Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]

Marc Lasry - Making Bucks in Credit and Sports - [Invest Like the Best, EP.371]

My guest this week is Marc Lasry. Marc is a pioneer of distressed debt investing and the CEO of Avenue Capital Group, which he co-founded with his sister in 1995. Avenue manages $13 billion today. More recently, Marc and Avenue have become active investors in sport. He owned the Milwaukee Bucks when they won the NBA championship in 2021, and has since made investments in sports as diverse as sailing and bull-riding. In our discussion, we talk about his journey building a big investing firm, the evolution of distressed investing, and the opportunities in sport today. Marc shares some great stories throughout about travelling with President Clinton, winning the NBA championship, and raising his first fund. Please enjoy this great conversation with Marc Lasry. Listen to Founders Podcast For the full show notes, transcript, and links to mentioned content, check out the episode page here. ----- This episode is brought to you by Tegus, the only investment research platform built for fundamental investors. Whether you’re trying to get up to speed on a new market or keep tabs on a portfolio company, Tegus is the end-to-end investment research platform you need. With Tegus, you can quickly understand a company's business model, drivers, benchmarks, and management quality. To monitor an entire market, download our pre-built financial models — or update your own with the latest data using Tegus’ new Excel Add-In. Tegus gives you all of this and more, all bundled into a single software license. Find out why 95% of the top 20 global private equity firms are Tegus customers. Learn more and get your free trial at tegus.com/patrick. ----- Invest Like the Best is a property of Colossus, LLC. For more episodes of Invest Like the Best, visit joincolossus.com/episodes. Past guests include Tobi Lutke, Kevin Systrom, Mike Krieger, John Collison, Kat Cole, Marc Andreessen, Matthew Ball, Bill Gurley, Anu Hariharan, Ben Thompson, and many more. Stay up to date on all our podcasts by signing up to Colossus Weekly, our quick dive every Sunday highlighting the top business and investing concepts from our podcasts and the best of what we read that week. Sign up here. Follow us on Twitter: @patrick_oshag | @JoinColossus Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant (https://thepodcastconsultant.com). Show Notes: (00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like The Best (00:03:40) Marc Lasry's Early Confidence and Competence (00:06:03) Distressed Credit Evolution and the Allure of Sports Investing (00:08:15) The Milwaukee Bucks: A Championship and Investment Success Story (00:14:54) Exploring New Frontiers: Bull Riding and Women's NCA (00:18:33) Venturing into Sailing with Larry Ellison's League (00:22:27) The Economics of Sports Team Ownership (00:25:19) The Vast Universe of Sports-Related Investment Opportunities (00:29:36) The Evolution of Distressed Investing (00:34:05 The Common Thread Through Marc’s Business Endeavors (00:40:24) Marc’s Most Memorable Investment (Not Including The Bucks) (00:43:40) The Dynamics of Working with Family in Business (00:45:32) Finding Happiness and Perspective Amid Financial Success (00:51:03) Diving into the World of NBA Owners (00:55:19) Exploring New Ventures: Sports, Real Estate, and Beyond (00:59:03) The Art of Deal-Making and Navigating Risks (01:06:10) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Ever Done for Marc

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Hash Power – Ep. 3 - Funding, Forking, and a Creative Future

Hash Power – Ep. 3 - Funding, Forking, and a Creative Future

In episodes one and two of Hash Power, we explored blockchain technology and cryptocurrency investing. In this episode, we discuss the current and potential future states of the crypto world. We cover new forms of cooperation, regulation, security and storage, and why blockchains allow systems to evolve at such a rapid pace.  Be sure to listen until the end, where we close with some advice about conducting ourselves in a new world where creativity reigns and repetitive jobs disappear—a trend that may only accelerate thanks to blockchain technology and cryptocurrencies. Hash Power is presented by Fidelity Investments   For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/hashpower For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag    Show Notes 0:05 – Intro to episode 3 and what to expect  4:00 - Olaf Carlson-Wee, founder of Polychain, on how the funding and investing in cryptocurrencies could easily get out of hand  5:00 – How people are creating holding companies to fund cryptocurrencies protocols  6:45 – Decentralized Autonomous Organization (DAO) and how they will replace the aforementioned holding companies  8:32 – Could fully decentralized organizations replace other more traditional organizational structures, even outside of crypto currency  9:59 – How can DAO’s impact everyday lives  12:39 – Why your skills and accomplishments will become more important than who you are or where you are from             15:38 – Ready Player One: A Novel  16:09 - Naval Ravikant, CEO of Angellist, on the way humans cooperate and build new entities  17:51 – When people will demand oversight and regulation over crypto currency  20:42 - Peter Van Valkenburg, Director of Research at Coincenter on the current state of regulation  26:06 - Jameson Lopp on security needed to protect your cryptocurrency             26:22 - Glacierprotocol.org  27:51 - Ari Paul, co-founder of Blocktower, on how nail polish is used to protect their crypto wallet  30:03 – Juan Benet explains the Filecoin Protocol  35:52 - Muneeb Ali, co-founder of Blockstack, on how his team is plans to provide basic tools that will allow the broader developer community to build apps that the cryptocurrency population will use.  38:01 - Comparing blockstack to the analogy of creating a city  40:17 – How the blockstack token fits into everything  43:15 – Fred Ehrsam, co-founder of Coinbase, on forking in blockchains  47:52 – Naval Ravikant on how the idea of work will change in the future, and how that change helped to produce the idea of a blockchain in the first place.  49:31 – Why curiosity should govern what you do in life 53:22 - Naval’s framework for making money   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

10 Okt 20171h

Hash Power – Ep. 2 - Investing in Cryptocurrencies 

Hash Power – Ep. 2 - Investing in Cryptocurrencies 

In episode 1 of Hash Power, we explored blockchains as a technology—how they work, why tokens (also known as cryptocurrencies) are an integral part of any blockchain, and how these new networks might change the world. In episode two, we spend time with the leading investors in the field. Like any frenzied asset class, there are countless cryptocurrency hedge funds popping up everywhere. But founders from three of the original firms—Polychain, Metastable, and Blocktower Capital—are our primary guides this week. As I speak, the total market cap of cryptocurrencies is $136B. There are hundreds of tokens currently available, but bitcoin and Ethereum represent 75% of the total market cap. $136B sounds like a big number, but its tiny relative to any other asset class—and I use that term with hesitation. To put it in perspective, that’s exactly the same size as the market cap of IBM. But IBM had more than $10B of earnings in 2016. Tokens have none. As you will hear, valuing tokens is a very hard exercise. In such a nascent world, we are seeing investing strategies take hold. Olaf Carlson-Wee, Josh Seims, and Ari Paul walk us through different takes on cryptocurrency investing, be it early stage, long term buy and hold, or more hedge fund style strategies. Hash Power is presented by Fidelity Investments For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/hashpower For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Links Referenced Fat Protocols (Joel Monegro)   Show Notes 0:05 – Recap of part 1 and introduction to part 2 of Hash Power 2:58 – Ari Paul, CIO of Blocktower explains how he got involved in cryptocurrencies 5:23 – Why do we need bitcoin 7:23 – Polychain Capital founder Olaf Carlson-Wee on why the value of tokens accrue 9:23 – How main stream money is getting into this space 12:26- Useful comparisons when talking about ICOs when compared to IPOs 15:01 - Naval Ravikant, CEO of Angellist, is asked to explain the protocols of cryptocurrencies to platform businesses like Uber or Airbnb 17:43 – Naval’s interest in investing in cryptocurrencies 23:07 - Olaf Carlson Wee on the lifecycle of a token 24:02 – SAFT note, Simple Agreement for Future Tokens 25:31 – What is the earliest stage that edge is most present for investors in cryptocurrency protocols 28:12 – How do you mitigate the volatility that is present in blockchain 31:18 - Jeremiah Lowin, a risk and statistics expert, who runs risk management for a large private family office, talks about why he no longer owns cryptocurrencies  34:19 - Jordan Cooper, a venture capital investor, is optimistic about blockchains in general, but thinks there may be some overvaluations in current currencies 37:02 – How Jordan would value a single cryptocurrency 42:10 – Fat Protocols (Joel Monegro) 43:52 - Josh Seims, of Metastable, the value investor in blockchain? 51:15 - Ari Paul on the equivalent of listed stocks in the crypto currency world 52:33 – Understanding the concept of a coin in blockchain and how people are getting access to them 55:07 – The fairground analogy to understand cryptocurrencies 57:57 – What lessons from traditional markets can you apply to investing in cryptocurrencies 1:06:51 – Ari is asked to discuss some of the alternative cryptocurrencies outside of Bitcoin and Ethereum. He starts with Ripple 1:10:27 – What would help firms or traders create edge in investing in cryptocurrencies   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

3 Okt 20171h 17min

Hash Power – Ep. 1 - Understanding Blockchains

Hash Power – Ep. 1 - Understanding Blockchains

Welcome to the first episode of Hash Power, an audio documentary that explores the world of blockchain and cryptocurrencies with leaders in the field like Naval Ravikant, Olaf Carlson-Wee, Fred Ehrsam, & Ari Paul. Hash Power is meant to be an introduction, but really, it is an invitation to explore this emerging world on your own.  In the coming weeks, we will cover the technology, the power of decentralization, bitcoin, Ethereum, ICOs, cryptography and hashing. We will spend time with the leading active hedge fund managers in the field, and with outside investors who are both optimistic and skeptical. Episode one covers the big picture, and answers the question: what is blockchain and why might it significantly affect our world? If you enjoy what follows, you’ll still be very early in understanding this field. Most don’t. So help me spread it like wildfire, because the more people that understand blockchain, the better its impact might become. Please enjoy episode one, and stay tuned next week for episode 2, which explores investing in cryptocurrencies. Hash Power is presented by Fidelity Investments   For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/hashpower For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Books Referenced The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information Age Nostalgia for the Absolute   Links Referenced Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System Reddit User jav_rddt SHA-256 Calculator The BitCoin Model for Crowdfunding Fat Protocols #cryptotwitter   Show Notes CHAPTER 1 – Understanding the Concept of Blockchain (3:25) 4:30 – Jeremiah Lowin explains how blockchain is like a database 5:14 – Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System 5:46 – Owning a digital asset 7:14 – Naval Ravikant, CEO of Angelist on how blockchains can help to create personal networks and organize humans 13:33 – New coins popping up around data storage and utility needs like solar panels 14:57 – Permission vs permissionless networks 18:13 – Keeping track of scarcity and the introduction of tokens 18:51 – The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information Age 21:55 – The role of blockchains in the informational age and the rise of more individual sovereignty 23:29 - Fred Ehrsam, co-founder of Coinbase, on the increasing shift to digital worlds led by incentive structures   CHAPTER 2 – Blockchain Technology (27:48) 29:09 - Reddit User jav_rddt 30:43 - SHA-256 Calculator 31:53 - Charlie Noyes, Pantera Capital, explains how SHA-256 was developed and what make its so special 35:48 – How miners create new blocks and the incentives to do so 46:54 – Ethereum, the “spiritual successor” to bitcoin 48:36 – How the Ether network is an ecosystem in which other tokens can sit 50:51 - Naval Ravikant on alternative coins or tokens 50:50 - The BitCoin Model for Crowdfunding 52:35 – Fat Protocols 53:22 – Blockchain as an experiment in distributed government 54:47 – How cryptocurrency is more than just technology, it’s a movement 54:50 – Nostalgia for the Absolute 57:27 - #cryptotwitter 1:00:58 - Peter Jubber, of Fidelity, on how huge institutions, like theirs, are getting into the cryptocurrency game 1:05:21- Olaf Carlson-Wee, first employee at Coinbase and the founder of Polychain, on the early excitement for cryptocurrency 1:06:56– Closing thoughts from Patrick Looking to work in this space - hashpowerdeveloper@gmail.com   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

26 Sep 20171h 11min

David Tisch - Tech Investing Outside of Silicon Valley - [Invest Like the Best, EP.55]

David Tisch - Tech Investing Outside of Silicon Valley - [Invest Like the Best, EP.55]

My guest this week is David Tisch, who was instrumental in building and fostering venture capital investing in New York City. If you liked my conversation with Jerry Neumann--who, incidentally, introduced me to David--you are going to love this one.  David was a co-founder at tech stars, New York's answer to Silicon Valley’s famous tech incubator Y Combinator. He now runs the Box Group, a prominent seed stage venture capital firm, which has looked at thousands of startups and invested in more than 200.  We explore tech investing outside of Silicon Valley, the tech accelerator model, the evolution of early stage investing, and why the best companies may start coming out of non-traditional venture hubs.  David does a great job of explaining how things have changed for technology startups and why certain strategies--especially those for acquiring customers--won't work nearly as well in the future.  I learned a lot during this hour, and I think you will too. Please enjoy.    For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/tisch For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Show Notes 2:16 – (First question) – Looking at David’s motivation and role in building up the venture capital tech investment scene in New York 6:14 – What David did to further the mission of fostering tech startups in New York, namely his work with TechStars 10:11 – What is Y Combinator and how does that differ from Tech Stars 13:02 – What is the procedure for getting into a startup incubator   17:08 – Most memorable applications 19:12 – What is the boot camp/incubator experience like 20:34 – What should future incubators be focused on to help develop the right ideas 23:46 – What aspects of the business should a start up be focused on in the beginning 26:46 – What got David interested in investing 28:47 – The challenges of launching new tech today and the colonization of identity 32:04 – Exploring David’s investing strategy 35:45 – Finding the consumer facing companies that can scale and provide a return for venture capitalists 38:03 – The problem of scaling up for start ups 39:20 – What business models does David prefer when making venture investments 40:53 – What’s important to look at when investing in other sectors, starting with Fintech 44:41 – Where does David think we are in the venture capital cycle 49:37 – How much does the exit strategy play into the initial seed investment 50:18 – David’s thinking on the portfolio of companies when picking an investment 52:48 – David’s biggest sin of omission 53:56 – Common personality traits among potential founders 55:24 – Is storytelling relevant for startups focused on the enterprise side of the business 56:07 – David’s story to convince founders to work with him 57:51 – biggest mistakes that David has seen 1:01:47 – What does it mean for our health that are time has become completely consumed by technology 1:03:58 – What trend has David most excited looking forward 1:06:44 – Kindest thing anyone has done for David   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

19 Sep 20171h 10min

David Gardner - Finding Companies That Break the Rules - [Invest Like the Best, EP.54]

David Gardner - Finding Companies That Break the Rules - [Invest Like the Best, EP.54]

The investment strategy discussed in this week's episode is diametrically opposed to my own value tendencies, but it still one that has done exceptionally well.   My guest is David Gardner, co-founder of the Motley Fool. He is unique in that he is both a pure investor--a true stock junkie--and an entrepreneur. His energy is remarkable. His positive vibes are something to behold. You'll hear it over audio, but it's ever more palpable in person.  Our conversation is about finding companies which are breaking rules in the right way and reshaping industries. David's goal is to find these companies early in and hold them forever.  If you love investing, you are going to love this regardless of your prior beliefs. Please enjoy my conversation with David Gardner on rule breakers. For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/gardner For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Books Referenced The Innovator's Dilemma: When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail (Management of Innovation and Change) The New Penguin Dictionary of Modern Quotations Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game The Motley Fool Investment Guide: How The Fool Beats Wall Street's Wise Men And How You Can Too The Wisdom of Crowds The Motley Fools Rule Breakers Rule Makers : The Foolish Guide To Picking Stocks   Links Referenced Totally Absorbed FANG stocks Henry Cloud (author) “I had a lover’s quarrel with the world” by Robert Frost As You Like it (Shakespeare) Invest Like the Best episod with Morgan Housel Don't Be a Dip: The 1 Thing You Need to Know About Buying on Dips Board Game Agricola Boardgamegeek.com   Show Notes 2:03 – (First question) – Among the experiments that David has run in his podcast, which one has he enjoyed the most 3:42 – A deep dive into the rule breaker mentality that David uses 4:39 -  The Innovator's Dilemma: When New Technologies Cause Great Firms to Fail (Management of Innovation and Change) 7:22 – What helps you to not sell a rule breaker amid big drawdowns. 7:33 – Totally Absorbed 8:32 – FANG stocks 12:25 – List of criteria in picking rule breaker stocks…starting with top dogs and first movers 19:34 – Second criteria…visionary leadership and the traits David looks for in a leader 22:02 – Henry Cloud (author) 22:58 – “I had a lover’s quarrel with the world” by Robert Frost 26:16 – Third criteria – competitive advantage and moats 32:47 – The New Penguin Dictionary of Modern Quotations 32:49 – As You Like it (Shakespeare) 40:36 – Moneyball: The Art of Winning an Unfair Game 41:31 – The Motley Fool Investment Guide: How The Fool Beats Wall Street's Wise Men And How You Can Too 42:43 – Invest Like the Best episod with Morgan Housel 42:45 – The Wisdom of Crowds 43:33 – Back to criteria, the fourth one, price momentum 45:47 – Don't Be a Dip: The 1 Thing You Need to Know About Buying on Dips 50:03 – Last criteria, something being overvalued and weigh that against the idea of whether a product or service is important based on whether people would miss it 52:10 – The Motley Fools Rule Breakers Rule Makers : The Foolish Guide To Picking Stocks 1:01:21 – Looking at David’s process for finding a stock and analyzing it 1:07:38 – The importance of taking these criteria in concert and how you can see the power of overvaluation 1:10:39 - Board Game Agricola 1:10:54 – Boardgamegeek.com 1:14:38 – Kindest thing anyone has done for David   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

12 Sep 20171h 18min

Meb Faber - Factors, Dividends, and Angel Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.53]

Meb Faber - Factors, Dividends, and Angel Investing - [Invest Like the Best, EP.53]

My guest this week is Meb Faber, who started a podcast similar to this one right before mine and was a big reason I was open to the idea in the first place. Meb is a quantitative researcher whose firm Cambria has been behind many interesting investment strategies that break the Wall Street mold. We talk investing factors, dividends, angel investing, podcasts and more. This was a fun catch up with a close friend in the industry who has been in a leader in using data to explore the best active strategies in a variety of asset classes. Please enjoy our conversation, which begins with a factor draft.   For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/meb For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Books Referenced Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation: The Definitive Guide to the Evolutionary Biology of Sex   Links Referenced Update on the Valuation Metric Horserace: 2011-2015 Jason Calacanis on Meb Faber Show Brent BeShore episode of Invest Like the Best Team Ritholtz episode of Invest Like the Best   Show Notes 1:55 – (First question) – Drafting quant factors             4:10 – Update on the Valuation Metric Horserace: 2011-2015 10:25 – Most interesting thing Meb’s learned over the past year                    14:05 – Jason Calacanis on Meb Faber Show             14:49 – Brent BeShore episode of Invest Like the Best 16:10 – What is Meb’s process for investing in private companies 18:35 – What part of the fintech landscape would Meb be most excited about 26:50 – What has been working well on the business front for Meb 30:34 – Looking at investor behavior and changing fee structures 35:54 – What has Meb enjoyed most about doing a podcast             36:26 – Team Ritholtz episode of Invest Like the Best 40:55 – A list of guests that meb would like to have on             41:27 – Dr. Tatiana's Sex Advice to All Creation: The Definitive Guide to the Evolutionary Biology of Sex 43:19 – If Meb couldn’t work in this business, what would he do 45:02 – Same question for Patrick 47:28 – Kindest thing anyone has done for Meb    Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

7 Sep 201753min

Team Ritholtz - The Wu Tang Clan of Finance - [Invest Like the Best, EP.52]

Team Ritholtz - The Wu Tang Clan of Finance - [Invest Like the Best, EP.52]

My guests this week don't need to be introduced. In celebration of the one year anniversary of invest like the best, I asked Josh Brown, Mike Batnick, and Barry Ritholtz to join me for a hour, during which I spent more time laughing than asking questions. I chose this team because they are the pioneers of mold breaking honesty and personality in our industry. They all figured out that just being themselves yields incredible results. This is a strategy that everyone should try, but very few do. Honesty and transparency require vulnerability, which is hard for most of us. I still struggle with it. But the evidence is in. The Ritholtz team has grown as fast as almost any RIA. Listen to this and tell me you wouldn't want to spend your career working with people this friendly, funny and open. Hell, I want to give them some money just so I have an excuse to drop by more often.  Thanks to everyone who has listened in the past year. We are past 1.25mm listens, and growing fast. You own this thing as much as I do, because the size helps me penetrate deeper and get the best people, which begets more listeners. This podcast is one hell of a discovery machine, and the first year was our warm up. We have a ton of new angles, formats, and events coming in year two. Stay tuned. But first, time to laugh in celebration of year one. Please enjoy my conversation with team Ritholtz For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/ritholtz For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Links Referenced Barry @ritholtz on twitter a16z Podcast Scott Galloway and Aswath Damodaran on Bitcoin vs Gold Latest 'These Are the Goods' post   Show Notes 2:35 – (First question) – What stock best represents you  5:09 – How was this team assembled at Ritholtz  8:50 – Why larger asset management firms are slow to pivot on new technology  10:00 – The humor of Barry @ritholtz on twitter  11:48 – What technology channels are working best 13:08 – What would happen in a Ritholtz stock picking contest 15:19 – How do you keep investors from wanting to move money into or out of buzzworthy trades 20:23 – Pricing out the news and the value premium 23:41 – Why people want complexity and activity in their portfolios 29:51 – People always want to be a part of the next frontier, example bitcoin             31:08 – a16z Podcast 33:13 – Exploring research in action and living the investments 39:35 – Biggest argument against bitcoin could be the underlying utility and what will make it successful 45:13 – The Hindenburg Omen             46:34 - Scott Galloway and Aswath Damodaran on Bitcoin vs Gold 47:38 – How the relationship with clients has evolved 49:50 – Mike’s new book project that he is working on 51:41 – Why the Mark Twain chapter is the most interesting in his book thus far 53:32 – How a business should balance sales and marketing 58:09 – Who would they draft to the Ritholtz team             58:22 – Latest These Are the Goods post 1:05:18 – Kindest thing anyone has done   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

29 Aug 20171h 10min

Pat Dorsey - Buying Companies With Economic Moats - [Invest Like the Best, EP.51]

Pat Dorsey - Buying Companies With Economic Moats - [Invest Like the Best, EP.51]

My guest this week is Pat Dorsey, who was the longtime director of equity research at Morningstar, where he specialized in economic moats: sources of sustained competitive advantage that allow a few companies to deliver huge returns over time. Several years ago he left Morningstar to form his own asset management firm, Dorsey asset management, and build a portfolio of companies with wide moats like those he studied at Morningstar. And while moats are critical, equally important is how companies allocate the capital generated--or made possible--by the existence of the moat.   A special thank you to Brian Bares who introduced me to Pat, and to Will Thorndike--an earlier guest on the show. In the vast majority of conversations you hear on this show, I'm meeting the guest for the first time. I mention this to encourage you to connect me with anyone whose story or way of looking at the world might resonate. Always feel free to contact me with ideas.   Pat and I begin our discussion with the key differences between the sell side and the buy side, and then discuss all aspects of moats and capital allocation.    For comprehensive show notes on this episode go to http://investorfieldguide.com/dorsey For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast. To get involved with Project Frontier, head to InvestorFieldGuide.com/frontier. Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub. Follow Patrick on Twitter at @patrick_oshag   Show Notes 2:23 – (First question) – Transition from the sell side to the buy side and the biggest surprise  3:40 – What is a moat  5:16 – What part of the stock market universe has a moat  6:57 – Pat’s framework for identifying moat, starting with intangibles  8:32 – The power of brands  9:44 – what chance does an upstart have to come in and usurp a well-established brand    12:24 – Switching costs as part of the framework for identifying a moat  14:55 – The third component of identifying a moat, network effects, and what businesses should do to effectively build one  17:29 – Last component, cost advantages/economies of scale  19:29 – How do you analyze these four components into an investing framework that can be built into an actual strategy  21:13 – How does Pat think about this from a mis-pricing standpoint  23:37  – How does Pat incorporate current price of a company in consideration for future returns when pricing a moat  25:39 – How should a company with a moat operate to protect that characteristic, especially when it comes to their capital allocation  26:51 – Which characteristic of a moat does Pat find most intriguing  30:35 – What makes for good and smart capital allocation  35:58 – What is Pat’s process for identifying the best investment opportunities  38:38 – What are good economics when looking at a company  41:03 – If Pat could take any business, but have to swap leadership, what would he choose.  44:13 – Back to his process of finding investment opportunities  46:05 – Kindest thing anyone has ever done for Pat   Learn More For more episodes go to InvestorFieldGuide.com/podcast.  Sign up for the book club, where you’ll get a full investor curriculum and then 3-4 suggestions every month at InvestorFieldGuide.com/bookclub Follow Patrick on twitter at @patrick_oshag

22 Aug 201751min

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