JSJ 268 Building Microsoft Office Extensions with JavaScript with Tristan Davis and Sean Laberee
JavaScript Jabber4 Juli 2017

JSJ 268 Building Microsoft Office Extensions with JavaScript with Tristan Davis and Sean Laberee

JSJ 268 Building Microsoft Office Extensions with Javascript with Tristan Davis and Sean LabereeThis episode is live at the Microsoft Build 2017 with Charles Max Wood and AJ O’Neal. We have Tristan Davis and Sean Laberee from the Office Team at Microsoft. Tune in and learn more about what’s new with Microsoft Office Extensions![00:01:25] – Introduction to Tristan Davis and Sean LabereeTristan Davis and Sean Laberee are Program Managers on the Microsoft Office team, focused on Extensibility.Questions for Tristan and Sean[00:01:45] – Extending Office functionality with Javascript Office isn’t just an application on Windows that runs on your PC. It is running on iPhone, iPad, Android tablet, and apps on the browser with Office Online. The team needs a new platform, add-ins, which allow you to build apps that run across all places. It’s HTML and Javascript. HTML for all the UI and a series of Javascript module calls for the document properties. Sometimes we call it OfficeJS.[00:03:20] – This works on any version of Office?It works on Office on Windows, Mac, Online and iPad.[00:03:55] – HTML and CSS suck on mobile?There are things that you’re going to want to do when you know you’re running on a mobile device. If you look at an add-in running on Outlook for iPhone, the developer does a lot of things to make that feel like part of the iPhone UI. Tristan believes that you could build a great add-in for Office using HTML and JavaScript.[00:05:20] – Are these apps written with JavaScript or you have a Native with WebView?Office itself is Native. All of it is Native code but the platform is very much web. The main piece of it is pointing at the URL. Just go load that URL. And then, you can also call functions in your JavaScript.[00:06:35] – Why would you do this? How does it work?The add-in platform is a way to help developers turn Word, Excel and PowerPoint into the apps that actually solve user’s business problems. The team will give you the tools with HTML and JavaScript to go and pop into the Word UI and the API’s that let you go manipulate the paragraph and texts inside of Word. Or in Excel, you might want to create custom formulas or visualizations. The team also let people use D3 to generate their own Excel charts.And developers want to extend Office because it’s where a lot of business workers spend their days 0 in Outlook, Teams, Word, Excel.[00:10:00] – How did this get delivered to them?There are 2 ways to get this delivered. One, there’s an Office Store. Second, if you go into Word, Excel, and PowerPoint, there’s a store button and you can see tons of integrations with partners.For enterprises, IT can deploy add-ins to the users’ desktops without having stress about deploying MSI’s and other software deployments that the web completely rids off. The add-ins make a whole lot of pain the past completely go away.[00:11:00] – Everybody in the company can use a particular plug-in by distributing it with Office?That’s right. You can go to Office 365 add-in experience. Here’s the add-in and you can to specific people or everyone who’s part of a group.For the developer’s perspective, if you have the add-in deployed to your client, you could actually push updates to the web service and your users get the updates instantly. It’s a lot faster turn-around model.[00:14:20] – What about conversations or bot integrations?There’s the idea of connectors at Teams. You can subscribe to this web book and it’ll publish JSON. When the JSON is received, a new conversation inside of Teams or Outlook will be created. For example, every time someone posts on Stack Overflow with one of the tags that team cares about, it posts on Outlook.It’s a great way to bring all the stuff. Rather than have 20 different apps that are shooting 20 different sets of notifications, it’s just all conversations in email, making do all the standard email things.And in the connector case, it’s a push model. The user could choose what notifications they want.You’d also learn things like bots. You can have bots in Teams and Skype. The users can interact with them with their natural language.[00:18:40] – How about authentication?As long as you’re signed into Office, you can call JavaScript API to give you an identity token for the sign in user and it will hand you a JWT back. That’s coming from Azure Active Directory or from whatever customer directory service. That’s standard.If you want to do more, you can take that identity token and you can exchange that for a token that can call Microsoft graph. This app wants to get access to phone, are you okay with that? Assuming the user says yes, the user gets a token that can go and grab whatever data he wants from the back-end.[00:20:00] – Where does it store the token?That’s up to the developer to decide how they want to handle that but there are facilities that make sure you can pop up a dialog box and you can go to the LO-flow. You could theoretically cache it in the browser or a cookie. Or whatever people think is more appropriate for the scenario.[00:20:55] – What does the API actually look like from JavaScript?If you’re familiar with Excel UI, you can look at Excel API. It’s workbook.worksheets.getItem() and you can pass the name of the worksheet. It can also pass the index of the worksheet.[00:22:30] – What’s the process of getting setup?There’s a variety of options. You can download Office, write XML manifest, and take a sample, and then, side loads it into Office. You can also do that through web apps. There’s no install required because you can go work against Office Online. In the Insert menu, there’s a way to configure your add-ins. There’s upload a manifest there and you can just upload the XML. That’s going to work against whatever web server you have set up.So it’s either on your local machine or up in the cloud. It’s as much as like regular web development. Just bring your own tools.[00:24:15] – How do you protect me as a plug-in developer?There’s an access add-in that will ask your permission to access, say, a document. Assume, they say yes, pipes are opened and they can just go talk to those things. But the team also tries to sandbox it by iframes. It’s not one page that has everybody’s plug-ins intermingle that people can pole at other people’s stuff.[00:27:20] – How do you support backward compatibility?There are cases where we change the behavior of the API. Every API is gated by requirement set. So if a developer needs access to a requirement set, he gets an aggregate instead of API’s that he can work with but it isn’t fixed forever.But it’s not at that point yet where we end up to remove things completely. In Office JS, we’ve talked about API’s as one JavaScript library but really, it’s a bootstrap that brings in a bunch of other pieces that you need.[00:30:00] – How does that work on mobile? Do they have to approve download for all components?You can download components by using the browser that the operating system gives. It’s another one of the virtues of being based on the web. Every platform that has a web browser can have JavaScript execution run-time. It allows for the way that their app guidelines are written.[00:33:15] – How about testing?It’s a place where there’s still have work to do. There’s a bunch of open-source projects that partners have started to do that. What they’ve done is they’ve built a testing library. Whatever the mock is, it's just a thing on Github. It is open-source friendly. So the team could be able to contribute to it. “Here’s an interesting test case for this API. I want to make sure that it behaves like this.[00:35:50] – Could you write it with any version for JavaScript e.g. TypeScript?A Huge chunk of the team is big TypeScript fans. They’ve done a lot of work to make sure that TypeScript experience is excellence.Type is basically a collection of typing files for TypeScript. There’s a runtime process that parses your TypeScript, gives you feedback on your code, and checks for errors. You can also run it in the background.There’s an add-in called Script Lab. Script Lab is literally, you hit the code button and you get a web IDE right there. You can go start typing JavaScript code, play with API’s, and uses TypeScript by default. It’ll just actually load your code in the browser, executes, and you can start watching.[00:39:25] – Are there any limitations on which JavaScript libraries you can pull in?There a no limitations in place right now. There are partners that use Angular. There are partners that are big React fans. If you’re a web dev, you can bring whatever preferences around frameworks, around tools, around TypeScript versus JavaScript.[00:45:20] – What’s the craziest thing you’ve seen done with this API?Battleship was pretty cool. There’s also Star Wars entering credits theme for PowerPoint.[00:46:40] – If a developer is building a plug-in and get paid for it, does Microsoft take credit for that?There are 2 ways that folks can do it. You can do paid add-ins to the store. Either you do the standard perpetual 99 cents or you can do subscriptions, where it’s $2.99/month. Tristan encourages that model because integrations are just a piece of some larger piece of software.But Microsoft is not in the business of trying to get you to pay me a little bit of 10 cents a dollar. It’s really in the business of making sure that you can integrate with Office as quickly as possibly can.When the users go to the store, they can use the same Microsoft account that you use to buy Xbox games or movies in the Xbox, Windows apps in the Windows store.[00:52:00] – The App ModelIf folks are interested in the app model, they should go to dev.office.com to learn more about it because that’s where all the documentation is. Check out our Github. Right there in the open, there’s the spec. Literally, the engineers who

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037 JSJ Promises with Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal

037 JSJ Promises with Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal

PanelKris Kowal (twitter github blog) Domenic Denicola (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 02:41 - PromisesAsynchonous programming 05:09 - Using Promises from top to bottom07:08 - DomainsNodeConf SummerCamp07:55 - Q10:22 - q.nfbind11:15 - Q vs jQueryYou’re Missing the Point of PromisesComing from jQuery15:41 - long-stack-tracesturn chaining JavaScriptStackTraceApi: Overview of the V8 JavaScript stack trace API (error.prepare stack trace)19:36 - Original Promises/A spec and Promises/A+ specwhen.jsPromises Test SuiteUnderscore deferred24:22 - .thenChai as Promised26:58 - Nesting Promisesspread method28:38 - Error Handlingcauseway 32:57 - Benefits of PromisesError Handling Multiple Async at onceHandle things before and after they happen40:29 - task.js41:33 - Languagee programming languageCoffeeScript44:11 - Mocking Promises45:44 - Testing PromisesMocha as Promised PicksCode Triage (Jamison) The Creative Sandbox Guidebook (Joe) Steam (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) montage (Kris) montagejs / mr (Kris) CascadiaJS 2012 - Domenic Denicola (Domenic) Omnifocus (Chuck) Buckyballs (AJ) Transcript JOE: I can’t imagine your baby face with a beard, Jamison.JAMISON: I never thought I had a baby face.AJ: It was always a man face to me.JOE: Everybody who is 15 years younger than me has a baby face.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This show is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th. They'll be covering Jasmine, Backbone and CoffeeScript. For more information or to register, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody. Welcome to episode 37 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal.AJ: Yo, yo, yo, comin' at you live from the executive boardroom suite of Orem, Utah.CHUCK: Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Hey guys!CHUCK: Joe Eames.JOE: Hey there!CHUCK: Merrick ChristensenMERRICK: What's up.CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week we have some guests -- and that is Kris Kowal.KRIS: Hello. Yeah, Kowal.CHUCK: Kowal. OK. And Domenic Denicola. Did I say that right?DOMENIC: Denicola.CHUCK: Denicola.DOMENIC: It’s OK I got Americanized. That's probably the proper Italian pronunciation. Hi guys!CHUCK: I speak proper Italian, so probably.KRIS: Yeah and for what it’s worth, I think that the proper Polish is Kowal or something, but yeah.JAMISON: Kris, are you from the Midwest? You have kind of Minnesota-ish accent.KRIS: No. I'm actually unfortunately from somewhere in the suburbs of Los Angeles, but I grew up indoors and did listen to Prairie Home Companion. So I don’t know. Maybe.[laughter]CHUCK: Awesome. All right. So this week we are going to be talking about… actually there's one thing I need to announce before. If you are listening to this episode, you’ll probably notice a little bit of a difference with our sponsorship message. I actually left off one important piece to one of the sponsorship messages and that is for the Gaslight software training that's going to be in San Francisco, if you wanna sign up, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com and you can sign up there. They’ve been a terrific sponsor and I feel kind of bad that I botched that. But anyway,Special Guests: Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

7 Dec 201255min

036 JSJ DOM Rendering and Manipulating

036 JSJ DOM Rendering and Manipulating

PanelAJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:29 - Merrick Christensen is a new regular panel memberCascadiaJS 2012 JavaScript Modules: AMD, Require.js & Other Wins: Merrick Christensen 03:58 - DOM Rendering and ManipulatingBackbone.js Ext.js 06:49 - DifferencesLoad times Ease of use backbone.syphon 09:49 - The Ext.js approach vs the Backbone.js approach15:51 - Templating enginesdust.js handlebars.js mustache.js hogan.js underscore jquery 16:46 - handlebars.js vs mustache.js18:08 - Templating engines (cont’d)Mold.js Ember.js Metamorph.js Knockout.js Pure.js Plates.js 26:34 - Difference between the click handler and the delegate function31:49 - Template engines and string generations33:01 - Writing templates and learning APIs35:03 - Ext.js issues39:32 - Dojo PicksAldo (AJ) On Being A Senior Engineer (Jamison) Joshua James: From the Top of Willamette Mountain (Merrick) sparks.js (Merrick) grunt.js (Merrick) knit-js (Merrick) Functional Programming for the Object-Oriented Programmer by Brian Marick (Chuck) New Media Expo 2013 (Discount code Wood20) (Chuck) Skyfall (Joe) LEGO Lord of the Rings (Joe) Global Day of Coderetreat 2012 (Joe) Transcript JOE: If AJ talks on JavaScript Jabber, does anybody hear it?CHUCK: [laughs]AJ: Not if I don’t have my function key pressed down.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 36 of the JavaScript Jabber Show! This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal.AJ: Yo, yo, comin' at you from the cowboy sphere of Orem, Utah.CHUCK: We also have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: I'm coming at you from bathrobe sphere of Orem, Utah. It’s much more comfortable than a cowboy sphere.CHUCK: We have Joe Eames.JOE: Comin’ at you from a cluttered office.CHUCK: And Merrick Christensen.MERRICK: Hey guys!CHUCK: So, Merrick is new. Merrick, do you wanna introduce yourself real quick?MERRICK: Sure. My name is Merrick Christensen. I've been developing JavaScript for a number of years -- big fan of it. You can find me on twitter and GitHub and all that kind of stuff.JOE: Did you just recently speak at any conferences?MERRICK: Yeah actually.[laughter]I just spoke at CascadiaJS on require.js. And actually, what's really cool is they just barely put the videos for that up today and I was so stoked at how high quality. So to the CascadiaJS team, you guys  did an excellent job.JOE: Are the videos free?MERRICK: Oh yeah. All free up on YouTube. And there’s some cool stuff -- there's stuff on like robots -- it was an amazing conference. The organizers just did an amazing job.CHUCK: Sounds like fun. Was that up in the North West somewhere?MERRICK: Yeah it was actually in Seattle.CHUCK: Nice.MERRICK: Yeah it was beautiful.JAMISON: I heard that as one of the after party things, they took everybody up to see the James Bond movie?MERRICK: They did yeah. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

30 Nov 201248min

035 JSJ node-webkit

035 JSJ node-webkit

PanelJamison Dance (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:15 - node-webkitSimilar to PhoneGap Chrome native apps Chromium05:31 - Event loops and the browsers06:53 - Example appsLight Table app.js 07:42 - node-webkit vs app.js10:00 - ChromeChrome Apps: JavaScript Desktop Development 17:44 - Security implications25:11 - Testing node-webkit applications27:19 - Getting a web app into a native app31:33 - Creating Your First AppJS App with Custom ChromeChromeless Browser Chromeless replacement PicksHow mismanagement, incompetence and pride killed THQ's Kaos Studios (Jamison) The Insufficiency of Good Design by Sarah Mei (Jamison) app.js (Tim) node-webkit (Tim) Macaroni Grill’s Butternut Asiago Tortellaci (AJ) JCPenney (AJ) Mac OS Stickies (Chuck) Fieldrunners (Chuck) Node Knockout Transcript AJ: Let’s talk about boring stuff. What did you eat for breakfast?TIM: I had donuts.AJ: That sounds nutritious and delicious.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 35 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel we have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Hi guys!CHUCK: Tim Caswell.TIM: Hello!CHUCK: And AJ O’Neal. And I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. This week, we are going to be talking about ‘Node-webkit’. It seems like Tim is the most familiar with it, so why don’t you jump in and tell us a little bit about it?TIM: All right. Basically the idea is to make desktop apps using Node and then having HTML as your display layer for your widgets. And I start a project doing this several years ago from Topcube, but I failed miserably because I'm not that good of a C engineer. And since then, a few projects have taken up the idea. Node-webkit is one done by Intel and the main engineer there is Roger Wang. So on Roger Wang’s GitHub there is node-webkit. And the other popular one is called ‘app.js’ and I think there is a couple others as well. And some other people have taken over my Topcube project and they use it for some maps app. And all these projects had the basic idea of you have a desktop native app that has Node and node-webkit inside of it.CHUCK: So, is it kind of like PhoneGap or some of these other things for mobile?TIM: Yeah. It’s similar to PhoneGap in that, you get more privileges than a browser would have in a more native experience. Instead of just the PhoneGap extensions, you get all of Node -- you get the full Node environment -- which means you can use all that existing libraries and ecosystem.JAMISON: So how does this compare to the Chrome native apps thing? Because I know that they are more --- already have some like JS APIs that let you touch stuff on the server or things like that. Is this just – it’s not sandbox at all?TIM: Yeah. I mean, this is a native app. It’s not in your browser at all. It bundles its own webkit.JAMISON: Oooh.TIM: It’s more like -- what was that flash thing they had years ago?AJ: ‘Adobe Air’?TIM: Air yeah. It’s like Adobe Air that doesn’t suck. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

16 Nov 201244min

034 JSJ Ember.js

034 JSJ Ember.js

PanelTrek Glowacki (twitter github Trek by trek) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 02:18 - Ember.js (twitter, github, site)03:17 - Based on/Inspired by SproutCore?05:39 - The Rails of JavaScript?“Magical” 06:29 - todomvcBackbone.js    11:21 - Pulling pieces of Ember.js12:07 - Struggles with using Ember.jsLearning API can and does change frequently The applications that Ember.js targets are new New patterns 18:45 - Developer style22:59 - Rendering24:42 - Philosophy of Ember.js27:00 - Ember.js routerState machines32:31 - Spending time learning Ember.js35:06 - Frameworks and Wordpress41:57 - Event loop42:49 - APIObject systemBinding syntaxHandlebars.js46:38 - Rendering and nesting views PicksPromo Only (AJ) TinyToCS: Tiny Transactions on Computer Science (Jamison) HandBrake (Chuck) BitTorrent (Chuck) Transmission (Chuck) Presto 04213 Electronic Digital Timer (Chuck) Crafty.js (Trek) About Face 3: The Essentials of Interaction Design by Robert Reimann (Trek) Tucker Teaches the Clockies to Copulate by David Erik Nelson (Trek) Transcript  JAMISON: And I’m looking sexy.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 33 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel we have AJ O’Neal.AJ: Yo, yo, yo. Comin’ at you live from DJ sphere of Orem, Utah.CHUCK: We also have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Oh, gosh you get to ----. I'm sorry AJ; your intro was so good. [laughs]CHUCK: [laughs] I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest and that is Trek Glowacki?TREK: Oh, very close. Good job.CHUCK: [laughs] Do you wanna straighten it up for us?TREK: You can just call me Trek. Everyone does.CHUCK: Ok. How many generations removed are you from Poland or whatever?TREK: So I'm a first generation American. My parents are foreign. But my dad is Belgian, not Polish nationally, but of a Polish decent.CHUCK: Oh, OK. That's interesting.TREK: Yeah. My driver’s license is weird and everything is misspelled. My voter registration is spelled wrong. It’s kind of a nightmare. It’s why I just go by Trek. I try to snag @trek as a user handle everywhere. So I'm @trek on Twitter-- just makes my life easier.CHUCK: Yeah. That makes sense. I have to say that, if your voter registration is messed up, I hope you are voting for that “other guy”. And I'm not going to be specific about my --- because I don’t wanna start a firestorm on a programing podcast for that, so we’ll just leave it there.Anyway, we are going to be talking about Ember.js today. Now, I know that Yehuda and Tom Dale work on it. Do you work on it too or are you just kind of an expert user?TREK: A little bit of both. I hang out on the secret volcano base that we have, with Yehuda and Tom and my contributions are--JAMISON: That's why your audio quality is so good.TREK: Yeah, we are at the volcano base, it’s really is beaming to a satellite in space.CHUCK: Yeah volcano net is awesome.TREK: So,Special Guest: Trek Glowacki. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

2 Nov 201255min

033 JSJ enyo.js

033 JSJ enyo.js

PanelBen Combee (twitter github blog) Gray Norton (twitter) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeS... Special Guests: Ben Combee and Gray Norton. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

26 Okt 201257min

032 JSJ Angular.js

032 JSJ Angular.js

PanelMisko Hevery (twitter github blog) Igor Minar (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 01:33 - Angular.js (twitter github blog)02:33 - Angular.js compared to other frameworks04:03 - How does it work?05:22 - Cost06:06 - HTML Compiler07:02 - Directives10:31 - Working with browsers in the future12:07 - Dependency injection16:50 - Main method18:48 - Using require.js20:53 - How would you build a TreeView widget in Angular?24:07 - Where data is stored24:42 - Scope29:47 - Syncing to serversRESTClient 31:34 - Testability & Services in Angular39:04 - Benefits of AngularDependency injection Directives PicksThe Arrow (Joe) Font Awesome (Tim) Testacular (Igor) Plunker (Igor) The Better Angels of our Nature: Steven Pinker (Misko) XCOM (Jamison) The Foundation Series: Isaac Asimov (Jamison) Influencer: The Power to Change Anything (AJ) Transcript [This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]JAMISON: Hi everybody and welcome to episode 32 of the JavaScript Jabber podcast. I'm not your host Charles Max Wood, I'm Jamison Dance. Chuck is at a conference this week. So, he is not here. We have with us Joe Eames.JOE: Hey everybody!JAMISON: Tim Caswell.TIM: Hello.JAMISON: And we have two special guests. I'm going to mangle your names, so I'm sorry. It’s Misko Hevery.MISKO: Misko Hevery. Yeah, thank you.JAMISON: Misko Hevery and Igor Minar?IGOR: Minar. Yeah.JAMISON: Great. You guys wanna introduce yourself really quick?MISKO: Sure. So, this is Misko Hevery, original creator of Angular.js.IGOR: Hi everybody! I'm Igor. I joined Misko about 2 years ago on this venture of creating better browser and better environment for creating client-side applications.JAMISON: And if you can’t tell, we are going to talk about Angular.js this week. So, I know it is kind of a Google project now. Did it start out that way?MISKO: It started out with something I was working on and eventually I've open sourced it at a product with Google internal application and just gotten such a rave reviews and new features that people actually says, “Hey why don’t you work on this full time and turn in on to a real product?” So, that's how it’s started.JAMISON: Oh, wow. So, there’s actually a team in Google who are working on Angular as their job?MISKO: Yeah.IGOR: Yes.JAMISON: That's awesome.IGOR: It’s just two of us here now, but we have a bunch of other people working full time on Angular.js and also main contributors--JAMISON: Oh, go ahead sorry.IGOR: There is a team behind Angular.js.JAMISON: Do you think you can give an overview and kind of a comparison to contrast Angular to some of the other MVC frameworks that people like before you? I mean, Backbone I guess is what most people know.  So, what makes Angular different from Backbone? How does it work?MISKO: So, I have never used Backbone besides it’s framework. But, my understanding is that Backbone is basically you have declare model and then launch on changes on its mode. And the way it does so is that there is a model class object. And whenever you modify the models that use special getters and setters methods, the Backbone know about the changes. So, this is pretty different from Angular because we don’t require you to inherit from anything. We have special getters and setters. Basically, any JavaScript object can be a model. So, that’s one big difference.JAMISON: But you can still observe the changes on objects like that?MISKO: Right.Special Guests: Igor Minar and Miško Hevery. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

19 Okt 201250min

031 JSJ history.js

031 JSJ history.js

PanelBenjamin Lupton (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Discussion 01:00 - Benjamin Lupton Introduction and Backgroundhistory.js (twitter / github) Front-end and back-end developer Based in Australia Works full-time open-source 03:19 - history.jsHTML5 History API Hashbang 09:26 - URL appearances10:32 - Maintaining states12:23 - (Joe joins the podcast)12:30 - Framework usage13:42 - Overriding history.js17:33 - JavaScript community and evolution21:10 - Particular problems that history.js is geared toward solving22:07 - Sites implementing history.js37signals 25:18 - Other libraries that do the same thing26:12 - Page reloads32:14 - Browser limitations34:37 - Live event in jQuery35:42 - history.js: a deep or shallow library?37:43 - Resources for history.js Picksbooq: Vyper XL2 (Jamison) Jordan Santell (Jamison) Star Wars: Red Harvest (Joe) Nitro Circus: The Movie (Joe) Arrested Development (Joe) f.lux (Chuck) docpad (Benjamin) Paulo Coelho (Benjamin) Transcript BENJAMIN: Anything important, I hear from my wife. So, I could finally have that thing where Facebook doesn’t infiltrate my mind with cat pictures anymore. [This episode is presented to you by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 31 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Howdy Doody!CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest and that's Benjamin Lupton.BENJAMIN: Hello.CHUCK: He is the author of history.js and why don’t you introduce yourself? Because that's all I really know about you other than history.js and you are many time zones away.BENJAMIN: [laughs] Yeah. So, I have been doing JavaScript pretty much my entire life and been doing it professionally since about 2006, full time. And over the time, I've developed some open source project. One of them became quite popular and that was History.js it makes HTML5 History API that was compatible with like hashes and things like that. We’ll go into that late. Yeah, that became really popular. Now I other stuff with Node a lot as well.CHUCK: Ooh. A front end and a back end person.BENJAMIN: Only because I'm Node.JAMISON: You are basically like a unicorn.CHUCK: Yeah.JAMISON: You are a mystical creature.CHUCK: You are too well rounded. You are going to put us to shame.BENJAMIN: Well, it’s easier being with Node.CHUCK: Yeah, that's true.JAMISON: Yeah it’s true. Where do you work?BENJAMIN: I work for my own company right now. We’ve been doing JavaScript constancy for a few start-ups in Australia. And now, I'm looking at going completely full time with just the open source stuff.CHUCK: Oh, cool. How do you manage going full time open source?BENJAMIN: Right now, we’ve got premium support. I'm going with a few companies and we are looking into other options as well.CHUCK: Right. Yeah. I'm in the same boat with my podcast. I’d love to go full time podcast and less full time consulting.JAMISON: So the real question is, if I pay you enough money, will you put a gigantic ASCII art picture of my face in the History.js source code?BENJAMIN: Perhaps.JAMISON: Okay. We’ll have to talk after.CHUCK: I’m going to have to figure out how to do that. Let’s see... Image to ASCII art…BENJAMIN: In podcast.CHUCK: Yeah and then I’ll…JAMISON: Oh Chuck, you could do it so there’s face that shows up like in the waveforms on the sounds.CHUCK: [laughs] I don’t know about that.Special Guest: Benjamin Lupton. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

15 Okt 201250min

030 JSJ Learning & Teaching JavaScript with Noel Rappin

030 JSJ Learning & Teaching JavaScript with Noel Rappin

PanelNoel Rappin (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Discussion 00:52 - Works in training and talent development for Groupon00:56 - Author of Rails Test Prescriptions and upcoming Master Space and Time with JavaScript01:21 - Writing a book about JavaScript02:33 - Focus of the bookPart 1: Jasmine and jQuery and the JavaScript Object Model Part 2: Extended examples of jQuery Part 3: Backbone Part 4: Ember 03:46 - Self-published authors05:15 - Approaches and mindsets to learning JavaScript06:04 - “Gotchas!” and bad features in Javascript09:17 - Modeling JavaScript for beginners11:23 - (AJ joins the podcast)11:42 - Resources/Classes for learning JavaScriptGood Parts Book: Douglas Crockford JavaScript Patterns: Stoyan Stefanov Eloquent JavaScript: A Modern Introduction to Programming: Marijn Haverbeke Maintainable JavaScript: Nicholas C. Zakas 13:54 - Hiring people with JavaScript experience at Groupon15:12 - Training workshops17:00 - Getting new hires up to speed quicklyPairing Mentoring Lectures Workshops 21:38 - Book LearningYou can learn at your own pace But it’s hard to ask questions to a book 22:51 - How Noel gained expertise in JavaScript24:38 - Code reading and learning to program a language26:18 - Teaching people JavaScript as their very first language31:55 - Classroom layout33:42 - Online trainingKahn Academy Computer ScienceCode AcademyStarter League40:00 - Finding a mentorStack Overflow PicksShrines by Purity Ring (Jamison) Learnable Programming: Bret Victor (Jamison) Mob Software: Richard P. Gabriel & Ron Goldman (Jamison) Monoprice.com (AJ) ZREO: Zelda Reorchestrated (AJ) The Official Twitter App (Chuck) Fluid App (Chuck) Try Jasmine! (Noel) Justin Searls (Noel) The Atrocity Archives: Charles Stross (Noel) Futurity: A Musical by The Lisps (Noel) Transcript NOEL: I’m trying to figure out where the chat is in this stupid Skype interface.JAMISON: Just imagine the worst place it could possibly be and that’s where it is.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by The Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 30 of the JavaScript Jabber show! This week on our panel we have, Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Hey guys!CHUCK: I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week, we have a special guest and that’s Noel Rappin!NOEL: Hey everybody!CHUCK: For the people who don’t know who you are, you want to introduce yourself, Noel?NOEL:  Sure. I currently work in training and talent development for Groupon. And I am the author of previously “Rails Test Prescriptions” and currently a self-published book called “Master Time and Space with JavaScript”, which you can get at noelrappin.com. I need to spell that out, right? N-o-e-l-r-a-p-p-i-n.comCHUCK: So I’m little curious, before we get into the topic which is learning and teaching JavaScript, how did you get into writing a book about JavaScript? What’s your background there?NOEL: You know, it actually relates to teaching and learning JavaScript. I think, I was like… a lot of long time web devs. I spent my first round as a web consultant in around, turn of the century 2000’s. I spent time trying to talk clients out of JavaScript stuff because it was such a pain in the neck. And I kind of got away from it for awhile and came back a couple of years ago to realize that basically, everything had changed and they were actually usable tools now.And last summer, I was working with a… at that time,Special Guest: Noel Rappin. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

4 Okt 201251min

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