JSJ 392: The Murky Past and Misty Future of JavaScript with Douglas Crockford

JSJ 392: The Murky Past and Misty Future of JavaScript with Douglas Crockford

Episode SummaryDouglas is a language architect and helped with the development of JavaScript. He started working with JavaScript in 2000. He talks about his journey with the language, including his initial confusion and struggles, which led him to write his book JavaScript: The Good Parts.Douglas’ take on JavaScript is unique because he not only talks about what he likes, but what he doesn’t like. Charles and Douglas discuss some of the bad parts of JavaScript, many of which were mistakes because the language was designed and released in too little time. Other mistakes were copied intentionally from other languages because people are emotionally attached to the way things “have always been done”, even if there is a better way.Doug takes a minimalist approach to programming. They talk about his opinions on pairing back the standard library and bringing in what’s needed. Douglas believes that using every feature of the language in everything you make is going to get you into trouble. Charles and Douglas talk about how to identify what parts are useful and what parts are not.Douglas delves into some of the issues with the ‘this’ variable. He has experimented with getting rid of ‘this’ and found that it made things easier and programs smaller. More pointers on how to do functional programming can be found in his book How JavaScript Works Charles and Douglas talk about how he decided which parts were good and bad. Douglas talks about how automatic semicolon insertion and ++ programming are terrible, and his experiments with getting rid of them. He explains the origin of JS Lint. After all, most of our time is not spent coding, it’s spent debugging and maintaining, so there’s no point in optimizing keystrokes.Douglas talks about his experience on the ECMAScript development committee and developing JavaScript. He believes that the most important features in ES6 were modules and proper tail calls. They discuss whether or not progression or digression is occurring within JavaScript. Douglas disagrees with all the ‘clutter’ that is being added and the prevalent logical fallacy that if more complexity is added in the language then the program will be simpler. Charles asks Douglas about his plans for the future. His current priority is the next language. He talks about the things that JavaScript got right, but does not believe that it should not be the last language. He shares how he thinks that languages should progress. There should be a focus on security, and security should be factored into the language. Douglas is working on an implementation for a new language he calls Misty. He talks about where he sees Misty being implemented. He talks about his Frontend Masters course on functional programming and other projects he’s working on. The show concludes with Douglas talking about the importance of teaching history in programming. Panelists
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230 JSJ Node at Capital One with Azat Mardan

230 JSJ Node at Capital One with Azat Mardan

00:51 Jameson is looking for clients who need front and back end code for apps; @Jergason (Contact him via Direct Message)04:40 An explanation of Capital One and its operations6:06 How many Capital One developers are using Node and how it is being implemented10:30 Process of approval for app/website development14:15 How the culture at Capital One affects technology within the company18:25 Using Javascript libraries to manage different currencies19:40 Venmo and its influence on banking22:32 Whether banks are prepared to operate in a cashless society29:44 Using HTML and Javascript for updating projects or creating new ones35:21 Who picks up Javascript easily and why: “It’s more about grit than raw intelligence.”44:00 Upgrading via open source codes45:40 The process for hiring developers51:35 Typescript vs. non-typescriptPICKS:“Nerve” MovieBrave Browser“Stranger Things” on Netflix Angular 2 Class in Ft. Lauderdale, Discount Code: JSJ “Strategy for Healthier Dev” blog postHealth-Ade Beet Kombucha“The Adventure Zone” podcastOn the Cruelty of Really Teaching Computer Science article by E.W. Dijkstra“The Freelancer Show” podcast“48 Days” podcastNode.universityAzat Mardan’s WebsiteAzat Mardan on TwitterCETUSA – Foreign exchange programSpecial Guest: Azat Mardan. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

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229 JSJ Elm with Richard Feldman

229 JSJ Elm with Richard Feldman

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228 JSJ React Native with Nader Dabit and Mike Grabowski

228 JSJ React Native with Nader Dabit and Mike Grabowski

Code-sharing between mobile and web apps with React NativeUsing native code and JavascriptWhat to know about developing with React NativeThe importance of toolingLive and hot-reloadingUpdating your app on the flyPossible difficulties faced by transitioning to React NativeBridging between native API’s and React NativeWriting apps in Swift or React NativeThe future of React NativeHow to start a React Native project Resources:Frontend MastersHired.comRollbarMicrosoft Code PushReact Native Radio Episode 8Tadeu Zagallo’s WebsiteSpecial Guests: Mike Grabowski and Nader Dabit. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

7 Sep 20161h

227 JSJ Fostering Community Through React with Benjamin Dunphy, Berkeley Martinez, and Ian Sinnott

227 JSJ Fostering Community Through React with Benjamin Dunphy, Berkeley Martinez, and Ian Sinnott

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226 JSJ Test Doubles with Justin Searls

226 JSJ Test Doubles with Justin Searls

React Remote Conf and Angular Remote Conf  03:15 - Justin Searls IntroductionTwitterGitHubBlogTest DoubleJavaScript Jabber Episode #038: Jasmine with Justin Searls04:13 - Testingtestdouble.jsteenytestSinon.JS08:44 - MockingGrowing Object-Oriented Software, Guided by Tests by Steve Freeman and Nat PryceJim Weirich14:45 - Starting These Concepts as a Junior DeveloperTest-driven Development17:55 - testdouble.js vs. sinon.jsNIH = Not Invented Here26:39 - Duck Typing, Monkey Patching, Duck Punching32:22 - Node.js NegativityDesign, Resources Martin Fowler’s Refactoring and Patterns BooksDomain-Driven Design: Tackling Complexity in the Heart of Software by Eric Evans42:52 - Community45:08 - The AAA Rule: Arrange, Act, Assert51:19 - Error Messages PicksUnemployment (Jamison)React Rally (Jamison)Julia Evans' Tweet: how to be a wizard programmer  (Jamison)See the good in people (Aimee)Sinon.JS (Joe)How to Stay Motivated: Developing the Qualities of Success by Zig Ziglar (Chuck)The Harry Potter Series (Chuck)RetroPie (Justin)How Elm can Make you a Better JavaScript Programer (Justin)NEJS Conf (Justin)Special Guest: Justin Searls. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

24 Aug 20161h 4min

225 JSJ Functional Programming with John A. De Goes

225 JSJ Functional Programming with John A. De Goes

03:08 - John A. De Goes IntroductionTwitterGitHubBlogSlamData04:07 - PureScriptJavaScript Jabber Episode #189: PureScript with John A. De Goes and Phil Freeman04:58 - “Purely Functional” 09:18 - Weaknesses With Functional ProgrammingObject-oriented ProgrammingProcedural Programming14:36 - Organizing a FP CodebaseJohn A. De Goes: A Modern Architecture for FP17:54 - Beginners and Functional Programming; Getting StartedLearning About the History of Functional ProgrammingHiring Junior Devs to do FP28:20 - The Rise of Functional Programming in JavaScript-land32:08 - Handling Existing Applications36:03 - Complexity Argument41:53 - Weighing Language Tradeoffs; Alt.js  PicksNadia Odunayo: The Guest: A Guide To Code Hospitality @ RailsConf 2016 (Aimee)React Rally (Jamison)Cleanup Algorithm (Jamison)PostgreSQL Exercises (Jamison)iPad Pro (Chuck)Smart Keyboard for iPad Pro (Chuck)Apple Pencil (Chuck)GoodNotes (Chuck)John A. De Goes: Halogen: Past, Present, and Future (John)slamdata (John)Special Guest: John A. De Goes. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

17 Aug 201656min

224 JSJ Cypress.js with Brian Mann

224 JSJ Cypress.js with Brian Mann

Angular Remote Conf and React Remote Conf  03:18 - Brian Mann IntroductionTwitterGitHub03:33 - Cypress.io 04:09 - Selenium 08:56 - Cypress vs Selenium16:54 - Similarities: Cypress and Protractor 18:22 - Mocking API Data20:40 - Getting Started with Cypress and The Migration Process21:54 - Testing30:31 - Handling Data on the Backend34:16 - What’s coming next in Cypress?Special Guest: Brian Mann. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

10 Aug 201645min

223 JSJ WebStorm with Dennis Ushakov

223 JSJ WebStorm with Dennis Ushakov

React Remote Conf and Angular Remote Conf  03:18 - Dennis Ushakov IntroductionTwitterGitHubJetBrainsJetBrains Issue TrackerWebStorm@WebStormIDE  03:54 - Writing an IDE in JavaYouTrackTeamCity  04:50 - Specs05:43 - WebStorm DefinedIntegrated Development Environment (IDE)06:19 - IDEs vs Text Editors08:31 - Building an IDELanguage SupportExternal Tool SupportAbstract Syntax Tree (AST)13:00 - Code Reuse15:07 - Prioritizing Features17:11 - Why is IDE tooling important?“Code is read a lot more than it’s written.”19:57 - RefactoringsThe Dynamic Nature of JavaScriptTypeScript-specific Refactorings23:35 - Next Versions of WebstormEarly Access Program25:07 - Framework Support; Usage Data28:12 - Other Technology and Framework Support31:12 - Working for JetBrains 32:17 - Release Cycles and ProceduresEarly Access Program34:39 - Java Source Code ContributionKotlin PicksJesse Kriss: Human scale technology (Jamison)React Rally (Jamison)Vote (Chuck)Transmit (Chuck)Steam Squad (Dennis)Ergobaby Four Position 360 Baby Carrier (Dennis)Special Guest: Dennis Ushakov. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/javascript-jabber/donationsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacyBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/javascript-jabber--6102064/support.

3 Aug 20161h 18min

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