JSJ 392: The Murky Past and Misty Future of JavaScript with Douglas Crockford

JSJ 392: The Murky Past and Misty Future of JavaScript with Douglas Crockford

Episode SummaryDouglas is a language architect and helped with the development of JavaScript. He started working with JavaScript in 2000. He talks about his journey with the language, including his initial confusion and struggles, which led him to write his book JavaScript: The Good Parts.Douglas’ take on JavaScript is unique because he not only talks about what he likes, but what he doesn’t like. Charles and Douglas discuss some of the bad parts of JavaScript, many of which were mistakes because the language was designed and released in too little time. Other mistakes were copied intentionally from other languages because people are emotionally attached to the way things “have always been done”, even if there is a better way.Doug takes a minimalist approach to programming. They talk about his opinions on pairing back the standard library and bringing in what’s needed. Douglas believes that using every feature of the language in everything you make is going to get you into trouble. Charles and Douglas talk about how to identify what parts are useful and what parts are not.Douglas delves into some of the issues with the ‘this’ variable. He has experimented with getting rid of ‘this’ and found that it made things easier and programs smaller. More pointers on how to do functional programming can be found in his book How JavaScript Works Charles and Douglas talk about how he decided which parts were good and bad. Douglas talks about how automatic semicolon insertion and ++ programming are terrible, and his experiments with getting rid of them. He explains the origin of JS Lint. After all, most of our time is not spent coding, it’s spent debugging and maintaining, so there’s no point in optimizing keystrokes.Douglas talks about his experience on the ECMAScript development committee and developing JavaScript. He believes that the most important features in ES6 were modules and proper tail calls. They discuss whether or not progression or digression is occurring within JavaScript. Douglas disagrees with all the ‘clutter’ that is being added and the prevalent logical fallacy that if more complexity is added in the language then the program will be simpler. Charles asks Douglas about his plans for the future. His current priority is the next language. He talks about the things that JavaScript got right, but does not believe that it should not be the last language. He shares how he thinks that languages should progress. There should be a focus on security, and security should be factored into the language. Douglas is working on an implementation for a new language he calls Misty. He talks about where he sees Misty being implemented. He talks about his Frontend Masters course on functional programming and other projects he’s working on. The show concludes with Douglas talking about the importance of teaching history in programming. Panelists
  • Charles Max Wood
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Is JavaScript on the Backend a Mistake? - JSJ 596

Is JavaScript on the Backend a Mistake? - JSJ 596

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Why Should You Get Into The Web3 World - JSJ 595

Why Should You Get Into The Web3 World - JSJ 595

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22 Aug 20231h 20min

The Evolution of Qwik - JSJ 594

The Evolution of Qwik - JSJ 594

Jack Herrington is a Principal Software Engineer. Misko Hevery is the Chief Technology Officer at Builder.io. They join the show to talk about "Qwik v1.0". Misko takes the lead as he shares its exciting new features. He explains what is the Panda CSS and how it works. Moreover, he dives into some of the "Qwiklabs projects", its benefits, and many more!SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Developer Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksqwikQwiklabsPanda CSSSocialsLinkedIn: Jack HerringtonLinkedIn: Misko HeveryPicksAJ - The Legend of Zelda™Jack - Monkeytype Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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Introducing The B2B SaaS Starter Kit - JSJ 593

Introducing The B2B SaaS Starter Kit - JSJ 593

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The CSS Universe with Austin Gil - JSJ 592

The CSS Universe with Austin Gil - JSJ 592

Austin Gil is a Senior Developer Advocate. He joins the show to talk about CSS-in-JS. He begins by explaining all things CSS, in a way that developers can easily understand it. He discusses the Evolution of CSS, the challenges you may encounter, CSS branches or specificities, and many more!SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksAST ExplorerParticles CSSSocialsAustin GilLinkedIn: Austin GilPicksAustin - $100 linode creditAustin - local meetups to engage with people in your local communityAustin - Panda CSSAustin - Jury DutyDan - Participating in conferences, especially for the "hallway track"Dan - "The Recruit" on Netflix Dan - The Faithful and the Fallen" fantasy book series by John GwynneDan - Ongoing war in UkraineSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

26 Juli 20231h 15min

Progressive Enhancement with Elliott Johnson  - JSJ 591

Progressive Enhancement with Elliott Johnson - JSJ 591

Elliott Johnson is a Multi-stack data software generalist and works in Vercel. He joins the show to talk about "Progressive Enhancement". He begins by explaining Svelte & SvelteKit and how it's different from the other frameworks. He goes into more depth about Progressive Enhancement, and how it works. Moreover, he tackles Progressive form enhancement with SvelteKit and many more!SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Raygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipSocialsLinkedIn: Elliott JohnsonPicksAJ - StarsightElliot - Spider-Man: Across the Spider-VerseSteve - I'm done with Red Hat (Enterprise Linux)Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

18 Juli 20231h 1min

Things Coming Down the Pipe From TC39 - JSJ 590

Things Coming Down the Pipe From TC39 - JSJ 590

Dan and Steve join this week's panelist episode to talk about the TC39. Dan starts off as he explains the stages of adding features to the ECMAScript language specification to be added to the JavaScript language.SponsorsChuck's Resume TemplateDeveloper Book Club Become a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksTC39 processTC39 ECMAScript proposalsUpcoming Proposals for ECMAScript (PART 1) - JSJ 532Stage 3: using keywords for automatic resource disposal (objects with lifetime)(Sync) Iterator Helpers intent to shipSet methodsDecorators (for Aspect Oriented Programming for the separation of cross-cutting concerns, e.g. logging and serialization)ShadowRealmsStage 2: Async Iterator HelpersIterator.rangeStage 1: do expressionsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

13 Juli 20231h 17min

Million.js with Aiden Bai and Tobiloba Adedeji  - JSJ 589

Million.js with Aiden Bai and Tobiloba Adedeji - JSJ 589

Aiden Bai is a Web Performance Engineer and Creator of Million.js. Tobiloba Adedeji is a Software Engineer. They join the show to talk about Million.js. They begin by explaining what it is all about, its purpose, the problem it solves, and many more!SponsorsChuck's Resume Template Raygun - Application Monitoring For Web & Mobile AppsBecome a Top 1% Dev with a Top End Devs MembershipLinksMillion.jsSocialsLinkedIn: Tobiloba AdedejiLinkedIn: Aiden BaiTwitter: toby_solutionsPicksAiden - Top End DevsCharles - Shadow Hunters | Board GameCharles - Legendary: A Marvel Deck Building Game (2012)Charles - GitNation EventsSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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