the future. 12:54: Sean discusses the differing outcomes in the public and private sector of lifestyle modification in the healthcare system. He and Bryan also discuss the importance of integrating customer support and frictionless service for the user experience. 20:10: Bryan asks Sean about the 2019 Legends Conference and the importance to its customers showcasing latest software, plans for the future, and the opportunity to meet with fellow operators. 23:12: Sean offers some pearls of wisdom for his listeners including the importance of listening to customers and stakeholders. 33:23: Bryan and Sean address the outreach and monetization opportunity for the inactive, mass population as the biggest problem of the public health sector. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.legendware.co.uk https://www.facebook.com/LegendWare/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-RWLcqGHnk Guest Contact information: https://www.legendware.co.uk/our-people https://www.linkedin.com/in/sean-maguire-88b0511/

9 Sep 201941min

086 Rick Mayo: Using Tech & Launching  A New Franchise Opportunity

086 Rick Mayo: Using Tech & Launching A New Franchise Opportunity

This week, on the Fitness + Technology podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes longtime friend Rick Mayo, founder and CEO of Alloy Personal Training Center. Initially started in 1992, Rick created Alloy in 2010, a consulting and licensing company as a platform for the Alloy personal training systems, with over 1000 clubs licensed worldwide. Rick shares his thoughts on how to effectively implement technology in the fitness realm, as well as the launch of Alloy's new franchise model. Listeners will appreciate Rick's whip-smart sense of humor and he and Bryan's rapport as they discuss the state of the industry today. One Powerful Quote: 6:00 In this day and age, you can't ignore [tech]. It's the big disruptor for everyone. You can say what you want about it, but if you talk negatively about it, it's just because you're scared of it. 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:10: Rick shares his journey, from working as a personal trainer to pay his way through college, to growth in the 90s to his current status as an icon in the fitness industry. 5:59: Rick shares how he has used tech to grow and advance his business over the years and how tech can be a vehicle to enhance human-centric activities like coaching. 8:50: Sticking with the theme of tech, Bryan asks Rick why some people seem to get lost when it comes to technology implementation, and how do to so effectively. Rick says most people see it as a way to leverage time and effort, but stresses how it can't be used as a way to replace human beings but a way to scale or enhance services, not an end in and of itself. 17:15: Rick discusses his company's plans to launch as a franchise, how he came to that decision and how it will benefit both the brand and consumers. 19:15 Rick offers some pearls of wisdom for his listeners from his 30+ years in the industry, including the importance of trust. Bullet List of Resources: http://www.alloypersonaltrainingcenter.com/ https://www.facebook.com/AlloyPersonalTrainingCenter/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCj2LnSyAUT8F9GPoXrCB8Pg Guest Contact information: http://rickmayo.com/#!/home https://twitter.com/CoachRMayo

23 Juli 201922min

085, Matt Wright: The Value of Technology For Member Experience

085, Matt Wright: The Value of Technology For Member Experience

This week, on the Fitness + Technology Podcast, Host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes Matt Wright, vice president of personal training and programming at City Fitness in Philadelphia, PA. Matt is a well-known trainer and at the cutting edge of programming, training and technology. Powerful Quote: 23:03 "I think it's important that every single member we can direct them towards what's going to be most accessible to them to build an exercise and healthy lifestyle as a behavior and habits and who they are as a person." Key topics discussed: 6:29 Bryan asks Matt's perspective on what technology brings to the table in terms of the relationship between clubs and trainers, and Matt defines service vs. experience and the role they play in that relationship. 11:22 Brian asks Matt if he sees fitness club orientation shifting from sales to hospitality, and Matt asks Brian how he has viewed fitness club orientation in terms of what fitness professionals are doing from an experience standpoint. 15:00 Matt comments on how he sees the fitness industry beginning to focus more on peoples behaviors and using technology integration to enhance members experiences with their instructors. 18:55 Matt discusses the importance of mastering a few technologies rather than being mediocre at many and shares the three focus points that his organization concentrates on. 23:40 Matt harps on the significance of getting people outside of their comfort zone and his belief in following the SEE method. 25:14 Matt shares a valuable piece of advice for fitness professionals and entrepreneurs on what they should focus on and remember throughout their career. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.cityfitnessphilly.com/ https://www.facebook.com/cityfitnessphilly/

2 Juli 201927min

084, Craig Miller: The Importance of Data & Digital Strategy

084, Craig Miller: The Importance of Data & Digital Strategy

This week, on the Fitness + Technology podcast, Bryan welcomes Craig Miller, Chief Digital & Information Officer for Planet Fitness, the largest health club chain in the world, with 13 million members across 1800 clubs. Miller came to Planet Fitness via Sonic Drive-In, and he shares with F+T listeners his wealth of experience in the digital sphere and how data can be used to provide a competitive advantage in the fitness field. One Powerful Quote: 8:00 What I found is that probably 70, 75% of a digital strategy is really very consistent [across industry]. It isn't until the go-to-market or consumer-facing aspect of your business is when it really begins to change. OR 12:35: The foundation of all digital strategies is data. 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 2:45 Guest Craig Miller talks about his first 18 months at Planet Fitness and how he ended up working at the world's largest health club chain. 4:40 Bryan asks Craig to talk about the Planet Fitness brand and its incredible growth and trajectory, which he attributes to strong fundamentals as well as a deliberate marketing campaign to recruit not the 20% of Americans who regularly go to the gym, but the 80% who do not. 7:40 Craig talks about what he sees as digital trends in the fitness industry, and how his experience working in other industries helps to inform and shape that view. 10:50: Craig shares the five objectives Planet Fitness uses to leverage the benefits of technology. 12:30: Bryan asks Craig to share his thoughts on the role data plays in Planet Fitness's digital strategy and how to use this volume of information in a meaningful way. 16:50 Craig shares his view of the at-home market, whether it is poised for continued growth, and what is holding this market back. 20:40 Craig reiterates to listeners the importance of staying true to a company's core values, and at 22:45, shares how thoughts on this year's IHRSA conference. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.planetfitness.com/ Guest Contact information: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigj91

25 Juni 201925min

083, Kenn Gudbergsen: The Mobile App Behind the IHRSA Passport Program

083, Kenn Gudbergsen: The Mobile App Behind the IHRSA Passport Program

On this week's Fitness + Technology podcast, host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes, from beautiful Copenhagen, Denmark, Kenn Gudbergsen, co-founder of TrainAway. TrainAway is a mobile app that provides users, especially travelers, access to gyms directly on their phone. Recently, TrainAway partnered with IHRSA to offer a passport program that provides IHRSA member with a 25% discount and participating clubs while they travel. Listen in as Kenn and Bryan discuss industry trends including the upswing in travelers, especially millennials, who still work out while they travel. One Powerful Quote: 22:22: "It's all about learning. We need to learn from our users, and we need to learn from the gyms. It's the fundamental feedback loop we need to succeed at...being able to learn from your users is so important." 4-10 Bullet Points (w/ timestamps) - Highlighting key topics discussed: 3:05: Kenn gives us a quick rundown of his business philosophy, as fully articulated in a recent article published in LinkedIn, and how this serves as the basis for TrainAway. 6:25: Bryan asks about the notion of convenience. How big is the marketplace for young, itinerant people like the ones TrainAway attracts? Kenn believes that the growth of people who describe themselves as fit and active is a huge factor. 8:35: Kenn shares the three main value propositions he hears from club owners who work with TrainAway to attract travelers. 11:25: Kenn talks about the partnership between IHRSA and TrainAway, which includes a passport program that provides IHRSA members with discounted access to clubs when they travel. 19:50: Bryan asks Kenn what inspired him to start Trainaway. 18:40: Kenn talks about what it's like to be an entrepreneur in the nordic region. 21:20: Kenn shares a few pieces of important information he has learned along the path of being an entrepreneur, including the importance of finishing work. Bullet List of Resources: https://www.trainaway.fit/ https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-fitness-industry-loses-out-potential-revenue-world-gudbergsen https://www.ihrsa.org/ https://www.ihrsa.org/improve-your-club/programs-for-members/passport/ Guest Contact information: https://twitter.com/kegu10ab?lang=en https://dk.linkedin.com/in/kenn-hougaard-gudbergsen-5b66a044

4 Juni 201925min

Episode 82, Bryan O'Rourke: IHRSA 2019 Roundtable

Episode 82, Bryan O'Rourke: IHRSA 2019 Roundtable

On this week's Fitness + Technology podcast, Bryan joins us direct from the 2019 IHRSA Conference for a member roundtable entitled "Club Technology: Trends, Opportunities & Threats." IHRSA is a global community of health and fitness professionals representing 8,000 member clubs in over 70 countries, whose goal is to grow, protect, and promote the health and fitness industry. This year, IHRSA members flocked to San Diego to learn from and network with the best and brightest in the industry, and Bryan, after a brief presentation, takes questions from club owners and operators in the audience, while other participants and audience members chime in with their own experience as club owners and operators.

28 Maj 20191h 2min

081 Cory Brightwell: Hospitality and The Challenges of Technology Adoption

081 Cory Brightwell: Hospitality and The Challenges of Technology Adoption

This week, on the Fitness + Technology podcast, Host Bryan O'Rourke welcomes Cory Brightwell, co-founder and CEO of Chuze Fitness, a low cost – high value business model that started in California and has expanded into multiple states. Cory has been in the company for over a decade, and he talks with us about hospitality and the challenges of technology adoption.

11 Apr 201926min

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