The Camm Family Murders: A Conversation with Investigator Gary Dunn on the Probable Cause Affidavit for the Arrest of David Camm
Murder Sheet23 Jan 2024

The Camm Family Murders: A Conversation with Investigator Gary Dunn on the Probable Cause Affidavit for the Arrest of David Camm

On September 28, 2000, former Indiana State trooper David Camm returned to his Floyd County, Indiana home to find his wife and children murdered. After three trials and thirteen years in prison, he was acquitted. Camm's case remains known as one of the most egregious wrongful convictions in Indiana's recent history. So what did happen to the Camm family? Why did investigators hone in on Camm despite the fact a violent felon's DNA was found at the murder scene? What was the real story of all the blood evidence used to arrest and convict Camm?

Retired Federal Bureau of Investigation agent Gary Dunn was kind enough to share with us a copy of the probable cause affidavit in Camm's case. Dunn investigated Camm's case for the defense, and chronicled his experience in the book Their Bloody Lies and Persecution of David Camm: Part One. It's a great book that delves deeply into the crime. He is working on part two.

In this episode, we will go through the entire PCA with Gary, and he will explain the weaknesses and fabrications in the case.

By Gary's detailed book on the case: Their Bloody Lies and Persecution of David Camm

Also, check out Gary's website on the case, to read the first chapter for free: https://www.theirbloodylies.com/

A report from the News and Tribune on the day of the Camm family murders: https://www.newsandtribune.com/news/local_news/normal-day-ended-in-murder-for-camm-family/article_27335bd2-cdaf-5cfc-bb31-e104409b464d.html

A WAVE report on the 2006 trial: https://www.wave3.com/story/4488420/february-9-2006-day-24-pieces-to-the-puzzle/

A WAVE report on the 2006 conviction: https://www.wave3.com/story/4600249/camm-jurors-say-they-were-swayed-by-medical-evidence/

A News and Tribune report on the case: https://www.newsandtribune.com/news/local_news/judge-drops-conspiracy-charge-against-david-camm/article_30761d6b-85e4-5d1f-86c2-750c089e9b0c.html

A post from Officer.com on the Camm case: https://www.officer.com/home/article/10250471/murder-on-lockhart-road

A WDRB report on Donald Forrester's role in the Camm case: https://www.wdrb.com/news/david-camm-blog-jailhouse-informants/article_23d3b6e8-8a19-5cba-98e3-1aecaa2c410f.html

A report from WAVE on the third and final trial in the Camm case: https://www.wave3.com/story/23652064/camm-trial-109-prosecutors-smack-touch-dna-favorable-to-camm-as-unreliable/

A WAVE report on calls relevant to the Camm case: https://www.wave3.com/story/23394189/camm-trial-827-camm-called-investigator-wifes-employer-before-arrest/

A WDRB report on Janice Renn's testimony: https://www.wdrb.com/news/david-camm-blog-janice-renn-testifies/article_9f6128c6-d70d-5bbe-971e-8b86c87f545c.html

Another book by John Glatt on the case: One Deadly Night: A State Trooper, Triple Homicide, and a Search for Justice

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The Delphi Murders: First Person: Major Pat Cicero: Part Two

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Major Pat Cicero: Part Two

In this episode, we will continue our interview with Major Pat Cicero of the La Porte County Sheriff's Office. He will now speak about his work in the Delphi murders case. Check out the previous episode for part one of this conversation.This episode is part of our First Person interview series. We will seek to interview as many of the individuals with firsthand experience in this case as possible in the coming weeks and months. If you had a direct role in the case and are open to talking to us, email us at murdersheet@gmail.com. This is part of our ongoing efforts to report on the Delphi murders.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

7 Jan 48min

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Major Pat Cicero: Part One

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Major Pat Cicero: Part One

In this episode, we will interview Major Pat Cicero of the LaPorte County Sheriff's Office. He was a compelling witness in the Delphi murders case. Check out the next episode for part two of this conversation.This is an episode in our First Person interview series. We will seek to interview as many of the individuals with firsthand experience in this case as possible in the coming weeks and months. If you had a direct role in the case and are open to talking to us, email us at murdersheet@gmail.com. This is part of our ongoing efforts to report on the Delphi murders.Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

7 Jan 41min

The Cheat Sheet: Skillets and Screwdrivers

The Cheat Sheet: Skillets and Screwdrivers

This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on January 3, 2025.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from Louisiana, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.On this week's episode we used information from:CNN’s coverage of the murders of Archie Harris and Betty Ramcharan and the latest news from outgoing District Attorney Mimi Rocah: https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/31/us/new-york-new-suspect-double-killing/index.htmlNew York Post’s coverage of the murders of Archie Harris and Betty Ramcharan and the latest news from outgoing District Attorney Mimi Rocah: https://nypost.com/2024/12/30/us-news/ny-da-drops-bombshell-about-new-suspects-in-mysterious-case-of-murdered-millionaire-aide-after-30-years-5-trials/We also relied on reporting from the Journal News accessed via Newspapers.MyCentralJersey.com's reporting on Kenneth Saal's failed appeal in the murder case of Carolyn Byington: https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/crime/2023/01/23/south-jersey-man-gets-55-years-in-murder-of-plainsboro-co-worker/69826425007/NJ.com's reporting on Kenneth Saal's failed appeal in the murder case of Carolyn Byington: https://www.nj.com/middlesex/2024/12/lunch-break-killer-denied-appeal-of-55-year-sentence-in-nj-co-workers-murder.htmlWKYC's coverage of the successful of Sydney Powell in the murder of Brenda Powell: https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/local/akron/sydney-powell-appeals-court-reverses-conviction-2020-murder-mother-akron/95-0f69b07e-4869-4d5e-b25a-ecc3bad80c07The Trace's coverage of the arrest of Maurice Byrd in the shooting death of Stephen Strassburg: https://www.thetrace.org/2024/07/shooting-gun-self-defense-pennsylvania/NBC Chicago's coverage of the arrest of Maurice Byrd in the shooting death of Stephen Strassburg: https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/barrington-man-accused-of-killing-lake-county-doctor-claims-self-defense/3624128/PhillyBurbs.com's coverage of the arrest of Maurice Byrd in the shooting death of Stephen Strassburg: https://www.phillyburbs.com/story/news/local/2024/07/13/hatboro-maurice-byrd-stephen-strassburg-razor-reeses-york-road-horsham-murder-self-defense-mongomery/74350477007/Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.We like fancy things, which is a problem because we're the kind of people where we hate spending a lot of money on ourselves. That is why we absolutely love Quince. We think you will too — and you should absolutely check out this wonderful sponsor of ours. Quince is a brand that is all about accessible, everyday luxury. From Mongolian cashmere sweaters to menswear to Italian leather handbags to washable silk shirts and dresses, they’ve got a whole line of products that make life just a little bit more luxurious.But because they cut the middleman out of their manufacturing while maintaining a strong commitment to ethics, they’re able to give you all that for less. Seriously, all Quince items are 50% to 80% less costly than those of their competitors. They only work with premium fabrics and factories that are committed to safe and responsible manufacturing practices. I love my Mongolian cashmere sweaters which start at just $50. I got the black V-Neck Sweater and a dark blue Turtleneck Sweater. I love the way they look and feel. These are right up my alley — they’re high quality, highly functional, and so affordable. Give yourself the luxury you deserve with Quince! Go to Quince.com/msheet for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

3 Jan 59min

Dapper Rogues and Jazz Age Romps: A Conversation with Author Dean Jobb on Jewel Thief Arthur Barry

Dapper Rogues and Jazz Age Romps: A Conversation with Author Dean Jobb on Jewel Thief Arthur Barry

The Murder Sheet sits down with author Dean Jobb to discuss his new book on Arthur Barry, a fascinating Jazz Age jewel thief who charmed the masses with his exploits — and later unwittingly got tangled up in the case of the abduction and murder of Charles Lindbergh Jr. We will also discuss Jobb's work on the Victorian serial killer, Dr. Thomas Neill Cream. Check out Dean’s website here: http://www.deanjobb.com/Support your local bookstore! Get Dean's book here A Gentleman and a Thief: The Daring Jewel Heists of a Jazz Age Rogue: https://bookshop.org/p/books/a-gentleman-and-a-thief-the-daring-jewel-heists-of-a-jazz-age-rogue-dean-jobb/20674930?ean=9781643752839Buy The Case of the Murderous Dr. Cream: The Hunt for a Victorian Era Serial Killer here: https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-case-of-the-murderous-dr-cream-the-hunt-for-a-victorian-era-serial-killer-dean-jobb/17215538?ean=9781643752501Listen to our episode with David Grann here: https://art19.com/shows/murder-sheet/episodes/3a4d8509-d482-468a-bf60-e1a00f775e68Support The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

1 Jan 59min

Questions and Answers to Close Out 2024

Questions and Answers to Close Out 2024

We answer listener questions to wrap up our 2024. Thank you all for listening, and thanks for your support!Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Listen to When I Met You here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/when-i-met-you/id1607383960Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

31 Dec 20241h 31min

The Cheat Sheet: Commutations and Commutes

The Cheat Sheet: Commutations and Commutes

This episode was originally published on The Murder Sheet's main feed on December 27, 2024.The Cheat Sheet is The Murder Sheet's segment breaking down weekly news and updates in some of the murder cases we cover. In this episode, we'll talk about cases from New York, California, and federal death row.On this week's episode we used information from:USA Today's comprehensive list of the federal death row inmates whose sentences were commuted to life by President Joe Biden: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/12/23/federal-death-row-inmates-biden-commuted-list/77168365007/Blake Lively's lawsuit against Justin Baldoni, which gets into allegations about media manipulation: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/12/21/us/complaint-of-blake-lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc-et-al.htmlCNN's report on Sebastian Zapeta-Calil's murder of an unidentified homeless woman: https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/24/us/what-we-know-subway-fire-hnk/index.htmlThe Orange County Register's coverage of John Murray III's conviction in the death of Meghan Wautlet: https://www.ocregister.com/2024/12/23/man-gets-15-years-to-life-for-huntington-beach-motorcycle-crash-that-killed-passenger/Pre-order our book on Delphi here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Shadow-of-the-Bridge/Aine-Cain/9781639369232Or here: https://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Bridge-Murders-American-Heartland/dp/1639369236Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Kick off 2025 right. Try holiday season, give yourself and those you love the gift of fun, creativity, relaxation, or better sleep. Give them the gift of VIIA Hemp. VIIA is the only lifestyle hemp brand out there. That means they craft premium, award-winning THC & THC-free gummies & vapes, topicals, and drops. Everything you could want, and each product is crafted with a specific mood or goal in mind. So whether you want to get rest, get creative, or just have a blast, there’ve got something for you. When you support our sponsors, you’re supporting us — if you’re over 21 treat yourself 15% off AND if you’re new to VIIA - get a free gift of your choice with our exclusive code: MSHEET at VIIAHEMP.COM. V-I-I-A-H-E-M-P.COM.Their products range from 0mg to 100mg of THC. I love their non-THC products! So if you’re not into THC, there’s plenty for you to try to boost your wellness. Our favorite is Zen. We have a hard time falling asleep, and it’s our secret weapon when it comes to catching Zs. It’s CBN and CBD, and so relaxing! These are affordable, excellent hemp products are grown on American farms without harsh pesticides. Plus Murder Sheet listeners get a wonderful deal.If you’re 21+, head to Viiahemp.com and use the code MSHEET to receive 15% off AND if you’re new to VIIA - get a free gift of your choice. After you purchase they ask you where you heard about them. PLEASE support our show and tell them we sent you. This year, enhance your everyday with VIIA.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

27 Dec 20241h 23min

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Lieutenant Jerry Holeman: Part Two

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Lieutenant Jerry Holeman: Part Two

In this episode, we will continue our interview with Indiana State Police Lieutenant Jerry Holeman about the Delphi murders case. Check out the previous episode for part one of this conversation.This episode is part of our First Person interview series. We will seek to interview as many of the individuals with firsthand experience in this case as possible in the coming weeks and months. If you had a direct role in the case and are open to talking to us, email us at murdersheet@gmail.com. This is part of our ongoing efforts to report on the Delphi murders.Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

21 Dec 202444min

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Lieutenant Jerry Holeman: Part One

The Delphi Murders: First Person: Lieutenant Jerry Holeman: Part One

In this episode, we will interview Indiana State Police Lieutenant Jerry Holeman about the Delphi murders case. Check out the next episode for part two of this conversation. This is the first episode in our First Person interview series. We will seek to interview as many of the individuals with firsthand experience in this case as possible in the coming weeks and months. If you had a direct role in the case and are open to talking to us, email us at murdersheet@gmail.com. This is part of our ongoing efforts to report on the Delphi murders. Join our Patreon here! https://www.patreon.com/c/murdersheetSupport The Murder Sheet by buying a t-shirt here: https://www.murdersheetshop.com/Send tips to murdersheet@gmail.com.The Murder Sheet is a production of Mystery Sheet LLC.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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