JSJ 265 Wade Anderson and Ramya Rao on Visual Studio Code

PanelBrian Turley (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 02:11 - CSS GripesSassScalable and Modular Architecture for CSS (SMACSS)CSS316:32 - Preprocessors/CompilersLESSSassStylusCompassChris Eppstein20:34 - Basic Features of CSS Preprocessorsnib mix-ins 23:02 - Usefulness27:15 - Mathematics w/ VariablesSusy28:54 - AnimationUsing CSS animations31:12 - Nesting35:40 - Build Processesgrunt.js42:20 - DistinctionPrefixing 47:35 - Tightly Coupled PicksOld Man’s War by John Scalzi (Joe) X-Wing Miniatures Game (Joe) Dave Crowe (Merrick) Utah Software Craftsmanship Group (AJ) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (AJ) SD Card (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) Consumer Electronics Show (Chuck) iOS Development Podcast (Chuck) Grid Systems in Graphic Design by Josef Muller-Brockmann (Brian) IFTTT (Brian) Book ClubEffective JavaScript by David Herman Transcript MERRICK:  You have more technical problems than any other nerd I know.[Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net.][This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.]CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 42 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames.MERRICK:  He’s out to a phone call, terrible timing.CHUCK:  We also have Merrick Christensen.MERRICK:  That’s me.CHUCK:  AJ O’Neal.AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the snow sphere of Provo, Utah.CHUCK:  And we have a guest, that’s Brian Turley.BRIAN:  That’s right. I’m a designer friend of AJ’s.CHUCK:  We’re talking about CSS today so we brought in a designer to set us all straight.And I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. And like I said, we’re talking about CSS today. One of the things I think that’s interesting about CSS is that it converges with JavaScript. Well, there are a couple of things but one is systems like LESS, that kind of compile, they give you some sane options for dealing with some of the dumb stuff that CSS doesn’t include. Then the other one is, I’ve also wound up fighting designers for selectors in the HTML. And so, I thought we could talk through that a little bit as well.BRIAN:  Hey, Chuck?CHUCK:  Yes?BRIAN:  I think those are two like really good points but I think there’s even more areas we can discuss in terms of how JavaScript and CSS are coupled. Like computed styles from JavaScript and also all the CSS methods from JavaScript. And the fact that your JavaScript sometimes doesn’t work, your UI doesn’t work unless the CSS is set up. I think the two tend to be a lot more coupled than people like to think.CHUCK:  I agree. That’s fair. So, which avenue or which aspect do you want to tackle first? Should we talk about just CSS and where it kind of doesn’t give us what we want?BRIAN:  I would love to complain about CSS. I got some bitterness in that sphere.CHUCK:  I know some people consider it programming but it doesn’t have any of the things that classic programming has like variables and functions or methods or anything like that. And I think that’s where a lot of us get frustrated is that we’re used to being able to reuse things, we’re used to being able to set things up that will define the behavior that we want. And in CSS, you really don’t have that. It’s really just simple markup.JOE:  So, do we consider the CSS languages, like Sass and LESS and all those to be part of CSS because then we talk about actually having those things.CHUCK:  Yes. I don’t know if you can call them CSS.Special Guest: Brian Turley. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

11 Jan 201359min

PanelJamison Dance (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 02:09 - Follow Up to 040 JSJ ConferencesBroad Conferences vs Focused Conferences Utah Open Source/Open West Conference 2013 05:28 - Single Page Application FrameworksjQueryBackbone.jsEmber.jspure.jsplates.jsAngularJS15:10 - Path & Hash RoutingPushstate/Popstatesammy.jsjquery.bbqlocalStorage == cookieshistory.js22:23 - Synchronizing Your DataWebSocket Operational Transformation Lucidchart 24:51 - WebSocketscURLSocket.IO32:44 - App IssuesMemory 38:52 - When do you want a Single Page App?JadeLESSPicksSimple (AJ) Coding for Interviews (Jamison) Empirical Zeal: What does randomness look like? (Jamison) Aeron Chair by Herman Miller (Chuck) Allrecipes.com (Chuck) Book ClubEffective JavaScript by David Herman Transcript AJ:  Yeah, I think I'm 26 still, for another 6 months.CHUCK:  Yeah. You have to count on your toes to figure it out.AJ:  Yeah, twice actually. Because once I'm already bent over, I just keep counting on my toes. I don't start back at my fingers.CHUCK:  [laughs][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.][This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Widge Mo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to WidgeMo.com and check them out.]CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 41 of the JavaScript Jabbers show. I almost said Ruby Rogues. How tired am I?JAMISON:  Don't cheat on us, Chuck.CHUCK:  It's right after Christmas.JAMISON:  We know you have another family but we love you when we have you.CHUCK:  Oh, my gosh! Yeah, we had family here for two days and my wife panics when people are coming over and has to have the house immaculate. And then she kept getting tired or sick or having some other issues. So, I kept forcing her to go to bed and then staying up until 2:00 AM, cleaning the house. So, I’m totally worn out.Anyway, so this is JavaScript Jabber, it's not Ruby Rogues. If you want Ruby Rogues, go to RubyRogues.com and see what we were talking about over there.Last week, we talked about conferences and I know that AJ wanted to say something. I guess we usually do the introductions first. So, let's do that and then let AJ say his piece and then we’ll move onto our topic for today.So, this week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance.JAMISON:  Hi, guys! Merry Belated Christmas.CHUCK:  We have AJ O'Neil.AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo!  Coming at you from the green Christmasphere of Virginia.CHUCK:  Oh, you're in Virginia?AJ:  Yes, I am. Visiting family.CHUCK:  Cool. And I'm Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. I just want to put a quick plug in for my Rails course. If you want to learn Ruby on Rails, go to RailsRampUp.com. It's kind of a guided course and you get a lot of access to me to learn it.So AJ, what was it that you wanted to chime in with, with the conferences that we couldn't get you in last week to say?AJ:  Okay. So, both Merrick and myself have had this same experience. So, we were talking about having the broad conference versus the focused conference, the broad talk or workshop versus the more focused one. And we both have come to the conclusions that having it more focused is better. With the conference, it's fun to go to a broad conference but even in that, like it’s nice to have the focused talks like the ‘Utah Open Source Conference’ which this year is ‘Open West Conference’. It's expanding out and they've got some big surprise. I'm guessing they got some nice speakers. And the call for papers for that opens on January 2nd supposedly. So, that's a really nice conference but it's broad but it’s still fun. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

4 Jan 201359min

Panel Trevor Tingey (twitter blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Rails Ramp Up) Discussion 01:16 - Conferences Attended Visual Studio Live (VS Live) (Joe) Utah Open Source (Joe & Chuck) Utah JS (Joe) MountainWest RubyConf (Trevor & Chuck) JSConf (Trevor) UberConference (Trevor) Web 2.0 (Trevor) RailsConf (Chuck) RubyConf (Chuck) Aloha Ruby Conference (Chuck) New Media Expo (Chuck) 03:24 - Preparing/Planning for Conferences 08:39 - Chatting with Others/Making Contacts at Conferences Hackathons Social Activities 14:36 - Hackathons/Code Retreats/Workshops Global Day of Coderetreat DevTeach 18:46 - Methodology Conferences Agile Roots 22:42 - Industry Conferences vs Local/Regional Conferences Multiple Tracks Networking 28:12 - Making the Most out of Sessions Taking Notes Follow Along in Code Sessions Seating Choice 33:02 - Lightning Talks Speaking Exposure 35:37 - Speaking at Conferences (Tim Joins) Veteran Speakers vs Unique Speakers 41:00 - Submitting Proposals Interesting Title 42:56 - Mistakes People Make Speaking at Conferences Underestimating Time Practice Your Talk Be Excited 45:24 - Preparing Slides Bullet Points Color/Contrast 50:03 - Watch Your Audience Picks The Hobbit (Joe) RiffTrax (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) Blue Microphones: Yeti (Tim) Closure Compiler Service (Chuck) Headline Hacks (Chuck) Once Upon a Time (Trevor) Sublime Text 2 (Trevor) Jack Reacher (Trevor) Foo Fighters (Trevor) Transcript CHUCK:  From the meat lockers of Domo. [This episode today is sponsored by Component One. Makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.] [Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at BlueBox.net.] CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to episode 40 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel, we have Joe Eames. JOE: Howdy! CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and we have a special guest, that’s Trevor Tingey. TREVOR:  Hello. CHUCK:  He’s joining us from Domo. We had some folks on vacation and stuff and we were short a few people. So, Joe invited one of his co-workers. I don’t really have co-workers per se since I’m doing contract stuff most of the time. Anyway... JOE:  Is your cat your co-worker, Chuck? CHUCK:  What was that? JOE:  Is your cat your co-worker? CHUCK:  I don’t have a cat. JOE:  A dog? CHUCK:  Nope, I don’t have a dog either. I’m allergic to cats. But yeah, no cats. Anyway, we’re going to talk this week about making the most of conferences. I’m a little curious, what conferences have you guys been able to attend over the last few years or over your career? JOE:  I was a Microsoft developer before I went fully front end. So I went to several Microsoft development conferences, VS Live was probably my favorite one. Recently, I’ve been to the Utah Open Source conference and the Utah JavaScript conference, really liked those. CHUCK:  Yeah, the local conferences are fun. What about you, Trevor? TREVOR:  I’ve been to a lot of conferences. Recently, I went to the Mountain West Ruby Conference. That was entertaining. I went to the JavaScript, JS Conf and that was the first Node Conf also was kind of dependent on the end of the JS Conf and that was up in Portland. I really liked that one. Like Joe, I used to do some Microsoft stuff. So, I’ve been to Microsoft before and several other ones in between, Uber Conf, Web 2.0 in New York. JOE:  Does Comdex count? I went to Comdex once. [laughs] CHUCK:  Yeah, I didn’t really start going to conferences until I gotten into Ruby. So, most of the conferences I’ve been to were Ruby related, though I did go the Utah Open Source and some of those. Yeah,Special Guest: Trevor Tingey. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

28 Dec 201257min

PanelTim Disney (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code) Discussion 01:23 - Book Club Episode: Effective JavaScript by David HermanEpisode will record on January 10th and air January 18th 01:48 - Sweet.jsMacros: syntactic transformations Build-your-own CoffeeScript Cleans up code 07:03 - Benefits and Disadvantages10:37 - Using MacrosWhere are they needed? Where are they not needed? Why sweet.js Matters13:10 - Pattern Matching15:36 - Domain Specific Languages16:48 - Hygiene18:50 - Class Macro20:28 - Limits21:38 - Language Support25:18 - Nesting28:40 - Cool MacrosExample macros30:13 - Sweet.js: What is coming?Defining Macros Syntax Rules 33:06 - Sweet.js mailing listIRC channel #sweet.js on irc.mozilla.org PicksGoogle+ Hangouts (AJ) The Man from Earth (Jamison) TypeScript (Joe) Red Dawn (Joe) Creationix Innovations (Tim C.) Effective JavaScript by David Herman (Tim D.) Growing a Language by Guy Steele (Tim D.) Downton Abbey (Chuck) Rails Ramp Up (Chuck) Transcript JAMISON:  Oh, my goodness! You can like, put a beard on them and it follows their face!JOE:  Isn’t that awesome?[Crosstalk]JAMISON:  How do I get rid of it? Actually, it was really distracting. I didn’t know you guys would see that.[This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.]CHUCK:  Hey everybody and welcome to Episode 39 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O’Neal. We have AJ O’Neal on mute. We have Jamison Dance.JAMISON:  I am not on mute, I hope.CHUCK:  We have Joe Eames.JOE:  Hi everybody.CHUCK:  We have Tim Caswell.TIM C:  Hello.CHUCK:  We also have a special guest, that’s Tim Disney.TIM D:  Hi.CHUCK:  AJ, did you figure out your mute issues? That would be a no. I’m Charles Max Wood from Devchat.tv. And this week, we’re going to be talking about Sweet.js.Before we get started, there is one thing I want to announce really quickly and that is that we have scheduled a Book Club episode for January 10th and that’s going to be with David Herman who wrote ‘Effective JavaScript’. So it’s a pretty slim book, should be easy to get through. But yeah, if you want to follow along with that discussion, then by all means, join in.Alright. Let’s talk about Sweet.js. Has anyone…AJ:  Can you hear me now?CHUCK:  Yeah.AJ:  Okay, cool.CHUCK:  So, I went and looked at it. I fiddled with it a little bit. I didn’t have enough time to really get into it the way that I wanted to. It looks really cool though. What kind of gave you the idea of doing something like macros for JavaScript, Tim?TIM D:  Well, I guess it’s just something I’ve sort of wanted for JavaScript for awhile. But the main sort of impetus I guess was, I was interning at Mozilla Research this past summer. And Dave Herman who has worked on macros in the past basically said he thought that it was sort of finally possible to do for JavaScript. And so, that was a possible sort of intern project for the summer. And so, that’s what got it started.JAMISON:  So can you back up and talk about what macros are, because I’m sure there are lots of people that don’t know and lots of people that hear macros and think like CP process are macros.TIM D:  Right yeah, exactly. So, C style macros are the sort of painful and sort of limited. The macros that Sweet.js implements are much more in line with sort of scheme style macros. So,Special Guest: Tim Disney. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

21 Dec 201239min

PanelJustin Searls (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code) Discussion 01:33 - Justin SearlsTest Double 02:14 - JasminePivotal Labs 03:42 - Testing JavaScript05:29 - CoffeeScript07:22 - What Jasmine isUnit testing library RSpec DOM agnostic 10:16 - Testing the DOM14:01 - Tragedy of the commonsfactory_girl 18:29 - Testing23:53 - Syntax in Jasmine26:23 - RSpec and Jasmine28:07 - Async support in Jasmine32:18 - Spiesmockito Conditional stubbing jasmine-stealth jasmine-fixture 37:30 - jasmine-givenCucumber 43:19 - Running Jasminejasminerice jasmine-railsjasmine-headless-webkit Testacular testem49:17 - tryjasmine.com PicksRunning MongoDB on AWS (Jamison) The Clean Coder by Robert C. Martin (Joe) Squire.js (Joe and Merrick) Rdio app (Merrick) Square (AJ) Allrecipes.com (AJ) Jenkins CI (Chuck) Apple’s Podcast app (Chuck) lineman (Justin) StarTalk Radio Show with Neil Degrasse Tyson (Justin) To The Moon PC Game (Justin) Transcript JAMISON:  Holy cow!JOE:  That was not annoying.CHUCK:  What’s not annoying?MERRICK:  He is punching a bag of Fritos?JOE:  Yeah.[Laughter]CHUCK:  Well, I was closing it up so they don’t get stale as fast.JOE:  You’re very thorough. Those are going to be the least stale… MERRICK:  Do you have like a Frito resealer or something?[Laughter][Shrill sound]CHUCK:  Okay, sealed.[This episode is sponsored by Component One, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to Wijmo.com and check them out.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at Bluebox.net.]CHUCK:  Hey everybody, and welcome to Episode 38 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have Jamison Dance.JAMISON:  Hi guys!CHUCK:  Joe Eames.JOE:  Howdy?CHUCK:  Merrick Christensen.MERRICK:  What’s up?CHUCK:  AJ O’Neal is trying to join the call. He’s here.AJ:  Yo! Yo! Yo! Coming at you live from the Rental Agreement sphere of Provo, Utah.MERRICK:  He lives!CHUCK:  I’m Charles Max Wood from DevChat.tv. And this week, we have a special guest. That’s Justin Searls.JUSTIN:  Hello.CHUCK:  So, why don’t you tell us a little bit about yourself, Justin?JUSTIN:  Okay. Well, now that I’m on the spot, my name is Justin. I’m a software developer. I live in Columbus, Ohio. About a year ago, me and a guy named Todd Kaufman started a new company called Test Double. Previously, he and I had been doing consulting for a long, long time. And we’re up to eight people now. And we have a good time building software with an emphasis on terrific interaction design which has resulted in us kind of developing a specialty for well-crafted frontend code, predominantly JavaScript. And I imagine that’s probably why I’m here today.CHUCK:  Awesome. Alright. Well, we brought you on to talk about Jasmine. Jasmine was written by, was it Pivotal Labs? JUSTIN:  Yeah, Pivotal Labs guys. A guy names Christian Williams who I think has since moved on to Square, and D.W. Frank who’s still at Pivotal. They wrote the core library and me and a whole bunch of other people in the community have piled on with different runners and add-ons and extensions in the sort of like little ecosystem of the 25 people who write unit tests for JavaScript.CHUCK:  All 25 of you, huh?JUSTIN:  Well, it’s not a lot, right? It’s been a fun journey of being one of the very few people who really, really got excited or chose to get excited about making it easier for folks to write tests in JavaScript or as easy as it would be for whatever servers and language they’d be using.Special Guest: Justin Searls. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

14 Dec 201257min

PanelKris Kowal (twitter github blog) Domenic Denicola (twitter github blog) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 02:41 - PromisesAsynchonous programming 05:09 - Using Promises from top to bottom07:08 - DomainsNodeConf SummerCamp07:55 - Q10:22 - q.nfbind11:15 - Q vs jQueryYou’re Missing the Point of PromisesComing from jQuery15:41 - long-stack-tracesturn chaining JavaScriptStackTraceApi: Overview of the V8 JavaScript stack trace API (error.prepare stack trace)19:36 - Original Promises/A spec and Promises/A+ specwhen.jsPromises Test SuiteUnderscore deferred24:22 - .thenChai as Promised26:58 - Nesting Promisesspread method28:38 - Error Handlingcauseway 32:57 - Benefits of PromisesError Handling Multiple Async at onceHandle things before and after they happen40:29 - task.js41:33 - Languagee programming languageCoffeeScript44:11 - Mocking Promises45:44 - Testing PromisesMocha as Promised PicksCode Triage (Jamison) The Creative Sandbox Guidebook (Joe) Steam (Joe) Pluralsight (Joe) montage (Kris) montagejs / mr (Kris) CascadiaJS 2012 - Domenic Denicola (Domenic) Omnifocus (Chuck) Buckyballs (AJ) Transcript JOE: I can’t imagine your baby face with a beard, Jamison.JAMISON: I never thought I had a baby face.AJ: It was always a man face to me.JOE: Everybody who is 15 years younger than me has a baby face.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This show is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th. They'll be covering Jasmine, Backbone and CoffeeScript. For more information or to register, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody. Welcome to episode 37 of the JavaScript Jabber show. This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal.AJ: Yo, yo, yo, comin' at you live from the executive boardroom suite of Orem, Utah.CHUCK: Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Hey guys!CHUCK: Joe Eames.JOE: Hey there!CHUCK: Merrick ChristensenMERRICK: What's up.CHUCK: I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv and this week we have some guests -- and that is Kris Kowal.KRIS: Hello. Yeah, Kowal.CHUCK: Kowal. OK. And Domenic Denicola. Did I say that right?DOMENIC: Denicola.CHUCK: Denicola.DOMENIC: It’s OK I got Americanized. That's probably the proper Italian pronunciation. Hi guys!CHUCK: I speak proper Italian, so probably.KRIS: Yeah and for what it’s worth, I think that the proper Polish is Kowal or something, but yeah.JAMISON: Kris, are you from the Midwest? You have kind of Minnesota-ish accent.KRIS: No. I'm actually unfortunately from somewhere in the suburbs of Los Angeles, but I grew up indoors and did listen to Prairie Home Companion. So I don’t know. Maybe.[laughter]CHUCK: Awesome. All right. So this week we are going to be talking about… actually there's one thing I need to announce before. If you are listening to this episode, you’ll probably notice a little bit of a difference with our sponsorship message. I actually left off one important piece to one of the sponsorship messages and that is for the Gaslight software training that's going to be in San Francisco, if you wanna sign up, go to training.gaslightsoftware.com and you can sign up there. They’ve been a terrific sponsor and I feel kind of bad that I botched that. But anyway,Special Guests: Domenic Denicola and Kris Kowal. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

7 Dec 201255min

PanelAJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Jamison Dance (twitter github blog) Joe Eames (twitter github blog) Merrick Christensen (twitter github) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:29 - Merrick Christensen is a new regular panel memberCascadiaJS 2012 JavaScript Modules: AMD, Require.js & Other Wins: Merrick Christensen 03:58 - DOM Rendering and ManipulatingBackbone.js Ext.js 06:49 - DifferencesLoad times Ease of use backbone.syphon 09:49 - The Ext.js approach vs the Backbone.js approach15:51 - Templating enginesdust.js handlebars.js mustache.js hogan.js underscore jquery 16:46 - handlebars.js vs mustache.js18:08 - Templating engines (cont’d)Mold.js Ember.js Metamorph.js Knockout.js Pure.js Plates.js 26:34 - Difference between the click handler and the delegate function31:49 - Template engines and string generations33:01 - Writing templates and learning APIs35:03 - Ext.js issues39:32 - Dojo PicksAldo (AJ) On Being A Senior Engineer (Jamison) Joshua James: From the Top of Willamette Mountain (Merrick) sparks.js (Merrick) grunt.js (Merrick) knit-js (Merrick) Functional Programming for the Object-Oriented Programmer by Brian Marick (Chuck) New Media Expo 2013 (Discount code Wood20) (Chuck) Skyfall (Joe) LEGO Lord of the Rings (Joe) Global Day of Coderetreat 2012 (Joe) Transcript JOE: If AJ talks on JavaScript Jabber, does anybody hear it?CHUCK: [laughs]AJ: Not if I don’t have my function key pressed down.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 36 of the JavaScript Jabber Show! This week on our panel, we have AJ O'Neal.AJ: Yo, yo, comin' at you from the cowboy sphere of Orem, Utah.CHUCK: We also have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: I'm coming at you from bathrobe sphere of Orem, Utah. It’s much more comfortable than a cowboy sphere.CHUCK: We have Joe Eames.JOE: Comin’ at you from a cluttered office.CHUCK: And Merrick Christensen.MERRICK: Hey guys!CHUCK: So, Merrick is new. Merrick, do you wanna introduce yourself real quick?MERRICK: Sure. My name is Merrick Christensen. I've been developing JavaScript for a number of years -- big fan of it. You can find me on twitter and GitHub and all that kind of stuff.JOE: Did you just recently speak at any conferences?MERRICK: Yeah actually.[laughter]I just spoke at CascadiaJS on require.js. And actually, what's really cool is they just barely put the videos for that up today and I was so stoked at how high quality. So to the CascadiaJS team, you guys  did an excellent job.JOE: Are the videos free?MERRICK: Oh yeah. All free up on YouTube. And there’s some cool stuff -- there's stuff on like robots -- it was an amazing conference. The organizers just did an amazing job.CHUCK: Sounds like fun. Was that up in the North West somewhere?MERRICK: Yeah it was actually in Seattle.CHUCK: Nice.MERRICK: Yeah it was beautiful.JAMISON: I heard that as one of the after party things, they took everybody up to see the James Bond movie?MERRICK: They did yeah. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

30 Nov 201248min

PanelJamison Dance (twitter github blog) Tim Caswell (twitter github howtonode.org) AJ O’Neal (twitter github blog) Charles Max Wood (twitter github Teach Me To Code Intro to CoffeeScript) Discussion 01:15 - node-webkitSimilar to PhoneGap Chrome native apps Chromium05:31 - Event loops and the browsers06:53 - Example appsLight Table app.js 07:42 - node-webkit vs app.js10:00 - ChromeChrome Apps: JavaScript Desktop Development 17:44 - Security implications25:11 - Testing node-webkit applications27:19 - Getting a web app into a native app31:33 - Creating Your First AppJS App with Custom ChromeChromeless Browser Chromeless replacement PicksHow mismanagement, incompetence and pride killed THQ's Kaos Studios (Jamison) The Insufficiency of Good Design by Sarah Mei (Jamison) app.js (Tim) node-webkit (Tim) Macaroni Grill’s Butternut Asiago Tortellaci (AJ) JCPenney (AJ) Mac OS Stickies (Chuck) Fieldrunners (Chuck) Node Knockout Transcript AJ: Let’s talk about boring stuff. What did you eat for breakfast?TIM: I had donuts.AJ: That sounds nutritious and delicious.[This episode is sponsored by ComponentOne, makers of Wijmo. If you need stunning UI elements or awesome graphs and charts, then go to wijmo.com and check them out.][This episode is sponsored by Gaslight Software. They are putting on a Mastering Backbone training in San Francisco at the Mission Bay Conference Center, December 3rd through 5th of this year. This three day intensive course will forever change the way you develop the front-end of your web applications. For too long, many web developers have approached front-end as drudgery. No more! We’ll help you build the skills to write front-end code you can love every bit as much as your server-side code.][Hosting and bandwidth provided by the Blue Box Group. Check them out at bluebox.net]CHUCK: Hey everybody and welcome to episode 35 of the JavaScript Jabber Show. This week on our panel we have Jamison Dance.JAMISON: Hi guys!CHUCK: Tim Caswell.TIM: Hello!CHUCK: And AJ O’Neal. And I'm Charles Max Wood from devchat.tv. This week, we are going to be talking about ‘Node-webkit’. It seems like Tim is the most familiar with it, so why don’t you jump in and tell us a little bit about it?TIM: All right. Basically the idea is to make desktop apps using Node and then having HTML as your display layer for your widgets. And I start a project doing this several years ago from Topcube, but I failed miserably because I'm not that good of a C engineer. And since then, a few projects have taken up the idea. Node-webkit is one done by Intel and the main engineer there is Roger Wang. So on Roger Wang’s GitHub there is node-webkit. And the other popular one is called ‘app.js’ and I think there is a couple others as well. And some other people have taken over my Topcube project and they use it for some maps app. And all these projects had the basic idea of you have a desktop native app that has Node and node-webkit inside of it.CHUCK: So, is it kind of like PhoneGap or some of these other things for mobile?TIM: Yeah. It’s similar to PhoneGap in that, you get more privileges than a browser would have in a more native experience. Instead of just the PhoneGap extensions, you get all of Node -- you get the full Node environment -- which means you can use all that existing libraries and ecosystem.JAMISON: So how does this compare to the Chrome native apps thing? Because I know that they are more --- already have some like JS APIs that let you touch stuff on the server or things like that. Is this just – it’s not sandbox at all?TIM: Yeah. I mean, this is a native app. It’s not in your browser at all. It bundles its own webkit.JAMISON: Oooh.TIM: It’s more like -- what was that flash thing they had years ago?AJ: ‘Adobe Air’?TIM: Air yeah. It’s like Adobe Air that doesn’t suck. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

16 Nov 201244min