In conversation with Sam Altman

In conversation with Sam Altman

(0:00) Welcoming Sam Altman to the show!

(2:28) What's next for OpenAI: GPT-5, open-source, reasoning, what an AI-powered iPhone competitor could look like, and more

(21:56) How advanced agents will change the way we interface with apps

(33:01) Fair use, creator rights, why OpenAI has stayed away from the music industry

(42:02) AI regulation, UBI in a post-AI world

(52:23) Sam breaks down how he was fired and re-hired, why he has no equity, dealmaking on behalf of OpenAI, and how he organizes the company

(1:05:33) Post-interview recap

(1:10:38) All-In Summit announcements, college protests

(1:19:06) Signs of innovation dying at Apple: iPad ad, Buffett sells 100M+ shares, what's next?

(1:29:41) Google unveils AlphaFold 3.0

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Referenced in the show:

https://twitter.com/EconomyApp/status/1622029832099082241

https://sacra.com/c/openai

https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1787864325258162239

https://openai.com/index/introducing-the-model-spec

https://twitter.com/SabriSun_Miller/status/1788298123434938738

https://www.archives.gov/founding-docs/bill-of-rights-transcript

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1788312545754825091

https://www.inc.com/bill-murphy-jr/warren-buffett-just-sold-more-than-100-million-shares-of-apple-reason-why-is-eye-opening.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snbTCWL6rxo

https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20240506PD216/apple-ev-startup-genai.html

https://www.theonion.com/fuck-everything-were-doing-five-blades-1819584036

https://blog.google/technology/ai/google-deepmind-isomorphic-alphafold-3-ai-model

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AI Bubble Pops, Zuck Freezes Hiring, Newsom’s 2028 Surge, Russia/Ukraine Endgame

AI Bubble Pops, Zuck Freezes Hiring, Newsom’s 2028 Surge, Russia/Ukraine Endgame

(0:00) Bestie intros (1:59) What's new with the All-In Summit (9:02) AI Mania hits the brakes: sign of a bubble or a healthy correction? (30:49) Meta's AI hiring freeze: are the AI talent wars slowing down? (39:09) Gavin Newsom is the early favorite to be the 2028 Democratic nominee (54:03) Russia/Ukraine: Trump's two summits, what endgame to expect? Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/autismcapital/status/1958566758719398351 https://fortune.com/2025/08/18/mit-report-95-percent-generative-ai-pilots-at-companies-failing-cfo https://www.cnbc.com/2025/08/18/openai-sam-altman-warns-ai-market-is-in-a-bubble.html https://www.theverge.com/command-line-newsletter/759897/sam-altman-chatgpt-openai-social-media-google-chrome-interview https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/19/technology/mark-zuckerberg-meta-ai.html https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/meta-ai-hiring-freeze-fda6b3c4 https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/19/meta-tried-to-buy-safe-superintelligence-hired-ceo-daniel-gross.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/technology/meta-scale-ai.html https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/18/sam-altman-says-meta-tried-to-poach-openai-staff-with-100-million-bonuses-mark-zuckerberg.html https://polymarket.com/event/democratic-presidential-nominee-2028 https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000198-c46f-da96-abff-d66f4c1e0000 https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20250820615513/en/Statement-from-Marcus-Lemonis-Executive-Chairman-of-Bed-Bath-Beyond https://news.gallup.com/poll/693203/ukrainian-support-war-effort-collapses.aspx

22 Aug 1h 11min

Senator Eric Schmitt: Exposing the Biggest Censorship Scandal in US History

Senator Eric Schmitt: Exposing the Biggest Censorship Scandal in US History

(0:00) Sacks and Jason welcome Senator Eric Schmitt (2:34) Biden v. Missouri, uncovering government censorship as Missouri AG (6:06) Section 230 and social media, the legacy of Russiagate, big tech censorship in the age of AI (18:44) Behind the Hunter Biden laptop story and COVID censorship (30:17) The NGO "Leviathan" and how censorship requests were laundered, Hamilton 68 (36:38) Russiagate and the Obama intel report on the 2016 Election (47:15) Russia-Ukraine War, possible peace deal, and US foreign policy Buy The Last Line of Defense: How to Beat the Left in Court: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-last-line-of-defense-eric-schmitt Follow Senator Schmitt: https://x.com/senericschmitt Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

20 Aug 1h

AI Psychosis, America's Broken Social Fabric, Trump Takes Over DC Police, Is VC Broken?

AI Psychosis, America's Broken Social Fabric, Trump Takes Over DC Police, Is VC Broken?

(0:00) Bestie intros! (4:45) AI Psychosis: what it looks like and why it's happening (20:13) Why the social fabric in America is breaking down (35:55) Fixing the incentives that created the student debt crisis (48:52) Trump takes federal control of DC police (1:05:39) Venture Capital: is it broken and what it will look like in the future? Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/urban-survival/202507/the-emerging-problem-of-ai-psychosis https://openai.com/index/how-we%27re-optimizing-chatgpt https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25910392 https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI https://time.com/7307589/ai-psychosis-chatgpt-mental-health https://x.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1953811277463122162 https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/statistics/major-depression https://www.visualcapitalist.com/inflation-chart-tracks-price-changes-us-goods-services https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PtX8BNLn_c https://nypost.com/2021/05/01/teachers-union-collaborated-with-cdc-on-school-reopening-emails https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-threatens-federal-takeover-of-dc-after-attack-on-former-doge-worker https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/08/declaring-a-crime-emergency-in-the-district-of-columbia https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/ https://x.com/greg_price11/status/1955292615420588495 https://www.kvue.com/article/news/local/homeless/austin-homeless-heal-initiative-highway-183-oak-knoll-relocation/269-d09e5261-6b52-42c0-a550-a3dcf16fa6e7 https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2025/06/24/fannie-mae-freddie-mac-privatization/84342221007 https://www.reuters.com/business/openai-eyes-500-billion-valuation-potential-employee-share-sale-source-says-2025-08-06

15 Aug 1h 32min

OpenAI's GPT-5 Flop, AI's Unlimited Market, China's Big Advantage, Rise in Socialism, Housing Crisis

OpenAI's GPT-5 Flop, AI's Unlimited Market, China's Big Advantage, Rise in Socialism, Housing Crisis

(0:00) Bestie intros! Gavin Baker, Ben Shapiro, and Phil Deutch join the show (7:32) GPT-5 underwhelms, benchmark saturation, OpenAI's product excellence (18:14) AI's TAM, ROIC, and energy implications (27:27) China's major advantage and how the US can counter it (43:46) Political parties picking winners, energy subsidy reversal, how the bureaucratic branch was created and how to fix it (52:38) Socialism, OBBB impact on energy, does socialism in the US rely on Mamdani in NYC? (1:10:00) Tariffs update: $125B+ revenue so far, India and Switzerland hit hard, Trump's ad hoc approach (1:27:51) Nvidia chips being smuggled to China (1:31:13) Apple's $700B in buybacks since 2015 and failing AI strategy (1:40:09) Summer reading recommendations Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow Ben: https://x.com/benshapiro Follow Gavin: https://x.com/GavinSBaker Follow Phil: https://x.com/pdeutch Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-08-08/openai-s-gpt-5-met-with-mixed-reviews-confusion-in-first-day https://www.anthropic.com/news/build-ai-in-america https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whE75zEFBpU https://www.census.gov/library/visualizations/time-series/demo/historic.html https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/two-chinese-nationals-arrested-complaint-alleging-they-illegally-shipped-china-sensitive https://www.ft.com/content/6f806f6e-61c1-4b8d-9694-90d7328a7b54

9 Aug 1h 50min

Trump AI Speech & Action Plan, DC Summit Recap, Hot GDP Print, Trade Deals, Altman Warns No Privacy

Trump AI Speech & Action Plan, DC Summit Recap, Hot GDP Print, Trade Deals, Altman Warns No Privacy

(0:00) Bestie intros! (1:44) Recapping "Winning the AI Race" in DC: Trump's speech, best moments, key takeaways (16:39) AI Executive Orders, unbiased AI, spiciest moments (34:32) Copyright, fair use, and patents in the Age of AI (56:37) Sam Altman highlights AI chatbot privacy issues (1:02:48) Hot GDP print, Fed refuses to cut, major US-EU trade deal Join us at the All-In Summit: https://allin.com/summit Summit scholarship application: http://bit.ly/4kyZqFJ Get The Besties All-In Tequila: https://tequila.allin.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect Referenced in the show: https://x.com/chamath/status/1950673622059667764 https://www.newsweek.com/microsoft-layoffs-h1b-visa-applications-2094370 https://www.wsj.com/business/media/amazon-to-pay-new-york-times-at-least-20-million-a-year-in-ai-deal-66db8503 https://x.com/simonw/status/1950592653047062578 https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/A191RL1Q225SBEA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYn8VKW6vXA https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/30/gdp-q2-2025-.html https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/federal-reserve-interest-rate-07-30-25 https://www.weforum.org/stories/2025/07/the-eu-us-trade-deal-explained-eu-competitiveness https://apps.bea.gov/iTable/?reqid=19&step=3&isuri=1&1921=survey&1903=84 https://www.google.com/finance/quote/SPY:NYSEARCA

1 Aug 1h 23min

Winning the AI Race Part 5: President Trump on the AI Action Plan

Winning the AI Race Part 5: President Trump on the AI Action Plan

(0:00) President Trump on the AI Agenda (54:14) Executive Order signing Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

24 Juli 57min

Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

(0:00) Scott Bessent, Treasury Secretary (17:44) Doug Burgum, Secretary of the Interior and Chris Wright, Energy Secretary (35:11) Howard Lutnick, Commerce Secretary Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

23 Juli 49min

Winning the AI Race Part 3: Jensen Huang, Lisa Su, James Litinsky, Chase Lochmiller

Winning the AI Race Part 3: Jensen Huang, Lisa Su, James Litinsky, Chase Lochmiller

(0:00) James Litinsky, MP Materials (13:32) Lisa Su, AMD (29:45) Chase Lochmiller, Crusoe (43:26) Jensen Huang, Nvidia Thanks to our partners for making this happen: NYSE : https://www.nyse.com Visa: https://usa.visa.com Follow the besties: https://x.com/chamath https://x.com/Jason https://x.com/DavidSacks https://x.com/friedberg Follow on X: https://x.com/theallinpod Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theallinpod Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theallinpod Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/allinpod Intro Music Credit: https://rb.gy/tppkzl https://x.com/yung_spielburg Intro Video Credit: https://x.com/TheZachEffect

23 Juli 1h 4min

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