JSJ 392: The Murky Past and Misty Future of JavaScript with Douglas Crockford

JSJ 392: The Murky Past and Misty Future of JavaScript with Douglas Crockford

Episode SummaryDouglas is a language architect and helped with the development of JavaScript. He started working with JavaScript in 2000. He talks about his journey with the language, including his initial confusion and struggles, which led him to write his book JavaScript: The Good Parts.Douglas’ take on JavaScript is unique because he not only talks about what he likes, but what he doesn’t like. Charles and Douglas discuss some of the bad parts of JavaScript, many of which were mistakes because the language was designed and released in too little time. Other mistakes were copied intentionally from other languages because people are emotionally attached to the way things “have always been done”, even if there is a better way.Doug takes a minimalist approach to programming. They talk about his opinions on pairing back the standard library and bringing in what’s needed. Douglas believes that using every feature of the language in everything you make is going to get you into trouble. Charles and Douglas talk about how to identify what parts are useful and what parts are not.Douglas delves into some of the issues with the ‘this’ variable. He has experimented with getting rid of ‘this’ and found that it made things easier and programs smaller. More pointers on how to do functional programming can be found in his book How JavaScript Works Charles and Douglas talk about how he decided which parts were good and bad. Douglas talks about how automatic semicolon insertion and ++ programming are terrible, and his experiments with getting rid of them. He explains the origin of JS Lint. After all, most of our time is not spent coding, it’s spent debugging and maintaining, so there’s no point in optimizing keystrokes.Douglas talks about his experience on the ECMAScript development committee and developing JavaScript. He believes that the most important features in ES6 were modules and proper tail calls. They discuss whether or not progression or digression is occurring within JavaScript. Douglas disagrees with all the ‘clutter’ that is being added and the prevalent logical fallacy that if more complexity is added in the language then the program will be simpler. Charles asks Douglas about his plans for the future. His current priority is the next language. He talks about the things that JavaScript got right, but does not believe that it should not be the last language. He shares how he thinks that languages should progress. There should be a focus on security, and security should be factored into the language. Douglas is working on an implementation for a new language he calls Misty. He talks about where he sees Misty being implemented. He talks about his Frontend Masters course on functional programming and other projects he’s working on. The show concludes with Douglas talking about the importance of teaching history in programming. Panelists
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React and Beyond: The Importance of Learning DOM APIs - JSJ 659

React and Beyond: The Importance of Learning DOM APIs - JSJ 659

In today's episode, Charles, AJ and Steve are joined by guests Corey Brown for a rich discussion on the importance of understanding foundational concepts in software development. They explore the balance between leveraging high-level frameworks like React and the necessity of grasping the underlying technologies to troubleshoot effectively and build robust applications. They emphasize the value of comprehending core language features to write better software and solve problems efficiently. Corey reflects on the passion within the software development community and the hidden costs of over-relying on third-party dependencies like the infamous "left pad" incident.As the conversation unfolds, they debate whether sticking to frameworks or delving into deeper technologies leads to long-term success. They share practical insights on the benefits of reading source code, continuously learning, and the significance of core platform APIs. Additionally, the episode includes light-hearted "picks" from the panelists, including humorous resources and personal anecdotes. Join them as they dissect these critical perspectives and share valuable advice for both novice and seasoned developers alike. Let's get started!PicksAJ - Grug BrainAJ - Creeds of CraftsmanshipAJ - AJQuery v3.0.3Cory - Palm Paradise #206Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

26 Nov 20241h 23min

New Horizons in Web Development with Danny Moerkerke - JSJ 658

New Horizons in Web Development with Danny Moerkerke - JSJ 658

In today's jam-packed episode, Charles, AJ, and Dan, along with special guest Danny Moerkerke, a seasoned freelance JavaScript web developer from Amsterdam.  They dive deep into the fascinating world of web development, focusing on the capabilities and future of Progressive Web Apps (PWAs), comparing them to native apps, and discussing the technical intricacies involved.AJ shares his latest project on passkeys and the challenges of transitioning clients, while Dan gives us a glimpse into his social media habits and movie recommendations. Danny enlightens us with his experiences at IKEA and his passion for web components, PWAs, and crucial APIs like the Wake Lock and Background Sync.They explore the complex interplay between service workers, caching for offline functionality, and the barriers to widespread PWA adoption, particularly on iOS. Plus, they dive into practical applications of these technologies, from gaming to improving podcast accessibility for offline listening.So, tune in as they unravel the technical hurdles, share insightful demos, and debate the future of web and native app development. It's an episode packed with knowledge, practical advice, and a bit of fun along the way!SocialsLinkedIn: Danny MoerkerkeBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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Structuring Node.js Applications: Event Loop, Metrics, and Efficient Processing Techniques

Structuring Node.js Applications: Event Loop, Metrics, and Efficient Processing Techniques

In this episode, they dive deep into the essential practices and principles for successful Node.js development.  AJ and Dan are joined by special guests Michael Dawson, James Snell, and Matteo Collina. They bring a wealth of expertise and experience to the table, discussing key topics like experimental tech with existing web standards, managing updates with LTS releases, and the fundamental pillars of Node.js, including the critical concept of "not blocking the event loop."They explore the consequences of blocking the event loop, real-world insights into performance issues, and the importance of efficient task handling. They also share their wisdom on utilizing multi-threading, scaling applications, best practices for dependency management, and the significance of regular updates to maintain security and performance.Additionally, they touch on some fascinating side discussions, such as AI's role in coding, the evolution of package management, and the importance of intentional coding practices. There's even a bit of personal insight with recommendations for exciting Netflix series and real-world anecdotes about Node.js conferences and testing frameworks.Join them as they unravel these topics and more, guiding you through advanced Node.js SocialsLinkedIn: James SnellLinkedIn: Michael DawsonLinkedIn: Matteo CollinaLinksThe Nine Node Pillars: 9  Principles for Doing Node.js Right in Enterprise EnvironmentsThe Nine Node Pillars | 9 principles for doing Node.js right in enterprise environments - YouTubePicksDan - Monsters: The Lyle and Erik Menendez StoryDan - The WordPress drama explainedMichael - bee-agent-frameworkJames - NodeConf EUBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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Stimulus and Turbo in Web Development - JSJ 656

Stimulus and Turbo in Web Development - JSJ 656

Dive into the dynamic world of JavaScript frameworks with this week's episode of JavaScript Jabber! Join Charles, AJ, Dan and Steve as they explore Hotwire, Stimulus, and Turbo—tools that are transforming how developers build fast, responsive web applications. They discover the evolution from Turbo Links to Turbo Drive, learn how these technologies enhance page rendering speeds by updating only changed elements, and understand their seamless integration in Rails applications. The discussion also touches on practical implementations using Turbo frames and streams for efficient DOM manipulation. Additionally, they dive into the benefits of partial page updates for improved performance and talk about the insights into integrating Stimulus for fine-grained control over client-side interactions. They also explore the parallels between modern frameworks like React or Angular with traditional approaches.Tune in to uncover how you can leverage these tools to optimize your development workflow!SocialsLinkedIn: Charles WoodPicksAJ - The Fall Guy 4k + Extended CutAJ - Passkeys DemoBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

5 Nov 20241h 26min

Understanding, Confidence, and Humility in Web development - JSJ 655

Understanding, Confidence, and Humility in Web development - JSJ 655

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29 Okt 20241h 19min

Exploring Local-First Applications and Data Synchronization Challenges: Part 1 - JSJ 654

Exploring Local-First Applications and Data Synchronization Challenges: Part 1 - JSJ 654

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22 Okt 20241h 35min

Slaughtering Sacred Cows: Reconsidering Software Dev Truisms - JSJ 653

Slaughtering Sacred Cows: Reconsidering Software Dev Truisms - JSJ 653

Charles and Dan dive deep into the world of programming languages, development practices, and the trade-offs that shape our daily coding lives. Joining them is special guest Tomer Gabel, an experienced backend engineer, and consultant.In this episode, they unpack the productivity benefits and challenges of using Rails, deliberate on the pros and cons of dynamic languages, and explore the fascinating topic of convergent evolution in programming ecosystems. They also discuss TypeScript's value proposition, the intricacies of static typing, and the sometimes controversial principles of "clean code." Get ready for an engaging conversation packed with expert insights, practical advice, and a few surprising takeaways. Let’s get started!SponsorBlue HostSocialsLinkedIn: Tomer GabelBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

15 Okt 20241h 45min

Unlocking Vue and Nuxt Potential: New Tools, Best Practices, and more - JSJ 652

Unlocking Vue and Nuxt Potential: New Tools, Best Practices, and more - JSJ 652

In this episode, AJ and Steve dive deep into the world of Vue.js and API integration with a special guest, Daniel Kelly, a seasoned lead instructor at Vue School. this episode is packed with valuable discussions on using the useFetch Vue component for seamless API requests, navigating the challenges of migrating from Vue 2 to Vue 3, and embracing TypeScript for a more robust development experience.They also explore the impactful updates coming with Nuxt 4 and Vue 3.5, the benefits of Vue.js certifications for career growth, and how tools like Nitro and auto-import features in Nuxt 3 can enhance your development workflow. Plus, enjoy a range of recommendations from books and music to tech innovations and humorous dad jokes.So, whether you're a seasoned Vue developer or just starting, this episode offers something for everyone. Tune in, and  elevate your JavaScript journey!SocialsLinkedin: Daniel KellyPicksDaniel - Fairy TaleDaniel - Believe by Yellowcard Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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